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Whatever maybe he's just blind.
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On May 25 2019 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 23:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
If iGrok is town here I'm making the call that the mafia team is VE/rayn/Koshi and they trolled me earlier in the game because I happened to nail them Also reads like he knows iGrok is town so now I'm fucking worried about THAT flip.
Ofc he is town but HF wont be lynched before we flip him.
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I think this igrok lynch is at a critical mass to implode before deadline into chaos. Shame really.
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On May 25 2019 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever maybe he's just blind.
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Uh, don't you think WBG and I are MAFIA?
Why are you voting with two mafia reads?
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On May 25 2019 00:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever maybe he's just blind.
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Because I like an iGrok lynch too. Associative reads suck. Let them kill each other.
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And frankly I'm not sure about Bugs. He can be super wrong town here and it's still Artanis. idk. But I like iGrok lynch.
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On May 25 2019 00:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 23:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 24 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:sorry, "scumread" me VE I nailed on you on a lie about scumreading me and #2495 is probably the single scummiest post anyone has made in this entire game. Can you explain it like I'm 5. Why is this post the scummiest in the game? look at VE's in-thread stated scum reads (or try to remember them off the top of your head) and then look at his day 1 votes. Then also look at where his day 1 vote ended. Then come back and explain it to me yourself. Hard pass. Why does this not apply to calix and igrok?
when did I say it does not apply to iGrok? It clearly does, otherwise I 1. wouldn't be voting him, 2. wouldn't have posted several times already corroborating your case and 3. wouldn't try to rebut literally the only surface-level reason stated by anyone (rayn) for townreading iGrok based on his EoD behaviour in #3239
The same logic doesn't apply to Calix because she was defending herself from being lynched.
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"if iGrok is town"
VE:
"this reads as if he knows iGrok is town"
how can you misread a one sentence post that hard
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On May 25 2019 00:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
"if iGrok is town"
VE:
"this reads as if he knows iGrok is town"
how can you misread a one sentence post that hard
I'm reading context. Your lynch of choice is me, so you're setting up lynches if you're mafia.
Otherwise I'm just wrong.
idfc Bugs you're ludicrous.
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On May 25 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 24 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:sorry, "scumread" me VE I nailed on you on a lie about scumreading me and #2495 is probably the single scummiest post anyone has made in this entire game. Can you explain it like I'm 5. Why is this post the scummiest in the game? look at VE's in-thread stated scum reads (or try to remember them off the top of your head) and then look at his day 1 votes. Then also look at where his day 1 vote ended. Then come back and explain it to me yourself. Hard pass. Why does this not apply to calix and igrok? when did I say it does not apply to iGrok? It clearly does, otherwise I 1. wouldn't be voting him, 2. wouldn't have posted several times already corroborating your case and 3. wouldn't try to rebut literally the only surface-level reason stated by anyone (rayn) for townreading iGrok based on his EoD behaviour in #3239The same logic doesn't apply to Calix because she was defending herself from being lynched.
No, she wasn't. She said she decided to town read igrok at deadline because she saw a townie trait in him (when he said he unvoted her to figure out the game).
On May 22 2019 08:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. Holy shit, you bite back. I think I need to sit down for a moment. But in all seriousness, this post actually sounds like a town frustrated at my perceived stubbornness.
On May 22 2019 08:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:45 disformation wrote:
aight. lets go.
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On May 22 2019 09:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it What good post did he make and why didn't you mention this earlier? Also I just want to make it clear that I basically saved your arse for another day by voting for ruxxar. I could've easily just told everyone to fuck off and stay on you. And I don't know whether that was the smartest thing I've ever done. So if you could just do things like telling us your Artanis read without prodding, that would be WONDERFUL. Because I'm the only other person in the thread right now.
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On May 25 2019 00:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 24 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:sorry, "scumread" me VE I nailed on you on a lie about scumreading me and #2495 is probably the single scummiest post anyone has made in this entire game. Can you explain it like I'm 5. Why is this post the scummiest in the game? look at VE's in-thread stated scum reads (or try to remember them off the top of your head) and then look at his day 1 votes. Then also look at where his day 1 vote ended. Then come back and explain it to me yourself. Hard pass. Why does this not apply to calix and igrok? when did I say it does not apply to iGrok? It clearly does, otherwise I 1. wouldn't be voting him, 2. wouldn't have posted several times already corroborating your case and 3. wouldn't try to rebut literally the only surface-level reason stated by anyone (rayn) for townreading iGrok based on his EoD behaviour in #3239The same logic doesn't apply to Calix because she was defending herself from being lynched. No, she wasn't. She said she decided to town read igrok at deadline because she saw a townie trait in him (when he said he unvoted her to figure out the game). Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:39 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. Holy shit, you bite back. I think I need to sit down for a moment. But in all seriousness, this post actually sounds like a town frustrated at my perceived stubbornness. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:46 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:45 disformation wrote:
aight. lets go.
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Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it What good post did he make and why didn't you mention this earlier? Also I just want to make it clear that I basically saved your arse for another day by voting for ruxxar. I could've easily just told everyone to fuck off and stay on you. And I don't know whether that was the smartest thing I've ever done. So if you could just do things like telling us your Artanis read without prodding, that would be WONDERFUL. Because I'm the only other person in the thread right now.
I don't actually know what I'm arguing about here tbh.
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Lack of scumreads has never been an accurate way to read me sorry bubby you're just very very wrong here. You aren't even trusting BC, who you're hinging a lot fo your opinions on, you've got fucking blinders on.
You WANT me to be mafia. And sorry baby, but we don't always get what we want.
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On May 25 2019 00:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:07 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 24 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:sorry, "scumread" me VE I nailed on you on a lie about scumreading me and #2495 is probably the single scummiest post anyone has made in this entire game. Can you explain it like I'm 5. Why is this post the scummiest in the game? look at VE's in-thread stated scum reads (or try to remember them off the top of your head) and then look at his day 1 votes. Then also look at where his day 1 vote ended. Then come back and explain it to me yourself. Hard pass. Why does this not apply to calix and igrok? when did I say it does not apply to iGrok? It clearly does, otherwise I 1. wouldn't be voting him, 2. wouldn't have posted several times already corroborating your case and 3. wouldn't try to rebut literally the only surface-level reason stated by anyone (rayn) for townreading iGrok based on his EoD behaviour in #3239The same logic doesn't apply to Calix because she was defending herself from being lynched. No, she wasn't. She said she decided to town read igrok at deadline because she saw a townie trait in him (when he said he unvoted her to figure out the game). On May 22 2019 08:39 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. Holy shit, you bite back. I think I need to sit down for a moment. But in all seriousness, this post actually sounds like a town frustrated at my perceived stubbornness. On May 22 2019 08:46 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:45 disformation wrote:
aight. lets go.
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Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it What good post did he make and why didn't you mention this earlier? Also I just want to make it clear that I basically saved your arse for another day by voting for ruxxar. I could've easily just told everyone to fuck off and stay on you. And I don't know whether that was the smartest thing I've ever done. So if you could just do things like telling us your Artanis read without prodding, that would be WONDERFUL. Because I'm the only other person in the thread right now. I don't actually know what I'm arguing about here tbh.
I realised this isn't what you were talking about at all :D but still, I don't think that VE post is that bad, it has a smiley face at the end and sounds facetious af
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On May 24 2019 23:56 Holyflare wrote:f5 f5 f5 has igrok posted yet? oh... cya in 12 hours for his next post I guess 
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Like just when I was starting to enjoy this game again.
Whatever, I can disappear and withhold my thoughts too! AS TOWN! BITCH!
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I think it might be BC and he's being super reasonable this game for a change.
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On May 25 2019 00:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 24 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:sorry, "scumread" me VE I nailed on you on a lie about scumreading me and #2495 is probably the single scummiest post anyone has made in this entire game. Can you explain it like I'm 5. Why is this post the scummiest in the game? look at VE's in-thread stated scum reads (or try to remember them off the top of your head) and then look at his day 1 votes. Then also look at where his day 1 vote ended. Then come back and explain it to me yourself. Hard pass. Why does this not apply to calix and igrok? when did I say it does not apply to iGrok? It clearly does, otherwise I 1. wouldn't be voting him, 2. wouldn't have posted several times already corroborating your case and 3. wouldn't try to rebut literally the only surface-level reason stated by anyone (rayn) for townreading iGrok based on his EoD behaviour in #3239The same logic doesn't apply to Calix because she was defending herself from being lynched. No, she wasn't. She said she decided to town read igrok at deadline because she saw a townie trait in him (when he said he unvoted her to figure out the game). Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:39 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. Holy shit, you bite back. I think I need to sit down for a moment. But in all seriousness, this post actually sounds like a town frustrated at my perceived stubbornness. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:46 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 08:45 disformation wrote:
aight. lets go.
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Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it What good post did he make and why didn't you mention this earlier? Also I just want to make it clear that I basically saved your arse for another day by voting for ruxxar. I could've easily just told everyone to fuck off and stay on you. And I don't know whether that was the smartest thing I've ever done. So if you could just do things like telling us your Artanis read without prodding, that would be WONDERFUL. Because I'm the only other person in the thread right now.
if you mean "no, she wasn't taking a consistent hard stance" then sure, I agree. If you mean "no, she wasn't defending herself in a town-consistent way," then I disagree.
Her not taking a harder stance on iGrok on d1 is one small piece of evidence that if iGrok is scum, Calix could also be scum. I say it's small though because it does also make sense for Calix to swap the read as town, because she could legitimately have seen something that really made her think iGrok was town at that moment, and based on my ask of her to stop reading VE on "smart" things he's supposedly said, Calix seems to put a lot of weight behind these types of "towntells". I don't agree with this type of logic but it's not like I can prevent other players from using it, especially when it does seem to be a fairly useful heuristic if applied properly and consistently.
I also read Calix's style as seeming to fall into the bucket of players who talk at their scum reads and then will back off if they receive a certain type/level of resistance, because IIRC she did this to me when I was scum against you and Calix last time (the only time?) I played with her.
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man how are there 23+ pages since I last left!
and why are people off scum again! did Artanis prove himself town somehow?
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On May 25 2019 00:18 Conversion wrote:
man how are there 23+ pages since I last left!
and why are people off scum again! did Artanis prove himself town somehow?
Hi, I'm Holyflare and I type lots of shiny things and people follow.
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On May 25 2019 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
I think it might be BC and he's being super reasonable this game for a change.
I think I'm really feeling it. Or confirmation biasing myself.
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