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On May 24 2019 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 03:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
If he made it up I'm more impressed than anything else. Why? Fucking anyone can daydream man, I once imagined a time when I had sex with 3 girls at once! It doesn't make me impressive, just kinda a freak!
I just went through the database and unless it happened after 21st September 2018 then I don't think it ever existed. Not a game where we were both mafia like that?
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On May 24 2019 03:20 Conversion wrote:artanis is giving me great conflict. generally his entire filter looked good to me. the only thing about this is I don't QUITE particularly think BC was being aggressive, except to Artanis himself. so I don't quite get this "BC was super duper aggressive, but then chilled out" as a switch reason.+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 20:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:First, why I'm not as sold on BC anymore. He's significantly dialed down his aggression in general when there's no real reason to and is giving opinions on a lot of things. It's this sequence of posts: Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 07:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I r back now and fuck, sorry guys. The way Ruxxar was playing I thought the read was right =\ Even if my voted wasn't on him, my read still played a huge part in his death.
As for the newest events of the last 20 pages or so.
No Bugs, after al that has been said and done, I wont be agreeing to kill VE. I voted for him (briefly) for the same reasons I started to lose my read of HF in the last game. Having time to sit back, think, and reflect I just can't kill him atm.
Looking at the thread trying to be impartial again to avoid the tunnel mentality and the adversity from contrary reads VE looks good. and his reasonings for the slight changes between games makes sense. Can't kill him as of yet.
Looking at the thread now, especially during the night phase. I would say this.
Rayn, HF, VE, Koshi (i hate saying this), all look decent and should be where any protective roles we have be sitting.
As much I know that I am on that list because I know that I am 100% town, given that basically no one else thinks so, leave me to potential bullets. Bugs, and I personally would say Jock, basically lives in the same zone that I am.
That leaves everyone else.
There is enough consensus now on Artanis that although the way I got my initial read on him was completely stupid, he has continued to post in a way that I still think is mafia. Plus the people who seem to be playing better than me agree on it so I feel a bit more sure.
the other 2 I feel are scattered between Callix, Igrok, Conversion and Disinformation. Im trying to avoid tunneling like I have been, because I can see that I have been now.
I need to reread Calix and Igrok as through tunneling artanis, ruxxar and disinformation I more or less left them by the wayside.
Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Bugs. I will fully agree that my first major read on Artanis was after he tunnel dove me and said shit I know is wrong. Your reason for why i was super pissed is right though. I gave him a pass, got shat on by him for giving him that pass, had my filter misinterpreted and shit made up. So I will fully admit I got pissed and tunneled on him.
Now. Do I still think hes mafia? yes, but hes currently the only read I had that I am committed to.
That is also concentrating mainly on the last 24ish hours as well. The content is partially important, but more so is the tone. As mafia there'd be no reason to do anything but keep the focus on me with thread sentiment on his side. He also seems to be working with people to actively try and get a read on them. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I have already stated when I scum read you and when I upgraded my read. Those are clearly already in thread. So go filter dive me if you want to read them. Even you have to put through the extra work if we are going to solve the game. The tone is just so different from earlier and there was no pressure on him to change, really. All the people accusing him were considered null at best. As for why WBG: Same tone thing, but very differently. When HF accused me of something that was wrong, this was how he replied: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And HF, explain your read progression on me. You disliked me, read my filter, gave a begrudging townread and now you're scumreading me for something that is wholly false. Eh, yeah, you're pretty correct actually I don't know. I think it's because you're just not around that you kind of fall by the wayside and I'm like "oh, I haven't scum read that guy in a while and nobody else fits, let's call him mafia." Extremely transparent, acknowledges his reasons for reading me were inaccurate and.. that's it. He doesn't arrive at a conclusion immedately because it's not necessary. Contrast that with Bugs regarding me accusing BC: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
why did people say BC OMGUSed artanis when BC scumread artanis first
or at least I feel like I remember that sentiment was thrown around
ok w/e. Too much thinking.
Makes an incorrect statement. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 07:16 wherebugsgo wrote:On BC reading Artanis as scum before Artanis cased him, look: On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.
Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.
If hes not who we decide to lynch.
At this point id still be down for
Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.
I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities
He literally lists Artanis as the FIRST choice before disfo/ruxxar, after just saying he is confused about VE.
I can totally get him reacting very strongly to Artanis then jumping on a vote on him.
I’m actually deducting town points from both disformation and Artanis for not correctly reading this and using it as an opportunity to scum me insteadLastly, on the disappearing thing: go ahead and look at the times I’m absent from the thread. It is 7 am here in Japan. I referred to ruxxar disappearing on multiple occasions after myself or other players would direct messages at him shortly after he posted in the thread. These are different types of disappearances, and that both rayn and disformation are trying to scum me for it is highly suspicious. Well, I guess not on rayn’s part because rayn just has a hard-on for calling me stupid and twisting everything I say in that direction. Expands on statement, showcases its importance regarding reading me and disfo. Did not check the validity of said statement. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 07:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 23 2019 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 23 2019 07:16 wherebugsgo wrote:On BC reading Artanis as scum before Artanis cased him, look: On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.
Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.
If hes not who we decide to lynch.
At this point id still be down for
Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.
I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities
He literally lists Artanis as the FIRST choice before disfo/ruxxar, after just saying he is confused about VE. I can totally get him reacting very strongly to Artanis then jumping on a vote on him. I’m actually deducting town points from both disformation and Artanis for not correctly reading this and using it as an opportunity to scum me instead Lastly, on the disappearing thing: go ahead and look at the times I’m absent from the thread. It is 7 am here in Japan. I referred to ruxxar disappearing on multiple occasions after myself or other players would direct messages at him shortly after he posted in the thread. These are different types of disappearances, and that both rayn and disformation are trying to scum me for it is highly suspicious. Well, I guess not on rayn’s part because rayn just has a hard-on for calling me stupid and twisting everything I say in that direction. I didn't know May 21 2019 21:08 was before May 20 2019 22:22 in your calendar, WBG. Did you scumread BC before you voted him? Because if you did then I honestly just didn’t remember that, all I remember is that I ignored you for a while since your vote was on me and you were mostly AFK so why would I bother reading you. If you did indeed scumread him before then my apologies, I’m wrong and BC OMGUSed you. Not sure that makes him scum or that his assessment of the situation from his perspective is scummy given that I agreed with it. "Oh I was wrong, but it doesn't change my BC read!" The focus is much more defensive and closed. Then the most recent post made above feels to me like he's trying to stay 'above' the discussion. Get people to guess at his little game to get free townreads.. it doesn't feel like he's critically trying to think of the game, but just filling up space whilst sitting on the sidelines. ##Vote wherebugsgo the second thing is his bugs read, but that's mostly because I townread bugs and I don't think his argument was a good one. mmmmmmmh he's definitely looks less towny than BC to me right now
I remember I found that weird when I read it too.
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On May 24 2019 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2019 03:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
If he made it up I'm more impressed than anything else. Why? Fucking anyone can daydream man, I once imagined a time when I had sex with 3 girls at once! It doesn't make me impressive, just kinda a freak! I just went through the database and unless it happened after 21st September 2018 then I don't think it ever existed. Not a game where we were both mafia like that? Ya I believe you, I want to hear from rayn now. This is bullshit, like it's fine if he can remember the game and it wasn't you or whatever, but his whole read of her is based on YOU being in that game.
I don't think his vote hinges on that. Just that Calix should know way better than to town read me like that early in the game if she was town because she knows what I'm capable of as mafia.
I don't hate that read but it's very old and I think her later posts kind of make up for that. I could also see how she would town read me as town too, so that helps. The only thing that would be read weirdly to me is the fact it was "hf is town so I'll sheep him!" which read a bit TOO sure. That's what rayn is getting at really.
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On May 24 2019 03:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:19 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. Between Artanis and BC I dont know who is more mafia. Artanis became really underwhelming, while BC made the worst post and vote in the game. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis
BUT
I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix. And I still think HF is mafia. For real. I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok. iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu. I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure. Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I know this will likely damn me but whatever.
I am looking into Igroks filter. Opening a post and reading the thread around it for context and I just dont see it. He is actively trying to figure the thread out IMO and his reads do appear to change based on how the thread progresses. Again, he can easily be fooling me but I just don't see how he priority in lynching at this moment in time.
As such
##vote artanis also in no situation do I ever see scum!BC blowing up like that and saying he'll trade 1:1 for scum!Artanis, and scum!Artanis backing off like that
What are you selling? I'm interested in buying.
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Also what is with all the people that would be coming under fire today just vanishing with excuses?
Honestly, the more Bugs posts the worse he looks imo. He is a very VERY strong mafia player and it just looks like his excuses are becoming more and more about avoiding the thread than any kind of being busy.
Calix, similarly, made an afk excuse I think?
iGrok although he said he'd be busy till Friday so I await his inevitable return with calling me mafia.
BC too??
Artanis is just never here.
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On May 24 2019 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2019 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the point is calix couldnt tell the difference bteween our town/mafia play on D3 or smth, now she can tell hf is town (i genuinely think she can call me mafia at that point because sassy or wtfever) not even 24h into D1. On May 23 2019 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We've been in this same situation for like five times and you always never learn and i always think "is he really town? why does he do this over and over again as town?". Being able to convince people of bullshit is an useful trait in mafia, but not always should be used to its full potential. People don't always learn rayn. That doesn't make her mafia. right, i am not calling HF 100% town or mafia though.
I mean there was that game you called me 100% town and I was mafia though :D
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On May 24 2019 03:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
It sounded like Calix was all about lynching into you guys though, that makes her a savvy player. Why didn't town do you recall?
I think I forced them to vote outside the claims and then bugs shot their only chance of mislynching me (nkd vivax for some reason).
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Honestly can't remember, just remember the vivax nk won town the game :D
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VE WHAT IF THESE GUYS ARE GOING LURKER MODE COS THEY'RE DEMOTIVATED THAT THEIR NK DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND THEY HAVE TO PUT UP WITH US MORE?
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On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis
I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!
Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?
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Can Koshi be mafia? He keeps berating people about the lynches he is never on.
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I think the only world where Koshi is mafia is if he's with bugs or something because otherwise I don't think he'd have the motivation to play like last game. Maybe.
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On May 24 2019 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote:Lmao Was this 80 player monstrosity your first game?
Yes. I quit for a couple of years because I thought mafia was an unreadable shit show.
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Now I'm back contributing to making it an unreadable shit show :D
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Don't expect much from me, I'm only going to be trying my best.
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Really dislike the non-eu friendly deadline when most of the game is EU though, makes voting info a bit pointless for a lot of people.
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