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On May 06 2019 20:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like whether I agree with you or not, if he is still not interested in doing anything, I think he's got to go. We're at that point.
Are you talking about slam or ff?
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Does anyone have a problem if starting next lynch we use 24 hour days? I feel like as the player base gets lower and lower this thread will get reallllly slow.
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Well consider this a suggestion to the moderators.
Anyway my best scum read is Grack, followed by MZ. But if Slam continues to be useless I'll probably vote Grack -> Slam -> MZ. Not sure I'm going to change this opinion.
As long as there's only one mafia let, we can afford at least mislynches. We currently have 7 people, meaning 6 town and 1 mafia.
Day 3 (6 v 1): Mislynch and successful NK
Day 4 (4 v 1) Mislynch and successful NK
Day 5 (3 v 1) Mislynch and successful NK
I actually think that if our next two lynch aren't mafia we should no-lynch on Day 5. It will make lylo day be 2v1 instead of 3v1, which I think helps town?
Also if we ever get a doc save we get 4 mislynches.
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Oops I did bad math.
Day 3 (6 v 1): Mislynch and successful NK
Day 4 (4 v 1) Mislynch and successful NK
Day 5 (2 v 1) Mislynch and successful NK
Okay, so no no-lynch needed. But if we get a doc save then I guess we can think about it.
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Medic should just always protect VE. It will make an "endgame" scenario alot easier if there's one confirmed town.
Also VE I hope you know at that point no one is confirmed. For instance, if Bugs manages to survive despite being regularly seen as town, he becomes suspicious.
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I have to say though it would be really entertaining watching an endgame scenario of Slam, MZ, and FF debating each other on who is the mafia.
would there even be posts?
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On one hand I also wanted to do shenannies, but then again if HF was still alive he would probably still be pushing bugs and me so :p
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Ignoring evil monologues,
Slam you have been active but still done absolutely nothing. Why are you voting MZ?
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Why do you actually think im mafia.
What are your opinions on FF and Grack?
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On May 07 2019 00:23 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/373/328/b16.jpg)
Lolllll
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On May 07 2019 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 22:13 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 03 2019 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
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do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore. On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we. I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town. Koshi is null: On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory But I would love to get a follow on with that. Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum: On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled... okay, so just to clarify: 1. you're assuming I am scum 2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum 3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC? 4. Koshi is null/unreadable. 5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax. Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC. Jesus you are dense You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum Yes I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes. Yes Yes Null reads Koshi here, late-like. I'm interested in why Koshi still reads as Null at this point in the game, but he's fine with even advocates Rels lynch over the first couple days. On May 03 2019 11:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
also why did you ignore FF? Probably town: On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself That's a good call right there and I agree with it. Also goes on to say that FF is town, provides reasoning. While he said he "wants followup from Koshi" on the Fefe shot, he never seems to press the matter. Koshi threatened to shoot a townread. Why Koshi still null bro? On May 04 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies? I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that. WAIT JUST A GOD DAMN MOMENT!!!!!!!! Pandain, comment plz
I mean it's slightly suspicious, but Rels was different than Koshi in that Rels was doing absolutely nothing while at least the first day Koshi was contributing a little.
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On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack. However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC. They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post) On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia. On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2. I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0. This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0. They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well. So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC. There you go VE Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot
I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do.
Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons?
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I don't get MZ's strategy if mafia. In this kind of endgame scenario, you want to try and cast suspicions on everyone and leave opportunities open.
Instead MZ has given town leans on everyone except FF.
Imagine: You're MZ, the last scum. You're up for the lynch. Pandain, Slam, and Grack have all had suspicions on them. But instead you go for FF? Doesn't make sense, and makes me lean town.
On May 07 2019 08:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Look man I've been in a lot of lategame scenarios being a shitter who never gets nked and while I do like that you're here and analysing the game this all feels like the 'slow roll into calling FF mafia for being a shitter' which often comes from scum as far as i remember anyway Haha holy shit did the inner guilt get to you? Playing scum sucks, sorry your team kinda gave this one up.
This post seems really fake, however.
I wish I had something more to add but I really don't. I was looking at filters for like an hour but can't decide really between Grack, Slam, MZ, and to a lesser extent FF.
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Especially when most people are townreading FF and his head is on the lynch - why?
I should clarify in the above I don't "Townread" him, its just the strategy seems like it comes more from a townie.
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On May 07 2019 16:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 16:25 Pandain wrote:
Especially when most people are townreading FF and his head is on the lynch - why?
I should clarify in the above I don't "Townread" him, its just the strategy seems like it comes more from a townie. The thing is, lone mafia ALL look like town. Because like townies, they can't trust anyone. EVERYONE is LITERALLY out to kill them. I'm trying to use the events of the game to make a determination. Have you read my latest posts on MZ?
Yes, it's why these kinds of scenarios are so hard.
On May 07 2019 11:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, townies VOTE. It's what townies DO because townies ONLY get to vote. MZ you're VT right? Fucking, and you didn't VOTE? GET OUTTA HEEEEAH!!
I would actually say that town is more likely to miss votes than mafia, because mafia have a vested interested in at least following the thread during the last part of the day (and if they are active they will almost certainly vote). Town has an interest, but since they're not on a team it's less vital.
Yeah the stuff about not taking a very strong stance on Jock is concerning, but it was day 1
That's the problem man. It's a bunch of weak stuff- I agree with you it's suspicious! But none of it is that strong. The problem is all of Grack, MZ, and Slam have pro points and con points. None of it is black and white to me.
I felt pretty confident on Koshi and pretty confident on Vivax. But I'll be honest now I am not really sure. The great thing I don't have to be right now, we have three mislynches.
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Oh I forgot to say, but my meaning is that if MZ is mafia and his head is up to block, why does he pick a person who is pretty town read to try to push? Why not someone easier like me or Slam or Grack?
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On the other hand, if MZ isn't lynched today (and we don't lynch scum) he will almost certainly be lynched day 2 or day 3, so it might just be useful to get it over with now.
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I don't actually get the post. He was saying that we don't have to worry about fake claims because town can just counter claim?
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