On May 08 2019 21:11 Pandain wrote: It's not just about activity. Anyone, even mafia, can be active. It's about meaningful activity, and clearly showing that you care about the game and seriously showing that you're trying to solve it.
It's also part of why Slam is suspicious. He has 8 pages of filter and I don't actually think one is a good post. I mean he's a spammer but is he normally this bad?
Yeah, I really hope you’re Mafia just so this post isn’t so bad.
Using another of the definitions of bad as well. See, it’s bad because I replaced and said I would only be able to give this game sporadic attention yet you expect results.
You try not reading 30 pages in the context and producing results.
On May 08 2019 21:19 Pandain wrote: I mean if you want to actually try to analyze slam you find terrible things:
Complains about time but uses it uselessly 1. Whole last day was going through HF filter (why would we even think HF is accurate, and I think town has been pretty good so far on Vivax and Koshi even though they didn't die from getting lynched). It was all useless and spammy and pointless an
Wanted to vote me and never ever justified it. Even said he wanted to martyr Like half his posts are spam, 1/4 are HF posts, and 1/4 are about me. But he never justified it even after I asked him.
But is this because he's mafia or because he's just useless?
BECAUSE HE WAS.
HF nailed two of the scum early! BC also did but he fell apart.
On May 08 2019 21:19 Pandain wrote: I mean if you want to actually try to analyze slam you find terrible things:
Complains about time but uses it uselessly 1. Whole last day was going through HF filter (why would we even think HF is accurate, and I think town has been pretty good so far on Vivax and Koshi even though they didn't die from getting lynched). It was all useless and spammy and pointless an
Wanted to vote me and never ever justified it. Even said he wanted to martyr Like half his posts are spam, 1/4 are HF posts, and 1/4 are about me. But he never justified it even after I asked him.
But is this because he's mafia or because he's just useless?
On May 08 2019 21:22 Pandain wrote: But the man needs to die. Even as a late policy lynch and even if he's town. YOU DIDNT JUST CONGRATULATE THE DOCTOR YOU EVEN KNOW I AM TOWN AND WANT PEOPLE TO LYNCH ME ANYWAY!
If you are able to have 8 pages you are not "low on time", at least not enough to the point where you are this useless and incapable of doing a single actual analysis. Both as town and mafia, it's inexcusable to have the amount of useless spam, sheeping, and generally uncomprehensible material.
Pandain is so fucking scummy to me man! The slander, the changing opinions, justifying his shitass shot on BC which I guess is brilliant because he knows you fools?
On May 08 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote: When your main argument against him is "he never mentioned Koshi!" you know that it's a pretty weak argument. And it's not because he's not mafia, it's because there's literally nothing in the filter you can analyze. He might as well not have posted at all than post 8 pages, it's the same result.
I disagree with your premise. Koshi flipped as the mafia team's most important role. Especially given their only other role was modkilled. Slam replacing in and then proceeding to ignore Koshi entirely, while everyone else who's alive today had at the very least mentioned Koshi or drawn attention to him at the time, is entirely damning in my eyes.
Fucking hell VE you dumbass.
Did I ever mention HF while he was alive?
How about WBG do I mention WBG much at all?
How about grack I have almost nothing to say about him right?
On May 08 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Mmmmeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhh
I rescind my townread of MZ. His early activity WAS high, but it feels like it's mostly in response to the quick wagon on him. He quickly fucks off when no suspicion is on him.
A lot of the posts he makes are superficial, like his opening post about lynching scum claims or that one where he talks about agreeing about having multiple wagons. Contrived, meant to appear townie while adding nothing substantive.
Is there any mafia that begs this hard to be lynched?
On May 08 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote: When your main argument against him is "he never mentioned Koshi!" you know that it's a pretty weak argument. And it's not because he's not mafia, it's because there's literally nothing in the filter you can analyze. He might as well not have posted at all than post 8 pages, it's the same result.
I disagree with your premise. Koshi flipped as the mafia team's most important role. Especially given their only other role was modkilled. Slam replacing in and then proceeding to ignore Koshi entirely, while everyone else who's alive today had at the very least mentioned Koshi or drawn attention to him at the time, is entirely damning in my eyes.
Fucking hell VE you dumbass.
Did I ever mention HF while he was alive?
How about WBG do I mention WBG much at all?
How about grack I have almost nothing to say about him right?
How about VIvax?
You didn't mention anyone. It's not exonerating to you and doesn't change my point at all. You ignored a bunch of posts by a bunch of people trying to draw attention to Koshi. It doesn't matter that you didn't mention X people because the important part is that you didn't mention Koshi. How does the fact that you didn't mention HF or WBG or Grack change anything about what I said about Koshi? Koshi was the roleblocker. Not WBG, not grack, not HF. My point is that what little time you actually did spend in the thread was spent appealing to me directly and throwing shade on Pandain. In spite of having read a bunch and being caught up.
Now, I'm sorry that ad hominem attacks are more appealing to you than actual logic, but they're certainly not swaying me in the direction you probably desire. Address the substance of my argument rather than attacking me personally. Or get written off entirely.
My point with the “straw men” is that I talk about who catches my attention
My point is that you are getting led off to the wilderness by something that is NAI
I didn’t mention Koshi because I straight up didn’t think to say anything about him, till he was scum and then I don’t filter scum. Instead, I talked about how others read him earlier because that is fucking useful.
Look at my scum games. I totally ignored kush in extractor trick right?
On May 03 2019 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote: It's actually why I ended up playing video mafia as long as I did, that style meshes better with my style of playing the game - my posts are short and conversational. If I walk up to you on a street I'm not going to hand you a letter, I'm going to say "what's up". This game is meant to emulate that dynamic, medium notwithstanding.
Anyway, rant over. I will never stop shit-posting, so long as I'm protected by the sub-forum by-laws that allow me to do so in the name of playing the game.
You're in pretty good company.
Especially now that Slam is in the game.
Hijole!
*read the nested quote*
We even shitposted at each other, man alive. Only VE would be someone I could call a dumbass in a game where he was the only player to result in a scum death, and have him take the high road back by highlighting exactly why I bothered to do so as the reason it was so bad
The man who pointed out and described exactly what my experience is playing this by smoking a bowl and playing and describing the experience
So
Imagine being high as a kite and playing mafia, now you are in Slam’s world
Btw WBG you gonna grab a bite with me in LA tomorrow? I know of a great spot off 3rd & Gladys + Show Spoiler +
DO NOT go there. But srs m8 let us find fine food, I know some spots and could give you a lift to the airport. I want excuses to go to LA, Chiyu is there ;D.
but if you wanna be all fancy we could head to Santa Monica.
With a guy whose daily life is like being constantly high as a kite
On May 05 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote: I think we should lynch Pandain.
After rereading his filter I don't like that he makes such a hard turn into being super sure Vivax is the best lynch at the end of the day and tries to milk the credit for voting him for all that it's worth. Rayn put him in a spot where he pretty much had to vote Vivax but there wasn't much chance of Vivax actually dying at the end of the day when the only people posting were me/Pandain/Rayn.
It may likely be an uphill battle Pandain. So far all I am seeing is stuff I agree with in Grackaroni filter.
On May 05 2019 04:24 wherebugsgo wrote: grack I have a quiz for you.
Can you guess HF's alignment in each of these posts?
1.
On November 02 2017 08:31 Holyflare wrote: Vivax came to the thread sheeped a really obvious read and grumbled about being a pro sheep and that's about it. The read itself is imo bad because he's posted since then and vivax didn't use any of that and then he continued to do nothing. Didn't even grumble about me and lynching me which is his favourite pastime.
Damerion, as explained, jumped on specifically one shockeyy post and voted to lynch him which is totally out of character from his meandering walls of narrative that eventually lead to a vote in previous games and that instantly jumped out. I don't think he'd do that as town.
Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.
2.
On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote: Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead.
He was super submissive to rayn.
He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it.
His interactions with me are all defensive.
Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least.
3.
On June 05 2018 07:39 Holyflare wrote: I find it incredibly hard to think there's been any mafia motivation in my play. All I've done is call it like I've seen it. If I was wrong then fair enough, I was wrong but just because I haven't had the time to play nor come back with ferocity that you "think" I should have does not make me mafia.
It's tough for me to decide what alignment you are though because there's so much stacked up against you. I have a feeling that you're stuck in a corner and instead of natural reevaluation you did the typical mafia scenario of doubling down on your read on me because it makes the most "sense" from your perspective. The problem is it doesn't make sense. Everything you write tries to paint me as some mastermind that played for the long game yet I haven't even really been playing the game so I don't understand how you can simultaneously think both things.
It's also quite telling that you said my partner was darthfoley but didn't even look at the vote count last cycle (which you afked your vote on me in) where I actually tried (and almost succeeded) to kill darthfoley, my alleged partner as a shenanigan. What would be the point at all?
It's this lack of critical analysis combined with the most posts that I've ever seen you write (and all the day 1 vote crap) that leads me to think you are mafia.
Shit.
#1 I'm pretty sure HF was town and Damerion was different but I think he was also town that game and that I totally called it too.
#2 probably HF is town and I am mafia? It sounds a lot like I was mafia.
#3 HF mafia?
Tbh I probably played in all of these games and still could be wrong.
congratulations, you answered incorrectly.
your prize for not knowing how to read HF is a ticket to get on this fucking lynch train and sheep the people who do
On May 04 2019 12:15 wherebugsgo wrote: I think VE also has influence because he seems to be universally town-read. I just don't think anyone in this game is unquestionably leading town.
Now this leads the rub. Based purely on player activity (you can check filters)
How the fuck between all the walls of text / posting has no one snagged real thread control / direction of the town. Why is the only real cases being made for the day.
You and Pandain.
Something to me feels wrong about it all.
What was your thought process at this point when you said this?
You were still scum reading Pandain and HF was the one who actually wrote a case on Pandain at the start of night 1.
On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote: What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find?
Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around
MZ>Grack>Slam MZ>Slam>Grack
This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose.
Keep reading bby
Ah now I see. Well its comforting to see someone agreeing with me although I wish it wasn't Pandain lmao.
Here's your order VE FF>MZ>Pandain
Again if by some miracle I don't get lynched today and FF is town. I want to die tomorrow bc I'll never survive final 3, everyone but maybe Pandain scum reads me. I will need to die so we can pack as many relatively townread people into the final 3 as possible so we don't end up with me/grack/slam lmao.
Pandain is trying to drag me into the final 3 with him.
I am the most universally scumread player and who has spearheaded the pushes onto other players both days?
I need to die and I need to die today, because if you keep me alive and you guys lynch slam or grack today then I've been settup as the perfect 2v1 mislynch.
How is he so confident that both grack and I are town?
EPT
