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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 00:40 GMT
#696
On May 03 2019 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I explained it before - he was active in trying to respond to people and actively questioning people last game, it's littered through his filter there, and it's lacking here.

The fact that you found the word "contradictory" in both filters simply isn't interesting to me.

Yes, obviously it's possible that my view was tainted because I had information, but I'm discussing objective observations made when looking at the two filters in /this/ game where I'm town. I really don't want to quote wall but I will bugs, I'll fucking do it.

And yes, I'm aware that there's going to be a fair amount of confirmation bias going forward due to my read of him and then him coming in with that BULLSHIT after the day post.

Whatever I'll turn in my townie card if I'm wrong.


fair enough, I agree that Pandain hasn't actually done much of use in this game, even though a lot of the hedging is due to apparently not having enough info. I personally didn't read into the absence much because the game is low activity already and it's hard to just be like "oh yeah I don't believe the RL reasons you provided for not being here"

Do you think he's the best lynch? What are the alternatives on your mind?

Strictly speaking you're the best lynch.


COME ON YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN VE

LOL
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 00:46 GMT
#702
On May 03 2019 09:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing.

"I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town

"VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say

MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post.

Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed.

However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself?


blah blah blah first paragraph is lots of nothing about VE and me flipping scum, it won't happen.

If you're scum, I'm getting the impression that you're setting up two things here. One obviously won't happen because if you're scum you already know I'm town. The natural progression is for the thing that you're not highlighting right now to be the thing you set up when I flip -> lynch Pandain

I don't personally see Pandain as scummy and I find this characterization by you really strange because if you are town you can just read my posts and take them at literal face value, it's not like I'm trying to hide anything. Even in the post where I list him in "possibles" I say:


I'd personally put Pandain in "probably not" but whatever, I've been wrong before.


The only thing you've done of note all game is sheep people, particularly HF and now seemingly you're setting everything up to sheep VE.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 00:51 GMT
#705
On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear


let's play, FF.

Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise.

Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked

I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself


assume I'm town because it'll make your brain work less hard when I actually flip that. I'm 100% the lynch today and trust me, if you're town the game will be far easier down the line if you work with me this cycle and just assume I'm town. I have no agenda, I'm completely transparent, you can ask me whatever you want to know. I'm basically just a ticking time bomb at this point so you might as well make use of my opinions while you can.

If you think Rels is scum why would you also think I am scum? Rels called me scum before the flip. Do you think if he were scum with me and he saw both HF and rayn attacking me (I was basically dead even before the red check tbh, because rayn tunneled me for some reason) he would do that?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 00:58 GMT
#710
On May 03 2019 09:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 09:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing.

"I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town

"VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say

MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post.

Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed.

However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself?


blah blah blah first paragraph is lots of nothing about VE and me flipping scum, it won't happen.

If you're scum, I'm getting the impression that you're setting up two things here. One obviously won't happen because if you're scum you already know I'm town. The natural progression is for the thing that you're not highlighting right now to be the thing you set up when I flip -> lynch Pandain

I don't personally see Pandain as scummy and I find this characterization by you really strange because if you are town you can just read my posts and take them at literal face value, it's not like I'm trying to hide anything. Even in the post where I list him in "possibles" I say:


I'd personally put Pandain in "probably not" but whatever, I've been wrong before.


The only thing you've done of note all game is sheep people, particularly HF and now seemingly you're setting everything up to sheep VE.

Bugs this waffling on Pandain is not working for me. You have called him scum and backed off several times now. I'm all for people "evolving" their views but for you to say wanting Pandain dead makes me scum is flat out ignoring your own (very recent) reads. If you want to accuse me of sheeping go right ahead, I wasn't around at the day flip so I didn't have the chance to be the first person to talk about how trash Pandain's posts were. You talk about some "setup" as if you also weren't reading Pandain as red yesterday. You can talk all you want about transparency of reads and that stuff but at some point it just starts to look like you're trying to figure out what the "right" read is to have on Pandain bc holy smokes do you talk about him a lot in your filter.


lie. It was once, and it was fairly short lived.

And yes, obviously I'm trying to figure out Pandain's alignment given that there is a bunch of talk about him and I've tried to reconcile why particularly rayn, HF, and VE are all in agreement that he's scum with the fact that I don't think he's scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 01:03 GMT
#712
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 01:19 GMT
#713
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.


BC let's talk. The situation you talked about with myself & rayn & HF has already resolved itself. I am town though, so there is nothing here to read into, really. I want to hear your opinions about players other than myself and HF, given that our alignments are resolved.

Which reads of mine did you disagree with? Here's the list prior to the daypost, to jog your memory:

Scum

MZ
BC
HF
Vivax

Possible

FF

Neutral

Rels
iGrok/Alakaslam (absent)
Koshi

Lean town

Pandain

Town

VE
rayn
grack
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 01:33 GMT
#714
On May 01 2019 23:39 Vivax wrote:
MZ stuff was just bleh and uninteresting. Why does it make him mafia if he says that he's glad nobody claimed scum yet?It's a wonky thing to say and that's about it. Maybe Bugs and FF can explain how saying that makes people scum cause I don't see it.

And if you're going to say that town MZ should be glad that people scumclaim, imagine how glad mafia MZ would be if it was townies scumclaiming like in 99 % of the cases, given that you are implying you would vote them off for those claims.

In summary, wary of FF cause not shitposting and looking more like a serious mafia FF with that vote.


On May 02 2019 14:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
maf
BC
vivax

maf-ish
grack?
wbg
MZ

towny
rayn
koshi
ve
hf


that's from a once over of the thread based on feels. thinking about hf's pandain case so i haven't placed him yet. rels can die too

I can elaborate or whatever if ppl ask i'll be up all night I think



Anyone else find this really really weird?

VE what does your paranoia tell you?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 01:37 GMT
#716
On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.


just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 01:42 GMT
#717
On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear


let's play, FF.

Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise.

Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked

I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself


Have you placed Pandain yet?

Mind posting another full list of yours, with Pandain included?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 02:01 GMT
#719
On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.


just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.

Jock
Rels
FF

Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.

If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.


In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town

Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral

Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.



Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.

Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we.

I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town.

Koshi is null:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory

But I would love to get a follow on with that.

Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum

This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled...


okay, so just to clarify:

1. you're assuming I am scum
2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum
3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC?
4. Koshi is null/unreadable.
5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax.

Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 02:02 GMT
#720
also why did you ignore FF?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 02:21 GMT
#726
On May 03 2019 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.


just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.

On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.

Jock
Rels
FF

Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.

If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.


In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town

Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral

Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.



On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.

Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we.

I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town.

Koshi is null:
On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory

But I would love to get a follow on with that.

Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum:
On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum

This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled...


okay, so just to clarify:

1. you're assuming I am scum
2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum
3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC?
4. Koshi is null/unreadable.
5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax.

Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC.

Jesus you are dense
You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum
Yes
I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes.
Yes
Yes


I mean you literally said less likely than Pandain but not turbo town and there's a huge gray area there, just trying to confirm what you are saying because you're not making it easy to understand your actual stance.

On May 03 2019 11:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Hot damn VE cut the wrist and all that came out was salt


have you caught up? How do you read Pandain, FF, and Rels?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 02:29 GMT
#732
On May 03 2019 11:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 10:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.


BC let's talk. The situation you talked about with myself & rayn & HF has already resolved itself. I am town though, so there is nothing here to read into, really. I want to hear your opinions about players other than myself and HF, given that our alignments are resolved.

Which reads of mine did you disagree with? Here's the list prior to the daypost, to jog your memory:

Scum

MZ
BC
HF
Vivax

Possible

FF

Neutral

Rels
iGrok/Alakaslam (absent)
Koshi

Lean town

Pandain

Town

VE
rayn
grack

No I not absent no more! Wtf!


HF has a red check on me so let's assume he's not mafia. I'm going to tell you now I will flip town-if I flip VT then you can kill HF ezpz, miller he's town.

Got 2 other people who look like scum to you?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 02:31 GMT
#734
does anyone besides me think Pandain is town?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 13:08 GMT
#757
I've been told I can't vote myself.

that's pretty silly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 14:52 GMT
#770
look if HF is backtracking his claim then he should be the lynch. HF hasn't done anything to establish that he is town this game, and even if he is town you should never reward fake claims like that.

##vote Holyflare
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 15:04 GMT
#773
On May 04 2019 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Imagine wanting to lynch me for just being me. I feel personally attacked.


shh only I get to say things like this
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 15:05 GMT
#774
On May 04 2019 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
Who said I'm not the cop anyway?


no one knows what you're doing and it's wasting a lot of time and posts. There's nothing about what you are doing that's pro-town and you know it 100%
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 15:45 GMT
#777
you're not actually trying to get Pandain lynched though, you claimed a check on me and coupled with rayn's read/flip I'm taking votes. You also apparently say we can't be mafia together even though you read us both independently as scum...?? I literally cannot come up with a town perspective for you that makes sense.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 03 2019 16:42 GMT
#783
On May 04 2019 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 05:32 Pandain wrote:
I'm sure mafia is fuming right now. That sucks. Not only is their GF dead but the lynch they were gonna try and push (me) can't work anymore.

HE EVEN CONGRATULATED THE DOC JESUS CHRIST GUYS


What do you mean he congratulated the doc?
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