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On May 05 2019 03:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
I think at this point even though I haven't and most likely still won't read MZ's filter I am pretty sure he has to be mafia. Of all the people that have voted me or fabricated reasons on me or cherry picked he's the only one that's simply hopped on with no critical evaluation or hesitance. He just exists in this game coming out of the woodwork to ask a few questions and back away into blending again.
I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. I don't have to, bugs already did, I looked myself and agreed and moved my vote. You can get angry and indignant all you want, but you had an opportunity to say all this before now. Link me to this proof. Right now.
I won't. Dig yourself out of this.
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On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
I think at this point even though I haven't and most likely still won't read MZ's filter I am pretty sure he has to be mafia. Of all the people that have voted me or fabricated reasons on me or cherry picked he's the only one that's simply hopped on with no critical evaluation or hesitance. He just exists in this game coming out of the woodwork to ask a few questions and back away into blending again.
I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you.
TBH mine originated as meta based.
You feel completely different this game compared to end of the world mafia. The way you post, mannerisms, etc...
Factor in the extra and it just makes more sense.
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On May 05 2019 03:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,
I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.
Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.
Sincerely,
Pandain Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 04:52 Pandain wrote:
Vivax is a great lynch. He's always obvious town when he's town and super active. Compare that with this game where it is not obvious at all and he's barely contributed (but enough to "pass") So HF, He said he thought Jock was a good lynch, but thought Rels was a better lynch, then chose Vivax for basically the same reason. Fuck, like, He stated his reasons for voting and you are damning him for it. Based on that logic, the fact you fake claimed to kill bugs but are now pushing pandain means we should lynch you because you thought bugs was worth the fake claim.
I mean HF literally also said like four times that I am more likely to be scum than Pandain but conveniently his vote never moved to me.
Like all that shit about the mod confirmation? If the KP bs was the thing that moved HF over the edge to move his vote from me to Pandain, why wouldn't he move it back to me the moment Artanis confirmed that there's only 1 kp? Nothing else happened inbetween those two events.
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On May 05 2019 03:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,
I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.
Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.
Sincerely,
Pandain Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 04:52 Pandain wrote:
Vivax is a great lynch. He's always obvious town when he's town and super active. Compare that with this game where it is not obvious at all and he's barely contributed (but enough to "pass") So HF, He said he thought Jock was a good lynch, but thought Rels was a better lynch, then chose Vivax for basically the same reason. Fuck, like, He stated his reasons for voting and you are damning him for it. Based on that logic, the fact you fake claimed to kill bugs but are now pushing pandain means we should lynch you because you thought bugs was worth the fake claim.
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Should we fucking lynch you or what? What a hypocritical fuck. This is literally what you YOU have said about Pandain. He was the top of your mafia list.
NOW IT'S ME WITH THE TWISTING NARRATIVE LOL.
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On May 05 2019 03:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:35 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
I think at this point even though I haven't and most likely still won't read MZ's filter I am pretty sure he has to be mafia. Of all the people that have voted me or fabricated reasons on me or cherry picked he's the only one that's simply hopped on with no critical evaluation or hesitance. He just exists in this game coming out of the woodwork to ask a few questions and back away into blending again.
I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. I don't have to, bugs already did, I looked myself and agreed and moved my vote. You can get angry and indignant all you want, but you had an opportunity to say all this before now. Link me to this proof. Right now. I won't. Dig yourself out of this.
Extremely convenient. I can only assume you're mafia.
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On May 05 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 02 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Dear Mr. BloodyC0bbler,
I think Jock is a good lynch but I'm keeping my vote on Rels at the moment. This is exactly what he did in End of the World as mafia (as you and I both know), and I also don't like his only post that said "me too!". It just seemed fake to me.
Furthermore, and maybe more importantly, it pressures him to come on in and talk. I would love if more people voted him if only for this reason.
Sincerely,
Pandain On May 02 2019 04:52 Pandain wrote:
Vivax is a great lynch. He's always obvious town when he's town and super active. Compare that with this game where it is not obvious at all and he's barely contributed (but enough to "pass") So HF, He said he thought Jock was a good lynch, but thought Rels was a better lynch, then chose Vivax for basically the same reason. Fuck, like, He stated his reasons for voting and you are damning him for it. Based on that logic, the fact you fake claimed to kill bugs but are now pushing pandain means we should lynch you because you thought bugs was worth the fake claim. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Should we fucking lynch you or what? What a hypocritical fuck. This is literally what you YOU have said about Pandain. He was the top of your mafia list. NOW IT'S ME WITH THE TWISTING NARRATIVE LOL.
it's almost as if players continue to post and things gradually become clearer over time
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On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
bugs as for a questions for you.
Who would you say is currently controlling the flow of this game player wise? IE who has the most influence currently. no one. If I had to pick one player, the closest would be HF. Why HF over say VE? As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control. HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain.
On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now?
On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game.
This is bullshit. Holyflare was the person pushing people the hardest outside of maybe Rayn and Bugs acknowledged that earlier unprompted..
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On May 05 2019 03:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:37 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:35 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
I think at this point even though I haven't and most likely still won't read MZ's filter I am pretty sure he has to be mafia. Of all the people that have voted me or fabricated reasons on me or cherry picked he's the only one that's simply hopped on with no critical evaluation or hesitance. He just exists in this game coming out of the woodwork to ask a few questions and back away into blending again.
I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. I don't have to, bugs already did, I looked myself and agreed and moved my vote. You can get angry and indignant all you want, but you had an opportunity to say all this before now. Link me to this proof. Right now. I won't. Dig yourself out of this. Extremely convenient. I can only assume you're mafia.
THIS IS ALSO EXTREMELY CONVENIENT!
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On May 05 2019 03:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:37 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:35 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 05 2019 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
I think at this point even though I haven't and most likely still won't read MZ's filter I am pretty sure he has to be mafia. Of all the people that have voted me or fabricated reasons on me or cherry picked he's the only one that's simply hopped on with no critical evaluation or hesitance. He just exists in this game coming out of the woodwork to ask a few questions and back away into blending again.
I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. I don't have to, bugs already did, I looked myself and agreed and moved my vote. You can get angry and indignant all you want, but you had an opportunity to say all this before now. Link me to this proof. Right now. I won't. Dig yourself out of this. Extremely convenient. I can only assume you're mafia.
as with Meapak, and myself, and Pandain, and BC
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On May 04 2019 11:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed. This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me) how many mafia are left It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp. Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more? Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell? I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed. No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot. I know that HF posted this as a reason to vote for pandain. However with the mod confirmation of fixed 1 kp I am inclined to think this post alone would exonerate pandain. Why? Because if you have more information than the rest of the game (being mafia) you tend to be super careful in regards to talking about kp, being vague or what not. I don't see a player of pandains experience being mafia in this case. Fuck.
and then I made this post here HF. I have a 3 page filter. Cherry pick me more?
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I BEGGED YOU TO NOTICE ME SENPAI
BEGGED
AND NOW YOU GET FUCKED
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On May 02 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:16 Pandain wrote:On May 02 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote: FIXED POST I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close. Also this is concerning: On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all. You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch. Mafia literally does it all the time. It's precisely inherently mafia to say good things and then not do them or follow them Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
Also more importantly it's not a dumb silly contradiction that could be overlooked. It's a mindset contradiction Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote:
I mean he could be town perhaps even likely. Im not even voting him. But it's day 1 so do what you do Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:37 Pandain wrote:
Why are you not against the lynch when you said there was only a five percent chance he's scum Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:38 Pandain wrote:
That makes no sense and is super scummy regardless of jocks alignment Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 04:01 Pandain wrote:
If you think there's almost no chance someone is scum why are you perfectly okay with his lynch This guy is suspect numero uno. Anybody that uses the phrase "that's scummy regardless of Jock's alignment" is a guy that has tmi and makes it want to look like he's weighing up his options. Let us also not forget that he agreed with all the points on Jock, fought against rayn that jock looked scummy, said rayn was scummy for not trying to save his town read and then dropped it all to try and shenanigan with rayn. Let us also not forget that Pandain wanted to lynch rels (based on incorrect meta that was highlighted several times already) despite a wagon building on Jock, his also scum read, to make rels active again. Then when that didn't take off, Pandain, master of misdirection, avoided joining the jock wagon (his scum read) again for terrible shenanigans. Then when Jock, his scum read, flipped town (after pandain said he's probably town for no discernable reason why arguing that he was still mafia) Pandain decides to call the entire wagon on Jock, his scum read, and also maybe town read, mafia. No thanks. You mafia mate. Lynch Pandain when I'm gone.
This is my Pandain case which literally only bugs has EVER talked about.
It mentions everything you called out Pandain for BC, literally everything. Yet now you use your same post as an accusation for me. No way.
What is cherry picked in this case?
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On May 05 2019 03:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
bugs as for a questions for you.
Who would you say is currently controlling the flow of this game player wise? IE who has the most influence currently. no one. If I had to pick one player, the closest would be HF. Why HF over say VE? As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control. HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain. Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game. This is bullshit. Holyflare was the person pushing people the hardest outside of maybe Rayn and Bugs acknowledged that earlier unprompted..
I don't understand how you can go from Holyflare is leading the thread to Holyflare isn't pushing people aggressively and is just opportunistic.
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On May 05 2019 03:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 11:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed. This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me) how many mafia are left It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp. Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more? Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell? I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed. No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot. I know that HF posted this as a reason to vote for pandain. However with the mod confirmation of fixed 1 kp I am inclined to think this post alone would exonerate pandain. Why? Because if you have more information than the rest of the game (being mafia) you tend to be super careful in regards to talking about kp, being vague or what not. I don't see a player of pandains experience being mafia in this case. Fuck. and then I made this post here HF. I have a 3 page filter. Cherry pick me more?
THAT'S NOT WHAT CHERRY PICKING IS LOL.
YOU you you, have said that I have CHERRY PICKED my case on pandain. That means I've extrapolated information incorrectly and used it to formulate a push in a bad way.
This is extremely false because it's the same thing you posted. Either you have also cherry picked a pandain case or I have not. If you say I have then you also have.
Just because things after the fact you say exonerate Pandain doesn't mean that I have to agree or disagree with them. If I disagree with your premise and say that people fake dumb tells like that all the time that is then a divergent path in our reads, not a cherry picked case being pushed.
You are the one now saying that our disagreement is in fact cherry picking and a twisted narrative. Where does that twisted narrative ever occur BC?
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On May 05 2019 03:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
bugs as for a questions for you.
Who would you say is currently controlling the flow of this game player wise? IE who has the most influence currently. no one. If I had to pick one player, the closest would be HF. Why HF over say VE? As of this moment I feel VE has the closest thing to thread control. HF is the only person in the thread who has consistently managed to get a wagon going. Jock, myself, Pandain. Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
The paranoia within me gives HF a good chance to flip scum. I don't really understand why others think he is town and he's done a phenomenal job at twisting words and misrepresenting events throughout the game. His responses to rebuttals are really underwhelming, he tends to pick one thing and blow it completely out of proportion, like the NK scumtell thing, me "not responding" to his case on Pandain after calling it trash, he fake claims cop and then just brushes it aside like "ah but nah but maybe not today but yeah I'm gonna try to be mysterious" and even rayn complained that when talking to HF he got nothing out of him, especially when rayn asked HF for his opinions about me. Question for you, then. Outside of fake claiming to kill you. Does he seem to be aggressively pushing targets right now? He doesn't seem to be aggressive in pushing to me, no. I'd classify his play as opportunistic in this game. This is bullshit. Holyflare was the person pushing people the hardest outside of maybe Rayn and Bugs acknowledged that earlier unprompted..
you don't seem to understand the difference between having enough cred to get sheeped and actually aggressively pushing your targets.
My push on HF = aggressive.
HF's push on me, Pandain, and Jock = opportunistic. He literally saw openings in players he thought he could misrepresent and attacked those. Note his voting patterns in particular. He only votes once he knows there is significant momentum on his target. The only exception on face value is his push on me, but that one was easy to predict from a mile away because rayn incorrectly read me and then died-and if HF is scum, he knew that would happen anyway.
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On May 05 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 03:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 11:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 04 2019 08:49 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.
Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed. This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me) how many mafia are left It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp. Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more? Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell? I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed. No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot. I know that HF posted this as a reason to vote for pandain. However with the mod confirmation of fixed 1 kp I am inclined to think this post alone would exonerate pandain. Why? Because if you have more information than the rest of the game (being mafia) you tend to be super careful in regards to talking about kp, being vague or what not. I don't see a player of pandains experience being mafia in this case. Fuck. and then I made this post here HF. I have a 3 page filter. Cherry pick me more? THAT'S NOT WHAT CHERRY PICKING IS LOL. YOU you you, have said that I have CHERRY PICKED my case on pandain. That means I've extrapolated information incorrectly and used it to formulate a push in a bad way. This is extremely false because it's the same thing you posted. Either you have also cherry picked a pandain case or I have not. If you say I have then you also have. Just because things after the fact you say exonerate Pandain doesn't mean that I have to agree or disagree with them. If I disagree with your premise and say that people fake dumb tells like that all the time that is then a divergent path in our reads, not a cherry picked case being pushed. You are the one now saying that our disagreement is in fact cherry picking and a twisted narrative. Where does that twisted narrative ever occur BC?
I have literally used the word cherry picking once and it was when you cherry picked 1 of my posts while ignoring another. Would would create a false narrative.
However. If you really need to know. For all your "case" you have on pandain you didnt fucking vote for him because you still werent sure he was mafia UNTIL HE MENTIONED A POSSIBILITY OF MULTIPLE MAFIA KP. YOU THEN USED THAT AS THE MAIN REASON YOU VOTED FOR HIM.
For fucks sake dude. that is literally what you did.
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I kinda felt like you twisted the narrative with all the "that was obviously a joke" and "I'm a cop with a redcheck" and "I'm buying a house I won't be around"
Like, it just seems to me like you're playing dishonestly. Rayn tried to talk to you about bugs on N1 and you trolled all over him. I'm actually a little relieved mafia killed rayn because he was going to go ape shit on D2 and we were ALL going to have to deal with that, I'm surprised mafia even bothered. But they did, and your VERY FIRST WORDS were
On May 03 2019 07:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 07:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
Vivax literally only mentions FF and MZ in his filter. I think FF is 100% town Okay, I'll just make this quick and painless for you. wherebugsgo
....like sure, you were "reaction testing" or whatever with a fake-claim - I get it - but it just seems REEEEEEEALY convenient that Rayn dies with bugs name on his lips and the VERY FIRST thing you do, and REALLY THE ONLY THING YOU DO THIS DAY is try to get bugs lynched through one means or another.
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Okay technically you mentioned something about the replacements like a noob/angleshooter, but I chose to ignore that.
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