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On May 03 2019 07:52 Holyflare wrote: Hm didn't realise there was miller too. Pretty shit if it's gf miller though. how the fuck can you not realise there is a miller if you're a cop | ||
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On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm fine lynching with HFs claim. I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying. However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? | ||
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HF is not scumclaiming here because that's a nonsensical 1 for 1. It just serves to shit up the thread today, HF then dies the next day and then HF is banking on his scum teammate to somehow survive for a couple more cycles. My flip guarantees confirmation of HF's alignment. Miller = town, VT = scum obviously. BC is still waiting on talking about all of this (he's here, I guarantee it) so he looks worse. I don't agree on Pandain being scum, however rayn also thought he was scum. (and FF but I don't get that one either) Likely: BC MZ Koshi Possibly: Alakaslam Rels FF Pandain Probably not: VE grack confirmed: HF me I'd personally put Pandain in "probably not" but whatever, I've been wrong before. | ||
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On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing. "I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town "VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post. | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Imagine being called confirmed town by the guy you red checked. what's so hard to imagine about that? On May 03 2019 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote: /wrist thoughts on BC? esp. his last interaction with rayn and his subsequent disappearance? | ||
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yeah, I'm the red check. Did you read? | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:22 Grackaroni wrote: lol one time he fake claimed a check as the real cop. So we lynched a townie and then lynched him as the cop. who do you think is scum here? What do you think of BC talking with Rayn before deadline but not being here now? | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think it will be worth taking a look at if Bugs flips red. Again I was agreeing more with HF than anything else when I was catching up so I'm fairly confident in that flip. I think the miller argument is an incredibly flimsy defense at this point and with the GF dead it makes literally zero sense for scum HF to do a 1-1 trade. just wanted to highlight this From my perspective the only thing that makes sense is being a miller, because 1. I am not scum and 2. there is no framer in this game. There is the off-chance that HF is a complete moron who fake claimed but that would require me to believe that HF is playing against his win condition and while I may sometimes be an asshole I'm not that big of an asshole. "an incredibly flimsy defense" is rich given that I'm not even bothering defending myself. | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:25 Grackaroni wrote: I think scum is just in MZ/FF/Rels with an off chance of HF. HF can't be scum unless I flip VT. BTW, if I flip VT you all HAVE to lynch him, doesn't matter what he says, because you can't let him get away with a town fake claim. He'll eventually do it as scum. | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:25 Grackaroni wrote: I think scum is just in MZ/FF/Rels with an off chance of HF. what about koshi? | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:30 Grackaroni wrote: I got a good feel from him earlier when he was spamming posts but he needs to pick up his game too. Sheeping his vote based on Rayn is shitty. you saw he claimed vig? | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:32 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I think that was similar to Rayn claiming veteran. People do a lot of things like that at night these days. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/NCmtFah.jpg) | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:35 Grackaroni wrote: lmao. If he's actually vig then he can claim it and he was probably roleblocked shooting FF, but it makes no sense to claim before shooting as the actual vig when you will just get roleblocked if you aren't shooting town. agreed, but I've witnessed people do far dumber. What are your thoughts on Pandain? And why do you townread BC? | ||
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On May 03 2019 05:52 Alakaslam wrote: WAS RAYN ON THE RIGHT TRACK??!? you here? have you caught up on the game? | ||
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I've read through a bit of Pandain's early game from Fibonacci and I think it matches well here, both in tone and in terms of what he tried to get done in both games. On tone, he's always really hedgy/self-aware and I didn't see this in some scum games I read, although those scum games are old, AFAIK. Emphasis mine: On April 07 2019 20:29 Pandain wrote: I'm actually happy I was busy because the discussion on me helped make the thread alive and was very useful. I mean, I'm going to be honest, I'm 100% a lurker at this point with only a short paragraph as a post. This is my fault for not explaining, I should have explained more. It's not at all that they claimed they have win conditions which make me think rayne and TW are town. It's what they posted that demonstrates a town mentality. It's not the win condition part but rather the above bolded sentence. It strikes me as a townie who has an actual role that he's seriously thinking about and contemplating. I would actually agree that if you have an alternate win condition you're likely not mafia (but maybe! not certain at all!). The fact that this post seems very genuine makes me think he's telling the truth. Same reasoning for this post. If I was mafia I don't think I would be thinking about my role pm in this way. If I was mafia maybe I write "haha my role pm is weird" or "i have win condition" or speculate about the setup. But the ambiguity of this post and the way he wrote about it "i wonder if this guy in my role pm is mafia" seems a little bit out of left park for mafia. Typing it out makes it seem like a bit of a crapshoot but to be honest that's all day one anyway. All of these reads will change as days actually progress, but this is what I feel right now. This all is hard to explain but it's what I feel. I hope it made some sense to some people. He also talks about mindset contradictions like he does in this game. This might not be a big tell but IMO it's rare that scum will focus on behaviour like that. On April 07 2019 20:33 Pandain wrote: I'm going to vote Mig. I don't have the hours for this day cycle to examine absolutely everyone (though I will go through MZ and damdred and palmar based on discussion), but Mig really stood out to me. Like other's said - an extremely safe post. Not bad in of itself but not good either. Then this seemed extremely contradictory. Mig literally has done nothing this game except the above empty post and ask a couple people some questions. I think whenever someone is an obvious mindset contradiction like this it reeks of mafia. Then, compare how his vote aligns with his thoughts as written in the thread. In this game as well, Pandain often went on about how he was fine with Jock being the lynch but he was pursuing other targets. He did that there as well: On April 07 2019 22:30 Pandain wrote: I just read MZ. I agree it looks contradictory. I don't think it's a bad lynch but I'll keep my vote on Mig for the time being. From that point he tried to get a last minute wagon going and failed (?) There aren't many posts if any after that worth reading because the game was themed and it becomes too setup-focused. I agree that there's probably not much useful signal beyond the early game. Since we seem to have come to opposite conclusions, why? Do you think because you were scum last game your opinion was a bit tainted by the fact that you had more info than you should've? I'm just not seeing why he doesn't look similar here to you. | ||
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On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote: I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. | ||
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On May 03 2019 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I explained it before - he was active in trying to respond to people and actively questioning people last game, it's littered through his filter there, and it's lacking here. The fact that you found the word "contradictory" in both filters simply isn't interesting to me. Yes, obviously it's possible that my view was tainted because I had information, but I'm discussing objective observations made when looking at the two filters in /this/ game where I'm town. I really don't want to quote wall but I will bugs, I'll fucking do it. And yes, I'm aware that there's going to be a fair amount of confirmation bias going forward due to my read of him and then him coming in with that BULLSHIT after the day post. Whatever I'll turn in my townie card if I'm wrong. fair enough, I agree that Pandain hasn't actually done much of use in this game, even though a lot of the hedging is due to apparently not having enough info. I personally didn't read into the absence much because the game is low activity already and it's hard to just be like "oh yeah I don't believe the RL reasons you provided for not being here" Do you think he's the best lynch? What are the alternatives on your mind? | ||
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