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VisceraEyes
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Fecalfeast
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted. Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction. HOWEVER In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. BC is on people Zodiac list, I get that people don't trust me, but we can trust BC if he's town..........granted, that's obviously no guarantee, but there's a lack of edge in HIS game too, which leads me to the same conclusion. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the world just wants to lynch bugs. Don't say I didn't try to stop it. Unless he's mafia, then feel free to leave that part out. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On May 04 2019 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Ya I'm not voting Rels. If you want to get down on a lurker lynch, I suggest Pandain as A) he's lurking B) he has content by which to judge him and C) there's a preestablished interest in removing him from town. The only person AGAINST his lynch vocally is the other wagon. That you're poopooing his lynch makes you WAY more suspicious to me. I wouldn't really say Pandain lurking in the same way Rels is. Rels seems to have given up which is what I'd expect whereas Pandain was still trying when he was here. I think your case against Pandain is good, I've said that a bunch of times, but I think you're tunneled on him at this point and not considering other options. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wouldn't really say Pandain lurking in the same way Rels is. Rels seems to have given up which is what I'd expect whereas Pandain was still trying when he was here. I think your case against Pandain is good, I've said that a bunch of times, but I think you're tunneled on him at this point and not considering other options. If you think it's good, then you should vote for it rather than cheerlead it while trying to get me to vote on a coinflip, yeah? Otherwise it just looks like you're trying to manipulate me into doing what you want. Is that what you're doing? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: VE I think the thread is not sold on bugs anymore bc HF has waffled so hard. Your tunnel on Pandain might be clouding your judgement a bit. No, YOU aren't sold on bugs because of the waffle, and you've been explicit about it. What evidence do you have that the rest of the town isn't sold on bugs anymore? Is it how quickly everyone jumped off the wagon once HF retracted his claim? OH WAIT...... | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Higher probability scum. Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted. Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction. HOWEVER In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote: First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh. Yes I don't think anyone was under any illusions about your care level HF as you were. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
##vote pandain k | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote: First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh. Lmao what is this shit HF? What happened to the bugs stuff? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote: First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? I think he's just happy it isn't him | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
Everything I just read screams of a town bugs vs a town HF. You two need to stop funneling eachother and take a step back and breathe ffs. TBH if you look based purely on activity since the flip the people based on absence that look the worst. Pandain Rels Me As we have all been mia. As much as me being at work then sleeping makes sense to me, enough people in mafia lie about why they aren't around to avoid the fos so meh. IMO the shit pandain did when he came back into thread did not exonerate him. He was a top lynch pick of more than 1 person and all hes done is appear to basically claim town cred then bounce. Given that I was already suspicious of him and the whole attempting to claim town cred and vanishing looks slimy as fuck, hes red in my mind unless he can change my mind before he flips. The thing with rels. He was "inactive" in thread in the end of the world mafia when he and I were on a team together until he couldn't be anymore. Even then he tried to fly under the radar. However he was stupidly active in the mafia QT. as much as part of me wants to say hes red. Currently he just looks like he has 0 time and no motivation to play. As hes basically almost at the modkill point id leave him for that / wait and see if he appears just long enough to skirt the posting / voting requirements. Also just quoting this for my own future thoughts based on how flips play out as the post stood out as a glaring wtf all of todays posting I was reading. On May 04 2019 03:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok two hours to go. I want to do shenanigans. HF not around to defend or explain his actions is making me not like the bugs lynch more and more. Like I said early game, I'd rather not just lynch through the most active voices who find themselves on the wrong thread sentiment. I would like to go after Rels for the tmi post and complete afk. After the death of the gf I'd imagine scum morale is pretty low and if townies are pointing fingers at townies their best strategy is to lurk. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
[b] Town /b] VE BC FF null - lean town WBG HF MZ Koshi Null Alakaslam Mafia Pandain Grack Rels | ||
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