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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 02 2019 20:21 GMT
#601
Hahahahaha

Okay now hopefully no one thinks I'm mafia for trying to get the mafia godfather killed
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 02 2019 20:21 GMT
#602
Grack and I get very heavy heavy town points
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 02 2019 20:25 GMT
#606
On May 03 2019 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if I want to read into the choice to replace igrok and not vivax or not.


I wouldn't
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 02 2019 20:32 GMT
#608
I'm sure mafia is fuming right now. That sucks. Not only is their GF dead but the lynch they were gonna try and push (me) can't work anymore.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:39 GMT
#850
On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what

No.

Pandain.

No.

You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.

In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.

##Vote: Pandain


I'm sorry if I came across as arrogant, I didn't mean to send that tone. It definitely does sound a bitdickish on reread, and I apologize if it does. Honestly, it was mostly just feeling happy that I probably wasn't going to have to spend a lot of time defending myself, and the fact that my biggest scum read was mafia.

However, you're completely missing the situation. Let me summarize three reasons why

1. Vivax was in absolutely no danger of getting lynched and I single-handedly led the lynch on him. Yes, Rayn was suspicious of him first and brought me aware of him, but I convinced him and Grack to vote for him (Rayn was super apathetic at first about switching.) So it's not a "one vote", it's leading a wagon.

2. There were so many "AFK" votes that anything could have happened end of day . There were four nonvoters, which is a huge amount. Why would I introduce such huge amounts of chaos and uncertainty towards the mafia godfather when no one was trying to talk about it.

3. You say I'm trying to capitalize on a possibly modkilled GF. Ok, that would make sense (maybe) if it was end of the night right before the day2 post. But why as Mafia would I think that vivax would stay AFK throughout the entire night (24 hours)? So that doesn't make any sense unless Vivax would have posted something like he couldn't make it, in which case Artanis probably wouldn't have modkilled him because he got the heads up.

On May 03 2019 07:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just don't know what he's capable of, he's better than me okay?!

HES BETTER THAN ME BUGS AND I CAN'T FUCKING READ HIM!

He could be doing this as town, cock-sure of himself saying fuck all of us. We don't matter to him regardless of his alignment.

He could be doing this as mafia, fearlessly flitting from target to target, posting walls of quotes and then writing conclusions that have nothing to do with the quotes AND YOU DON'T REMEMBER BECAUSE THE WALL WAS SO BIG!


Honestly this post sounds really fake. But if you're actually town then you should know I actually think you're pretty good at the game and probably 'better' than me...

On May 03 2019 07:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever I'll just read then. I fucking hate when people come in and scream about trying to lynch someone who died NOT from the lynch and flipped and now I'm tilted.

Can you explain why this makes you mad? Honestly if you're town you should be thrilled that mafia got killed, and instead you seem pissed. Just becuase I didn't suceede in getting him lynched was not because I didn't try, actually all 3 people active at end of day voted for him; it was a problem of inactivity- not lack of will or effort.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:40 GMT
#851
I'm still catching up but please let me know any questions you want answered. I think its really really stupid to want to lynch me for reasons stated above, but I also understand because I've been busy my activity is shit (something that will change hopefully).

In the meanwhile I'll be catching up
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:53 GMT
#854
On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.

Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed.


This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:54 GMT
#856
On May 04 2019 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Try and lynch me if you think it's fake. Good fucking luck.


Can you respond to my actual points? It makes no sense for me to have done what I did if I was mafia. It would be extremely counter productive ,my teammates could have gotten super super super pissed at me, and maybe I would even be banned or something crazy if I did something as stupid as that.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:56 GMT
#859
On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:
On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.

Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed.


This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me)

how many mafia are left


It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp.

Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:56 GMT
#861
So VE I know my activity was shit so that's why I don't blame anyone yet for voting for me. But besides my post that you felt was dickish, why do you think I'm mafia?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:58 GMT
#862
On May 04 2019 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 07:54 Pandain wrote:
On May 04 2019 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Try and lynch me if you think it's fake. Good fucking luck.


Can you respond to my actual points? It makes no sense for me to have done what I did if I was mafia. It would be extremely counter productive ,my teammates could have gotten super super super pissed at me, and maybe I would even be banned or something crazy if I did something as stupid as that.


I will respond to literally nothing you say in your defense. Your best defense is to try and offer up another alternative.


You are objectively a terrible mafia player if you are town and say this. Objectively.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 22:59 GMT
#864
Which I don't think you are.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:09 GMT
#869
I don't understand why first of all you think I'm trying to get you lynched. I think one of your posts seems fake - however I don't know you or your personality or really how you post. I would never make a scum read based on that. Actually I'm suspicious of you now for refusing to see that it would be completely retarded for me to lead to wagon on Vivax (and like you said you know I'm not a retarded player), but that's something else.

I just caught up, and by the way if I genuinely think you are mafia and that is my best bet I don't care how town-read you are. Particuarly when there's 20 hours left in the day.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:12 GMT
#873
It's because I like to think about it first.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:17 GMT
#876
I have to know, are you personally angry at me? The internet is bad at expressing communication but the way you post towards me sounds like you have a grudge or something. I just want to clear things so we can move forward.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:29 GMT
#880
(as an fyi im still working on another post detailing my thoughts, just responding quick to this)

I just think it's a very very weak theory. No one was suspecting him at all. And especially in a low player-count game like this it seems very risky.

I mean its certainly possible. But I think the sheer improbability should caution you away from me. That's the point I'm making.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:35 GMT
#882
That's fine, the only reason I say it is because everyone doesn't fucking realize it, and the fact I'm up for lynch. I wouldn't be talking about it otherwise.

And you need to address it anyway. You think I'm just a prolific busser? You think I knew that he wouldn't get lynched?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:46 GMT
#887
I think MZ is okay for reasons previously stated, but also that his main reason for wanting to lynch me is not about any of the Day 1 stuff (which I can maybe understand), but instead my N1 comments (which are null or stupid at best imo). His constant questions is concerning, but I don't feel very strongly on him. Mostly lean scum.

But his post about not knowing what time the lynch is seems more townie than scum. At least, it seems genuine (which makes me think he's more likely town because I feel like scum tend to be more invested, more aware of deadlines, etc...). Makes me a bit hesitant.

But I think BC is a better option for today. I just get a huge mafia vibe from him.

Outside of his very early posts on Jock (5 days ago), he's only posted without advocating, which is exactly what he does in his mafia posts.

Take a look at his filter and posts that aren't asking questions or defending himself, and see what exists:

+ Show Spoiler +


On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.

Jock
Rels
FF

Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.

If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.


In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town

Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral

Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.


On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.


On May 04 2019 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
What a cluster fuck -_-

Everything I just read screams of a town bugs vs a town HF. You two need to stop funneling eachother and take a step back and breathe ffs.

TBH if you look based purely on activity since the flip the people based on absence that look the worst.

Pandain
Rels
Me

As we have all been mia. As much as me being at work then sleeping makes sense to me, enough people in mafia lie about why they aren't around to avoid the fos so meh.

IMO the shit pandain did when he came back into thread did not exonerate him. He was a top lynch pick of more than 1 person and all hes done is appear to basically claim town cred then bounce. Given that I was already suspicious of him and the whole attempting to claim town cred and vanishing looks slimy as fuck, hes red in my mind unless he can change my mind before he flips.

The thing with rels. He was "inactive" in thread in the end of the world mafia when he and I were on a team together until he couldn't be anymore. Even then he tried to fly under the radar. However he was stupidly active in the mafia QT.
as much as part of me wants to say hes red. Currently he just looks like he has 0 time and no motivation to play. As hes basically almost at the modkill point id leave him for that / wait and see if he appears just long enough to skirt the posting / voting requirements.


On May 04 2019 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also god help me cause im likely wrong somewhere in here.

Town /b]
VE
BC
FF

null - lean town
WBG
HF
MZ
Koshi

Null
Alakaslam

Mafia
Pandain
Grack
Rels


Essentially since 5 days he's only made list posts. No real energy, just bare posts that feign activity without actually showing an interest in changing or significantly influencing the game.


On May 04 2019 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
What a cluster fuck -_-


Also it's very small, but I'm like 90% certain he posted something almost identical to this when he was mafia in end of the world with me. Just bland demeaning criticism of the thread. It could be either alignment but it rubs me the wrong way.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:47 GMT
#888
Since page 6 there's been no convincing, no strong reads or pushes, anything. And this is from BC????
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 03 2019 23:49 GMT
#889
On May 04 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 07:56 Pandain wrote:
On May 04 2019 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 04 2019 07:53 Pandain wrote:
On May 04 2019 01:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a Jeep tell from MafiaScum, I'm sure I've explained it in your presence before.

Players who do things like congratulate the doctor on a successful save tend to be mafia. What Pandain is like the reverse of it, try to appear town by talking about how much it would suck to be mafia after the GF got killed.


This is a horrible "tell" . Also it would suck to be mafia. Like I would be beyond pissed if I was mafia, especially if HF is actually cop and checked bugs (which I 100% doubt because Bugs seems super super town to me)

how many mafia are left


It's a good question. I can't help but think Doc actually saved someone or a vet got shot, because let's realize that only one person died. And I think it would be super weird for mafia to have 1kp.

Anyway that doesn't answer your question. If I had to guess 2 more?


Wtf kind of theory is this by the way? Where does it say anything about any kind of extra mafia kp role in op? Are you trying really badly to fake a dumb tell?

I even had to read the op to make sure. I hooe you're impressed.


No my point is that only one person died. So are we just assuming that mafia has one kp? Probably not, then town would be hugely advantaged. So the fact that only one person died suggests there was a medic save or a vet got shot.
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