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On May 07 2019 03:11 wherebugsgo wrote: I should reread again since I didn’t get a chance to reread after the Koshi flip.
I think this is the most important thing you can do. This will likely solve the game imo.
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On May 07 2019 04:27 Fecalfeast wrote: Wbg why no vote?
MZ i thought we were playing the cooperation game while you get lynched but you're also not voting OR cooperating.
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Well. Anyone NOT see Endgame yet?
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Maybe I start spoiling Endgame every hour I don't hear from MEAPAK.
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Bah that's probably toeing the "outside betting" line, I'll resist. Don't fuck with me though.
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On May 07 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack. However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC. They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post) On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote: Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia. On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia. Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2. I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0. This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0. They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well. So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC. There you go VE Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do. Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons? To add to this, I did the same thing, so did most everyone. Why single out Pandain as the villain?
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On May 07 2019 09:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:On May 07 2019 08:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 06 2019 03:53 Grackaroni wrote: Koshi really has no investment in this game whatsoever at this point and he's usually an easy town read. I don't know if I've ever seen Koshi do this little in a game as town and he's doing it in a game where Vivax got modkilled night 1 as the mafia Godfather AND likely-town-WBG/HF/Rayn spent most of the game screaming at each other in thread.
I think Koshi may be the best bet for mafia at this point. I don't think scum makes this post. Grack's all over the place with his lynch choices and his bugs push seems out of place but I think I'm gonna confirm my townlean. Although I am going to point out that the bus is the thing that exists might text you to drive me crazy On a 4 or 5 man scum team sure, bus the shit out of an afk one, but I don't see grack as the kinda person to bus his roleblocker when the scum team is already down a Godfather. The broader premise of this statement is that the scum team is already down a Godfather and Pandain was one of a few people trying to get him lynched just before he was modkilled.
Your own logic says that Pandain isn't mafia - I mean sure, in a 4 or 5 man team bus the shit out of your Godfather...
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Also I'm not going to burn this temp pass I just gave Pandain based on Slam's paranoia about Pandain's scum play.
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On May 07 2019 09:07 Alakaslam wrote: Basically MZ made a good point I don’t think mafia do that either You have to remember: mafia know peoples' alignment. Don't clear him on his ability to correctly identify a town - the mafia can do that in their sleep. You can only catch them in them trying to find mafia - because they have to make you think that a townie is mafia somehow. They can say true statements all day long about all the townies. In fact, they're GOING to to try and gain allies.
Slam, think my sson.
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On May 07 2019 10:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe I start spoiling Endgame every hour I don't hear from MEAPAK. Jokes on you I know absolutely nothing about the Avengers.Something about a Thanos. In admitting this, truly the joke is on you.
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On May 07 2019 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:Why is Bugs clear? Effort, attempts to draw attention to Koshi (Roleblocker) all game.
It really is easier if you read dear boy.
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Like I'm like the town crier if nothing else you could Cliffs Notes the entire thread by just filtering me.
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My filter still has an All button too. Just FYI.
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Hey Bugs remember this interaction on D1?
It was just after the pile-on to Jock had started, EARLY in D1. Of note, he never voted, but it was a blatent enough to warrant Bugs mentioning it.
On May 01 2019 01:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Suddenly even happier with my decision. Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. I mean talking about how boring you are does nothing to help find scum and then you complain about the site playstyle? Your martyring is not really a good look 12 hours and 3 pages into a game
On May 01 2019 01:56 wherebugsgo wrote: MZ smelling blood in the water
On May 01 2019 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](https://worldwideinterweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/funny-surfing-pics.jpg) I would categorize all of the following posts as cheerleading the Jock lynch (while simultaneously trying to find another lynch.)
On May 01 2019 09:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 09:06 Holyflare wrote: What I got from Jock's mindset in his first mafia game is that he was afraid in the qt whenever someone called him out. He's used that, and the advice people gave him of "don't care what people say if they call you mafia" and gone to the other extreme scale of being bratty when called out. I'd associate that more with being new and mafia than Jock as town being lost on what to say. Especially with the insults to TL as a whole. I was just rereading Jock in End of the World because he screamed town that game to me but ended up being red. I mean look here: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:11 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 02 2019 10:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote: Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice I'm sorry but your username would bring the office into disrepute. Surely you jest. I am a well respected member of the community at large. Discrimination and prejudice based on choice of moniker disreputable in and of itself. 99% of my comments are in jest. Jesters are important as they remind kings and nobility of their mortality, fallibility and humanity. Kings fart just the same as the rest of us. This sort of disarming humor type stuff as well as polite questions and well written accusations is how I'd characterize his first game. His second game was similar except with fewer analysis posts. His thread entrance to this game was very jarring and different from both his scum and his town games thus far. The worst part is that it seems like he's trying to bait out the meta read with this comment: Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Suddenly even happier with my decision. Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. It reads like he knows he's playing different and is daring people to scum read him for it. If he hadn't played so similarly in his first two games despite being different alignments I'd be more willing to read his current stance as combative townie who isn't afraid of the spotlight but after looking at his two previous games and his own self aware jab at meta reads I'm more inclined to think he's scum trying to hide behind bravado.
On May 01 2019 09:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 01 2019 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2019 02:03 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm going to bed and will be back in 7-8 hours. If anyone reads this and wants my opinion later, feel free to ask. Same goes if you're feeling like the game is going slowly; let's discuss what we want to do about it, or at least the minimum we've seen so far. We don't have enough participation yet for D1 to go well IMO, and it's not easy to convince absentees nor is it easy to get scum out talking if town isn't either. Yeah I've got a question - is your resistance to the Jock lynch intentional or circumstantial? Like, I get that you're suspicious of MZ or whatever, but you say MZ "smells blood in the water", does that imply that you think Jock is town? I'm 99% sure at this point if I do absolutely nothing to push a different lynch, Jock will continue to get suspicion and probably die. I'm giving him outs and the benefit of the doubt because I'm not confident he's scum. Honestly to me the weirdest thing he's done so far has been his last exit: I gotta go to band practice I'll be back in a few hours Only for him to never come back. It's what, 1 am in the UK? So we can't really expect him to come back and defend himself any time soon. Anyway, my opinion has always been that having a single wagon on day 1 is rarely good. No need for me to contribute to that if I see something better, anyway. Completely agree having single wagons D1 is bad. I obviously am currently standing with the Jock suspicions crowd but what other names should we be considering? Me? What do you think of Grack voting Rels, is that another avenue worth exploring?
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I think it's worth noting how many words it ended up taking MZ to get to calling Jock scum, only to never vote for the guy. Even after talking about "wagons" and "multiple wagons".
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Like, townies VOTE. It's what townies DO because townies ONLY get to vote. MZ you're VT right? Fucking, and you didn't VOTE? GET OUTTA HEEEEAH!!
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On May 07 2019 11:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, townies VOTE. It's what townies DO because townies ONLY get to vote. MZ you're VT right? Fucking, and you didn't VOTE? GET OUTTA HEEEEAH!! See how dumb it sounds when I try? But I do have a point, as a townie, EVEN AS ONE WITH A POWER, I made sure to always have my vote where my mouth is, because A) I don't want to be accused of SHIT and B) I don't wanna be modkilled. AND I'M A TOWNIE!!
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However as mafia, I'd be incentivized to be more patient - more hesitant. I may be more apt to side with thread sentiment rather than "my own feelings", you know?
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On May 07 2019 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:as soon as slam started talking about pandain a post jumped into my mind from pandain. I will find it Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 05:52 Pandain wrote:On May 06 2019 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:Also koshi said he was going to be 'rayn 2.0' with rayn's list. This should probably mean the rest of rayn's list is incorrect? On May 03 2019 05:54 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax Wherebugsgo Pandain (Fecalfeast)
VE is never mafia for anyone who will question it later. He is just too invested in teh game, i think that was the only unexplained read i had. Goodluck. ##Vote wherebugsgo MZ sounds like a good place to start. Low activity for a newb on a team of afk scum sounds totally accurate Unfortunately I think it is a huge boost for Bugs and to a lesser extent me but since you were so far down the line it doesn't help you that much. You were more an addendum than anything else. When he made the post it seemed like he was more worried about pointing out that it doesn't clear me than anything else. Which I disliked obviously. I don't know. I'm rereading pandains day 1 and he has some weird posts with our current information. I have a bunch of tabs open but here are some highlights Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:16 Pandain wrote:On May 02 2019 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 02 2019 00:44 Pandain wrote: FIXED POST I am confused about why Jock suddenly became an asshole in this thread when the last two games he was super nice and if anything apologetic. Also his blogs are fun to read so I'm sort of shocked. I don't think he's a bad lynch and might switch to him if the votes are close. Also this is concerning: On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote: Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. And then proceedes to be super lukewarm about scum reads and doesn't scumhunt at all. You really think mafia claims this and then does the complete opposite? You'd need to be really dumb if you didn't realise this is exactly where it gets you and i wouldn't say that's a really good strategy. But it's okay, maybe the 70% of the game can talk about something else after D1 since you're gonna have your lynch. Mafia literally does it all the time. It's precisely inherently mafia to say good things and then not do them or follow them Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote: Also more importantly it's not a dumb silly contradiction that could be overlooked. It's a mindset contradiction Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 03:18 Pandain wrote: I mean he could be town perhaps even likely. Im not even voting him. But it's day 1 so do what you do Look how self-conscious and aware of how he's being perceived pandain is in this triple-post. Reads like it's coming from a mafia mindset.
Here's a pretty odd contradiction coupled with some equally odd association with koshi Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 20:33 Pandain wrote: I don't really have any mafia reads, but I think VE is town from his carefree and open posting, and Koshi for same reason. I think that's a pretty good start for day 1.
I'm going to vote Rels because he's done absolutely nothing, and he did the same exact thing last time when I was mafia with him. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 00:53 Pandain wrote: I think Wherebugsgo is solid town, not even learn town. He's most active person, is clearly actively reading and re-reading and using that to inform his view in a logical way (even if i disagree sometimes)
Super strong town lean on Koshi as well for his carefree posting. They just seem townie. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 05:04 Pandain wrote: I wouldn't at all be surprised to see two scum between BC, VE, HF, bugs, and vivax So shortly before grouping these 5 players as some weird cell containing 2 scum, he called two of its members town. Not townleans either. Two of the other members have flipped town This, coupled with the fact that we have already established that vivax's first post in the scum QT was likely instructions to bus him, means that pandain through leading a vivax lynch was setting up to lynch into a group of 4 towns. Pretty odd indeed. I will now mention that he happened to call flipped-scum koshi town twice in these posts but will not speak further on such a simple point. I have some kinda shitty stuff too if you're interested Okay like, I have a raging town-boner because of this post.
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You know what?
Go for it.
We need a competing wagon anyway, I may be wrong about Pandain, and I may end up being convinced once the MZ/Pandain clash actually begins tomorrow.
I rescind my temp-ass on Pandain. I will now consider him for a lynch today also.
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