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Just did move last week and got the interwebs back yesterday. not sure if this is the bestest idea ever, cause i want to catch up on gaming and still have moving related shit to sort out, buuuuut: /in no promises for hyperactivity though.  @onegu: please dont give me a nuke  edit: me typing bad | ||
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On March 28 2019 20:19 Pandain wrote: Day 1: 1 mafia Day 2: 1 Mafia Day 3: 2 Mafia Day 4: 3 Mafia Day 5: 5 mafia Day 6: 8 mafia Day 7: 13 Mafia Day 8: 21 Mafia (GG) Is this the plan? I just thought player slots 1,2,3,5,8,13,21 are gonna be scum. well... prolly not. Would make the game a tad too easy i guess.  Maybe its the kp formula? Maybe there are powers that only work on players that are either a fibo or not a fibo? *shrugs* we'll see | ||
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On March 29 2019 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: Fibonacci has more than just a sequence of numbers named after him Oh right. I think I had to do something with a Fibonacci heap back in uni at one point. At least that rings a bell. *Shrugs* | ||
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On March 31 2019 12:17 Vivax wrote: lmao I am also allergic to cat hair, but it's not a problem as long as you keep it shaved. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/funny-ginger-longhaired-cat-groomed-with-haircut-is-sitting-on-a-soft-picture-id973686176?k=6&m=973686176&s=612x612&w=0&h=Tn-I1lEG_LrK2VeP4g5nTOZ_MLav2PVJO7bknvSjgCk=) this. | ||
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On April 02 2019 23:15 Half the Sky wrote: gl hf. Should be entertaining. Also mods, I encourage you to give disformation a nuke at least go /in then, so I can nuke you if I get one. :p | ||
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On April 06 2019 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I get married in October so I know exactly how happy you are. Congrats Oh wow. Congrats to both of you. Not in favour of the guillotine too French for my Italian tastes. | ||
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then you could provide some fresher samples, so we could get better reads on you? *slightly confusedformation* Not that i am in the mood to read games i wasnt part of tbh, just sayin' | ||
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On April 06 2019 07:56 Alakaslam wrote: But was Pisa the HRE then? Think so. Think during that time north and middle Italy were part of the HRE. On April 06 2019 07:57 LightningStrike wrote: Dis you got a nuke this time? I. Got. Tons. | ||
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buuuut jockmcplop 1 - Holyflare 0 | ||
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On April 06 2019 08:40 Holyflare wrote: nobody from my town faction says this unless they are a different faction entirely which they'd only assume from their role damdred also has a "here to make friends vibe" with his comment to LS. can be role related though. so not sure on that. but why grack? what you think of Eywa-? | ||
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I mean... like come on a oneline would be nice? maybe? | ||
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well. then: mayhaps enlighten us blind fools? | ||
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On April 06 2019 08:55 Holyflare wrote: slam could be mafia though, seems a bit forced that disfo read to piggyback on me no idea what is supposed to be that scummy in the post from me, but kinda w/e. a oneliner on the gracken would still be appreciated. | ||
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V. Good chance of being 3rd party i'd say. in hindsight my comment on damdy was a tad ass. but that was the first impression i got. the friendly vibe. buuut in hindsight cant tell if he is one of the guys ls was looking for. bleh. _still_ v. good chance at being 3p. 3p just got 3p on their mind. or like a alt wincon where they need to team up for or something. | ||
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ksc had a bit of an angry vibe earlier in the game with his vote on ff, i usually interpret that as scummy, but kinda want to see what he does when he comes back. think i'll drop the damdy thing and see what he does when he comes back too. | ||
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On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote: Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die. For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die. But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win. LS I do t want to ever die. ugh. Didn't really consider town wanting to kill town. that makes my role stuff actually super damn hard. xD | ||
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but its like 02:41 here, so ill go to bed for now. | ||
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@Eywa-: why u voting HF after agreeing with him on damdy earlier on? | ||
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On April 06 2019 09:43 disformation wrote: Oh hey, just saw: @Eywa-: why u voting HF after agreeing with him on damdy earlier on? ah nvm figured it out. too late to play mafia. going to bed for reals now. xD sry fir the clutter | ||
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On April 06 2019 10:06 Holyflare wrote: has done absolutely nothing even though the game has taken a more scum hunting approach and he's trying to force names out essentially which I think is a net negative Thanks bae. *nods* the thing is, at least from what I remember Graco is a fairly fluffy player, do you think that changed recently? @ls: rayn actually had a short answer on why he thinks HF is scum. Look at his filter again or I can dig it up. | ||
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On April 06 2019 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol. I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid). | ||
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also not a super fan of VE's vote on me cause of his wording. On April 06 2019 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Like gimme dat Admiral's Platta! I'll lynch disfo I guess, he's the weird rolefishy guy early right? Mkay and I can blame you lata. Slam you da man. sounds a bit like "yeah sure ill vote that guy, who was it again?". but ill grant that the role related stuff from me was supra bad in hindsight. got encouraged too much by LS calling out to his friends and didnt realize that LS in contrast to me wasnt directly going for the _role_. but we too late now for taksie backsies. i got slight town vibes from hf calling me out on that btw. also got town vibes from rayn for his reaction on my damdred stuff. | ||
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there is damdy too, who seems to have a strange role and hasnt talked about much else. | ||
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I usually try to get something decent to read or binge watch to distract me from that and some nice snacks and drinks. that being said i think im liking ve more now . slightly confused why mocsta picked the ksc post as the worst post over some of my posts. xD | ||
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On April 07 2019 04:57 Grackaroni wrote: Disfo is also on my scumdar and I don't see why anyone is calling Rayn town atm. touche. esp. given that i had very much the opposing reaction to ksc's "rambly" post. agree with you on ksc's post on ve though. also not digging that eywa- has dodged the question rayn/hf asked him. | ||
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think someone even explained fefe's comment on LS which you had as one of the reasons you found him scummy. | ||
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the ppl i have leans on are grack, ksc, eywar-, but nothing solid. not sure if damdy counts but would like him to explain the faction stuff and do like some scumhunting or we. unfortunately i also have a bunch of nulls, cause only a handful of points or something (eg mocsta). | ||
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On April 07 2019 06:33 Alakaslam wrote: That it is sort of over analytical and also, in the context of some of his self aggrandizing statements (more along the “I am so town” than along the “I am so badass/ I am like HolyFlare” line) make that look. mh dunno not really seeing it. :/ imo the good posts by VE were after migs posts. funnily enough mig als had the same reaction to the fefe post as jock. | ||
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On April 07 2019 06:42 Holyflare wrote: Grack pretty scummy yeah. Effectively the only thing he's done this game is defend damdred with the reasoning that I mentioned factions first and damdred has been forthright but that didn't involve any critical thinking whatsoever and certainly didn't give any scum reads of the people he was criticising. Dunno if that makes him actually mafia though. Not really sure in general on anyone really. Just building out my town circle. Think palmar looks marginally worse for saying tw/rayn are town for role pm stuff but not including ff and then not realising my town circle is exclusively those people that looked good from that interaction though. I don't even get the tw is town thing. mh? plamar only has like two posts with "holy shit" and "cu tomorrow". you mean mea_zip? | ||
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On April 07 2019 07:02 Holyflare wrote: Oh it was pandain. They both start with Pa so close enough. oh wow. my radar -> . . . . that guy -> | ||
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gonna ##vote: pandain | ||
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On April 07 2019 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know i am town and if TW (and mz) is town he has succesfully fucked up three of his possible mislynches for no reason. Its not a slam dunk read but yeah.. Not a horrible point, but he has this part where he kinda lessens the impact and leaves himself a bit space. See the bolded: On April 07 2019 04:32 Pandain wrote: Completely agree that the way Rayne and TW talked about their role heavily suggests their town. It's really hard to explain and isn't a guarantee, but it gives me a strong gut feeling. I also like how active TW has been. Because Meapak pointed this out he also gives me town vibes as well. Might be a bit nick picky on my end. I often do similar stuff out of habit. | ||
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the stuff on m_z seems solid, but I still like some votes/pressure on pandain. his filter is basically "hey im here; reading" and 4h later he basically +1s a dude and adds a low effort tr on tw. really looks like low effort/trying to stay under the radar scum to me. don't think both of em are scum though. at least it would be super bleh from pandain to just +1 his scum mate. xD | ||
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On April 07 2019 20:28 Mocsta wrote: maybe but first do the courtesy of opening damdred filter. - he has what... 5 posts? Disfo, you deserve better than the shit Palmar served you. should have been a bit more specific: day 1 on a weekend. fair assesment. the thing is i didnt find palmars post to be horrible. just a bit bleh since that was already talked about a bit. so can he be scum? yeah. Am I feeling strong about that? not really. | ||
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On April 07 2019 21:54 Tubesock wrote: Not feeling the MiG lynch at all. Nor the Palmar one. I’m more interested in Eywa. Anyone want to talk about him? regular reminder that Eywa still hasnt explained his tr on rayn despite being asked to multiple times. Otherwise I also think his opening posts regarding meta etc were pretty weird. so i have a lean on him, but nothing that feels solid. meanwhile: On April 07 2019 21:55 Holyflare wrote: Aha, so it's even worse!!! 12 minutes between the TMI posts, we're all wrong! :D 16 since last TMI post to accusations. He can't think there are several if there are: A) Only two B) Both standpoints are contradictory Pretty good person to lynch if you ask me. think ill switch to the mz guy. ##vote: mzguy | ||
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On April 07 2019 22:21 Vivax wrote: MZ wagon doesn't really convince me. Feel like there is a bunch of opportunists hopping on. Naming disfo and Slam. well what do you think of the arguments against mz? also not entirely sure how i am opportunistic tbh | ||
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think im getting a headache. time for an aspirin. -.- other random note: i somehow have a feeling we will have we will get in situations were ppl dont want to vote for certain ppl cause they think they are in the same faction and/or need them for their alt win con. slightly annoying. | ||
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@palmar what you think of the m_z stuff? | ||
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*facepalmar* On April 07 2019 22:47 Vivax wrote: I think MiG has the best odds of flipping mafia just for his entry post, and Damdred or LS are good candidates for lynch as well. To find out more about this multiple faction thingy mostly. eh. not sure if lynching for info is that much of a good idea. damdred did 0 scumhunting though. +what palmar wrote. | ||
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best votes atm: damdy, m_z leans: grack bunch of ppl that need to come back and post/answer questions like mig, eywa etc... | ||
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ls saying he is a recruiter gave ma a heartattack. thought he could convert ppl. seems he only can put ppl in a qt... whew. | ||
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On April 08 2019 00:02 Holyflare wrote: actually works if he's mafia too I'll get on it kinda was expecting a follow up. slightly disappoint. On April 08 2019 00:52 Holyflare wrote: Just find mafia and scum reads and post about it instead? Don't get it. this. On April 08 2019 01:15 Vivax wrote: We have three options: 1. Lynch MiG for squeaky clean entrance post with complaints about VE playstyle. 2. Lynch Kelsier for making it a priority to townread HF based on an his agreement on a view that turns out not to be his own. 3. Lynch into LS/Damdred/Grack for being probably third party. They are the only non italians here methinks. ksc also had the angry-ish tone at the start and the overexplainy post after that... | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:08 Tubesock wrote: What makes you think Vivax is towny? I’m not seeing it at all. He’s not angry and he’s not acumreading me like normal town vivax does. normally at least one person in the game wants to strangle vivax if hes town. didnt see it this game. i also dont hate the m_z post on rayn. | ||
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On April 07 2019 23:25 KelsierSC wrote: Don't understand ls's reasoning about the build up being quick at all. Just looks like a reason not to vote mz. Mig seemed ok so I'll vote m&s if it's the other wagon. ## vote m&s can someone explain that mz vote by ksc to me? is imo the only time ksc mentions that guy. | ||
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On April 08 2019 05:11 Grackaroni wrote: Mig seemed ok so he voted the other wagon. brilliant. lets murder this guy i have no read on. | ||
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On April 08 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote: Thinking about a mocsta lynch because he kept defending mz while agreeing with everything. Not sure how I feel about it though. took a glance at mocsta's filter. remembered he uses #731 stuff instead of links or quotes. is taht a valid reason to lynch someone? | ||
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On April 08 2019 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Meeehhh...it just feels like it could be resistance to a mafia lynch. Nah I'm stick it out for now. Palmar is at his worst D1 don't listen to his LIES. mh dunno man. all scum afk? we dont even have a proper 2nd wagon. | ||
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but doesnt it overall feel like there is a lot resistance on anyone? partially that is cause the subfactions. the damdred thing has very little steam. the mz one is also fairly slow. though ksc kinda just hopped onto the end. and the we have a ton of ppl with 1-2 votes on them. and a lot of ppl are kinda voteable tbh xD | ||
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bonus points for making me laugh early. was confused by his read on you, but his explanation was okayish if I remember correctly. eywa was his other big scumread so switching to eywa kinda makes sense. eywas big stuff on the setup and roles and stuff was pretty wtf. though that also is a good excuse to vote for someone as scum. so overall meh. think like ksc, damdred, mz are more voteable. like maybe sent or mig if you want to go for afk/low activity. which i wouldnt hugely mind. | ||
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hf mentioned mocsta and i did a look at that filter. also another meh. like this is the first and only mention of vivix in his filter: On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote: Palmar vivax mafia Mig maybe mafia Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache. I forgot about ksc. No idea Goinf to bed Going to settle on vivax ##vote: vivax | ||
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On April 07 2019 21:51 Mocsta wrote: #720 I had to check could couldnt believe I missed that (18hr vs 2min). Look its actually 34min, but point is clear. MZ had access to both quotes at he time of his first post. ok. SO MY LAST hurdle for MZ is that I have low confidence to read him.. i mean, last game I thought he was lock scum at the end... Are you confidently crapshooting with MZ, or actually think hes lock scum? On April 07 2019 21:55 Holyflare wrote: Aha, so it's even worse!!! 12 minutes between the TMI posts, we're all wrong! :D 16 since last TMI post to accusations. He can't think there are several if there are: A) Only two B) Both standpoints are contradictory Pretty good person to lynch if you ask me. after thgat mocsta just ignored the topic? | ||
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On April 08 2019 06:32 Fecalfeast wrote: dude can you read his filter again it's 2 pages jocks i guess? | ||
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i mean i kinda skimmed it. i mean if you mean that one: On April 07 2019 07:55 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm not changing my vote from FF until he does something pro-town. imo town is more fluid in their reads and opions so him switching to the other person he had a scum read on imo isnt a huge deal? newer parts of his filter dont have much in the way of reads, but im not really seeing anything i would lynch him for? | ||
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4 afk and neither of the wagons is here for last words. -.- | ||
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at least we have something resembling wagons now. @hf: you still around, think you wanted to come back and rethink? | ||
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4 damdy 4 eywa 3 palmar imo atm | ||
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at least we kinda reduced kp? though some/one of the romans could be scum too i guess. ~~ | ||
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On April 08 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote: the romans mafia? don't remember any romans claiming On April 06 2019 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hello fellow Romans!! | ||
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found another one: On April 08 2019 04:26 Eywa- wrote: The most reasonable answer is that I'm actually a roman recruiter or pleb... Both are false, I win with LS or with town, but if town refuses my offer, I guess I'll take the 1/3 shot that LS picks me. | ||
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On April 08 2019 07:29 Holyflare wrote: think mocsta has a very decent chance at being mafia after that mz flip ah right cause he kept defending mz and just ignored the topic after your final post after i noticed earlier. sounds good. | ||
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On April 08 2019 07:39 Grackaroni wrote: I think there are mafia Romans and Arabs. yeah. i sink rayn was fairly unhappy with his role, so i think hes more likely town imo. | ||
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big game and a lot of ppl (wisely) havent talked about their powers at all. | ||
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On April 08 2019 17:35 Holyflare wrote: Ah nvm it wasn't disfo that said they keywords, carry on. Mafia: kelsier/mocsta/palmar/rayn(?) Maybe replace rayn for sentinel. Dunno how many mafia. 5? agreeing on ksc. brought him up a few times yesterday. maybe i should have actually pushed it. what you got on palmar? still headache btw. fml. -.- | ||
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though 1 or 2 posts gave me a slight feeling he was trying to buddy me? | ||
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On April 08 2019 18:17 disformation wrote: mocsta is being super unchill atm. ah never mind. | ||
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eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. | ||
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On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. | ||
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but ive also see him be afk as fuck as town. so he has both a history of being very good d1 and being afk as fuck d1. so your statement is not false, but you leave out 50% of the story. | ||
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On April 08 2019 20:22 disformation wrote: yeah, damdred can be really good as town day 1 and i was hoping he would come back and crap a twon rainbow all over the thread and make the game easier. so i agree that he has done 0 scum hunting d1. but ive also see him be afk as fuck as town. so he has both a history of being very good d1 and being afk as fuck d1. so your statement is not false, but you leave out 50% of the story. so yeah damdred is not looking good and you can be right. but i also have to entertain the possibility that you went for an easy person to push and conveniently left out that the guy has a bit of a history of being afk as fuck as town. | ||
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On April 08 2019 20:33 disformation wrote: yeah we have a bunch of shady low activity players. shooting into them would be appreciated. On April 08 2019 20:37 Palmar wrote: Sentinel looks really, really bad. *cough**wink* | ||
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On April 08 2019 20:54 Jockmcplop wrote: Posts where mocsta mentioned Vivax: That's all from his entire filter. What a shitty vote. No reasoning, no purpose. beentheredonethat On April 08 2019 06:27 disformation wrote: bleh. slight headache isnt helping. hf mentioned mocsta and i did a look at that filter. also another meh. like this is the first and only mention of vivix in his filter: maybe i should stop trying to figure out everyone at once and go one person at a time like plammar. | ||
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also dont think ill be able to get my alt win con either, so ill get screwed over by town fucking over town for their alt win con. <3 | ||
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obv cant fault you ppl for going for you win con. and town screwing over town for 2nd win cons imo happens quite a bit in themed games. i also wasnt too careful with my role... sooooo... whatevs. guess ill try to find some scummers and see how far i get. xD | ||
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On April 08 2019 23:19 Mocsta wrote: This is what i dont get Rayn / damdred / eywa all same role supposedly. Rayn opens with needing to kill faction Damdred expands this Nothing in eywa talks about killing off faction the thing is: i dont think all hindus/romans are the same role. eg assassin and recruiter that we know of. so some ppl might need to kill ppl while others dont? | ||
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On April 09 2019 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: mocsta wanted to but not really. you are close to the list too i think that is okay, dont think im playing very well this game. | ||
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more like stabby stabby n stuff | ||
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wtf does "Grackaroni has disappeared from the Republic." mean? | ||
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On April 09 2019 07:12 KelsierSC wrote: so ff killed LS. have to assume jock was the scum kill as eywa was pretty good lynch bait. no clue how eywa died though. roman assasin? are you even reading? On April 09 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote: ok so since actions can no longer be changed I'm the roman assassin and i assassinated LS. I apparently don't get removed if I win so I'm still here to play for town's wincon | ||
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just for shits n giggles: Final Day One Vote Count Meapak_Ziphh (6): VisceraEyes, Holyflare, Damdred (6): Palmar, Tubesock, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Grackaroni, Pandain Eywa- (4): raynpelikoneet, Meapak_Ziphh, Jockmcplop, LightningStrike Palmar (2): KelsierSC (1): Vivax Vivax (1): Mocsta Not voting (1): Damdred the eywa- wagon looks hilarious | ||
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and i dont think we got any like really useful information? and what the fuck happened with grack? sooo... we gonna lynch sent or ksc or what? | ||
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On April 09 2019 08:21 Mocsta wrote: I treat this as unlikely HF went about Day1 as per his textbook town-style. What makes you say "the" inquisitor? Cause jockmcplop's pm says he wins if he kills the inquisitor with his power. | ||
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On April 09 2019 08:22 disformation wrote: Oh wait. Possible scum shot eywa cause they want the Romans to win & get removed from the game asap. That would at least explain that shot. Or someone wanted to prevent eywa from being recruited by ls in case the Roman assassin wouldn't shoot ls. | ||
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On April 09 2019 08:28 Holyflare wrote: Thought we established it's only me that gets removed. Romans and arabs don't. Oh right I'm an idiot. Ls pm doesn't mention removals at all. Nvm then. Prolly should get some sleep for reelz. | ||
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On April 09 2019 15:15 Mocsta wrote: Yeah I recall you made some spiel post about it but yeah i agree this is quite reminiscient of mathematician win-con "Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die. For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die. But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win. LS I do t want to ever die." So... Hindu Recruiter = LS Assassin = MZ Math 1 = Eywa- Math 2 = Damdred Roman Recruiter = ?? Assassin = FecalFeast - No counter claim -> Assume not mafia interspersed Math 1 = ?? Rayn ?? Math 2 = ? Non-Inquisitor Poisoner = Jock Rest Tubesock - One concern I had was #859 as prior to that I didn't think TS engaged me as if I was townread. Holyflare - I want to believe that his appeal to emotion about anti-town role and cultist play is too low a blow for scum. So lock town. Pandain - Lazy meta read compared to last game Mig - Vivax - I noted that #908 was a good post. I want to see how Vivax follows up on KSC KSC - Nothing redeeming other than perhaps #202 TW - Seems to be counterpart of HF, as didnt claim whatever happened to Grack?? Slam - No idea VE - His posts add up to town for me Grack - #305 contradicts his mathematician claim. Palmar - I'm still waiting for more disfo - Did he send Grack away? I thought hes been pretty consistently invested all game. light town read. Sentinel - As I mentioned before, after the shit show of last game, i woudl expect more from a town roll this game. Mocsta - ?? On April 06 2019 08:06 Grackaroni wrote: Hello... Don't mind me. I'm just an Arabic/Hindu mathematician going about my day... Anyone care for some mathematics? yeah... unfortunately we cant grill and lunch that guy. though... does anyone have confirmation we cant vote him? On April 09 2019 16:34 Tubesock wrote: This is super bizarre to me. I’m looking at the nightkills and thinking what the fuck is going on? FF kills LS, easy enough. Eywa killed by the Inguisitor Jock is hoping to kill, and Grack vanishes. Why would Mafia kill Jock? That’s a really weird nk, and why’d Grack vanish without a flip? MiG- Yo HF! Why you alive? I’m voting Mig. i think the inquisitor wants to kill italian mathematicians as per jocks pm. You have learned that the great mathematicians of Pisa, including Fibonacci, are being targeted by an Inquisition operative. I am guessing that like the roman and hindu assassins he only kills if he hits one of his targets? and given this cluster fuck the inqui at least started as town imo. super strong role for scum if they manage to convert him. *sighs* On April 09 2019 11:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whats the point of winning if you dont leave the game? well. if scum is really a cult and a fuckton of town gets removed for reaching their alt win con, then i can be gg real fast. | ||
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On April 09 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote: If you are serious that there might only be 1 mafia and we have alternate wincons in case we lynch them then fuck this even more lol. i have no idea how to balance this cult / conversion stuff. but i guess scum has like 2-3 ppl. or at least enough that town cant randomly win like d2. that is also part of why i think all of that shiny kp is town vs town. so we cant shoot the entire scum team n1 on accident. at least until scum manages to convert the roles with kp... | ||
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On April 09 2019 18:12 disformation wrote: i have no idea how to balance this cult / conversion stuff. but i guess scum has like 2-3 ppl. or at least enough that town cant randomly win like d2. that is also part of why i think all of that shiny kp is town vs town. so we cant shoot the entire scum team n1 on accident. at least until scum manages to convert the roles with kp... or they convert the roles that can be shot. eg scum converts a maths guy and the inquisitor stabs that guy to deaf. | ||
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On April 09 2019 21:30 Holyflare wrote: All the mafia just afk while we infight. There's literally 0 reason to ever recruit an active player to mafia when we're not lynching the lurkers and nobody is playing :D dunno. outside of ts vs mocsta just now, i mostly see ppl trying to decide which lurker to lunch? | ||
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On April 08 2019 06:50 Mig wrote: I would vote palmar, how is he so useless? It seems like he hasnt even read the thread. I was busy the entire weekend and I made time to read it! Palmars only read is the guy who hasnt posted for 40 hours. Maybe palmar is lazy/worthless now but years ago he was good. not sure im buying the bolded sentence | ||
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On April 10 2019 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: excuse me but give me a good reason why mafia does not shoot eywa? fine. but who shot jock? | ||
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On April 10 2019 01:10 Mocsta wrote: Tubesock is inquisition I dont understand this hider/helper thing Is it a smaller version of the assassin/recruiter game? Like if ksc is a pm target.. is he mafia or not? I dont get it Sentinel still looks good.. how do you know tubesocks is inquisiton? i only know that i win if x collaborates with y and can give ppl hints as to who is y. | ||
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cause we are already borderline on the verge of having them to claim and use their power before they just get killed by inquisitor man. though ironically that would help my win con... and fuck town if both are removed and town... | ||
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On April 10 2019 01:31 Holyflare wrote: I really think the person I'm looking for is mafia. I can use my power in the day cycle. If they were town we both claim and win. Unless that person also has a win con to not get found and is town and i don't think that would be the case. ah. see i though you were y, so i wanted to tell you you were y, so the information doesnt fall into the wrong hands. cause i thought someone wanted you ded. was right bout that at least. | ||
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It's like: you win if role X and role y cooperate. You can target a player in the night and he'll receive a hint on who y is during the day. Ve has the same only he's giving hints on who X is. | ||
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I work for X. I give ppl hints on who y is. Be works for y. He gives ppl hints who X is. We win if X and y make a sex tape together | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm just gonna ignore it and we can lynch kelsier :D he can claim Y if he wants and then I can test it and remove us both from the game doesnt it remove only you if you are wrong? | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:38 Holyflare wrote: In which instance you lynch kelsier for lying. aight. if you want me to claim who im working for so we can figure out the message tell me. | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:54 Palmar wrote: Im sick as a dog. Not doing anything today did you get a message?! | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm so okay wtf disfo how have the triangles anything to do with anything? :D will explain when shit is confirmed and everything. | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:19 Holyflare wrote: I work in the imaginary! You might be for meeeee wait wait wait. thought that was a feint. figured you were italian | ||
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by reading my role pm and using mah brain | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure you got bussed with me confirmed by disfo? I'm E's PI. So that seems to be correct. | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: umm.. should my letter start with "Dear E_____________"? disfo? since I need to help E find mathemathician y. yeah should be like: Dear E_____: the dude you are looking for is there yes | ||
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we have 3 messenger boys 3. 3 maths guys. 4 hindus, 4 romans. 1 inquisitor. 1 anti-inquisitor. apparently a busdriver or something. thats already like 17/21. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I think it's a menage a trois I think Pythagoras, Euclid and a third as yet unnamed guy are all trying to collab. Whoever collabs first, they and their PIs win. The other guy and his PI don't get to be in the sex tape. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:30 disformation wrote: Can you colab during the day and night or only day? | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:37 Holyflare wrote: Myself is just during the day. Presume grack was one of the 3 and was night only. Guess that stops us overlapping. Maybe the 3rd one is mafia and can just do it whenever and not get removed? I have to announce it in the thread though so not sure how grack got away with it? Maybe grack was mafia after all and I baited him hard. my point is: what if grack (regardless of being a maths guy or not) got hit with something else and will return after this day. because you know... he didnt flip. and we know he lied about being a hindu/arab | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Ya Euclid is the mafia one. He's italian (Genovian :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) huh? Euclid (/ˈjuːklɪd/; Ancient Greek: Εὐκλείδης – Eukleídēs, pronounced [eu̯.kleː.dɛːs]; fl. 300 BC), sometimes called Euclid of Alexandria[1] to distinguish him from Euclid of Megara, was a Greek mathematician, often referred to as the "founder of geometry"[1] or the "father of geometry". | ||
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but i also feel that it was not 100% clear if the inquisition could kill hindu/arabs/romans or only other maths guys. but yeah i think inquisition could be a 3rd P SK kinda deal | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:20 disformation wrote: I am helping Euclid find Fibonacci. | ||
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though i think i know who Euclid is. but *shrugs* whoever maths lord gets his shit together first wins i guess | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:15 Pandain wrote: At this point it really seems like me/VE/disinfo are town. Rayn and HF are town. If mig or hf(unlikely) is not who they say they are they will be easy lynches tomorrow. Everyone heavily involved in this seems town to me. I'm probably going to vote sentinel or something honestly. the romans weve seen are town. the hindu/arabs weve seen are town. i think this messenger/maths guys triangle thing is looking town. thats like 8+6 ppl. anti inquisitor is town. inquisitor might be 3rd party. someone is a busdriver who might be town too. 17/21 scum can be like 2-3 ppl with a recruiter for all we know. lynching into the unknowns has a super high chance to hit scum. so sentinel looks like a great lynch. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:24 Alakaslam wrote: No, my role is rayn’s We are Romana who don’t like the changes fibionacci and the Hindus are bringing to italy oh. nvm. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:28 Tumblewood wrote: disfo if u didn't figure that out by now you are bad @ mafia nah i got it. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:02 disformation wrote: dammit i think ill lose. though i think i know who Euclid is. but *shrugs* whoever maths lord gets his shit together first wins i guess took me a bit though tbh | ||
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ksc was the one who removed grack: On April 10 2019 05:27 KelsierSC wrote: i bussed grak out of this day phase. so his night actions couldnt resolve same for actions against him. he's in a QT with me and i guess he comes back next phase i win with town but my role doesnt seem to have anything to do with maths or pythagoras or romans, some shit about unravelling lovers. | ||
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On April 10 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote: If grack's night actions can't resolve then he's not mafia unless there's more than one because i still got shot by someone. true.or some of their/his shit is factional. i also forgot sentinel in my list. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:19 Vivax wrote: I feel left out. My role doesn't involve additional win cons. Why, considering it isn't even half of the game you should have a scumread on multiple peeps on that wagon. is that an accidental scum claim? so far imo EVERYONE had a 2nd wincon | ||
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guess like half the game or more dies today to soup stuff or alt win cons or whatevs. tad worrysome that scum apparently got someone converted? so we might still lose, but i had fun today. so i have won the game already. | ||
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fluff text all about italy. so im yo imma refer to the greek master of geometry like: On April 06 2019 08:28 disformation wrote: am looking for a dude whos super into geometry and triangles btw. On April 06 2019 08:35 disformation wrote: wasnt pythagoras greek? though if you dig real deep: Euclid's Elements: Books I–IV and VI discuss plane geometry. Many results about plane figures are proved, for example "In any triangle two angles taken together in any manner are less than two right angles." (Book 1 proposition 17 ) and the Pythagorean theorem "In right angled triangles the square on the side subtending the right angle is equal to the squares on the sides containing the right angle." (Book I, proposition 47) so since in my head there was no pytagoras in the game, i thought euclid would figure it out | ||
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On April 10 2019 06:47 Tumblewood wrote: i did. did you notice when i said, "i'm disfo's guy" yeah i saw but i was slightly confused cause i thought hf was fibonacci and you said you are not hf's counterpart. On April 09 2019 15:22 Tumblewood wrote: i am not the counterpart of HF. grack said i was HF's guy, i have no reason to believe i am that. if anything i am disfo's guy only figured it out earlier when i realized that hf is not fibonacci. | ||
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felt it might be important for town to figure out what happened with the busdriver stuff. should have maybe been a bit more subtle at the beginning of that though. but i was sure rayn got my message. | ||
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Sub game 1: Hindu/Arab Vs Rome Each of the two have 1 assassin, 1 recruiter, 2 maths guys Assassin needs to kill the recruiter of the opposite faction. Recruiter needs to get the maths guys of his faction into a at. Maths guys need to get into the qt and or remove the entire opposing faction. Note: assassin's get bullets refunded if they hit the opposite faction. See m_z role. Arab/Hindu: damdy, ls, m_z, eywa Romans: rayn, mocsta, slam, ff Ff shot ls. Mocsta tried to recruit rayn, cause you prevented that. [Hr] Sub game 2: math love triangle Fibonacci wants to bone Pythagoras. Euclid wants to bone Fibonacci and Pythagoras wants to bone Fibonacci. If a pair bones they win and get removed from the game. Each of the 3 has an Investigator who is helping them out. You got one of the Investigator messages. Fibbers is Mig. Pytha is HF. Euclid is TW. Helpers: VE, Pandain, Disco Additionally there is an Inquisitor who needs to prevent the maths guys from boneing cause the Cath Church hates boneing. That is tubesock and he claimed to be 3rd Party with a soup kill ability. Also claimed to have busdriven HF and eywa during the night. Since eywa died we know someone tried to shoot HF and eywa got my message cause I wanted to sent it to hf. Jockmcplop had an anti inquisitor role. [Hr] Ksc removed Grack (probably temporarily) from the game and is in a at with grack. Ksc claims his win con is to separate two lovers from each other. You claimed diplomat. Vivax and Grack haven't claimed yet imo. We have 2kp unaccounted for. Prolly 1 convert and the lover(s) are missing. So far it looks like all ppl in subgame 1 and 2 started as town. | ||
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*Insert disco lights gif* Mig might be removed from the game, but imo that depends how the actions resolve. My phone has a lot of trouble loading this tl.net thing. So I'll prolly be not that responsive till around 4h before deadline. | ||
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@palmar: ts also claimed to have used his soup kill to remove hf, tw and himself from the game. mig might still be removed too, depending how the hosts stagger the actions. e.g. mig might be removed cause he targets hf who is not in the game anymore, therfore failing. or me might remove hf and himself from the game. not clear what exactly will go down though. also remembered that sentinel hasnt claimed yet. think sentinel and viviax are decent votes atm. both are very absent and havent claimed. sentinal also was very scummy day 1. not 100% sure on vivax but multiple ppl called him scummy too | ||
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On April 10 2019 23:46 Pandain wrote: I'll be honest Palmar's role makes absolutely no sense. I'm still really confused about Mocsta's and LS's role. They have the ability to "recruit" people, but that doesn't do anything to help them at all, except maybe in terms of making it harder for the other faction to destroy all of them. If he's actually telling the truth (definitely not certain), his role seems really weird for an outside party to have. Like he's a town role that has a part in another town mini-game. There must be some sort of other recruiter from either a cultist or mafia, or else his role is sort of just....not fun or interesting for him at all. This is why I think we should be lynching into people who haven't claimed yet like Sentinel/Vivax. Honestly they will (should) almost certainly come back here. I definitely don't think Sentinel is a bad lynch, but last game I thought it was supremely obvious Vivax was town, whereby I don't get that sense in this game. That by itself worries me. palmars role makes sense if the bad guys are a cult or can convert ppl or whatever. or if the hosts are trying to get us to believe they have one. has the bonus side effect of messing with the romans/hindus for more confusion. like look at the message stuff. max confusion if the message ends up at the wrong person. | ||
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On April 11 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote: i like how kelsier has a qt with grack and he's said absolutely nothing good times oh yeah that is also a good option to put a vote on | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:27 KelsierSC wrote: i bussed grak out of this day phase. so his night actions couldnt resolve same for actions against him. he's in a QT with me and i guess he comes back next phase i win with town but my role doesnt seem to have anything to do with maths or pythagoras or romans, some shit about unravelling lovers. On April 10 2019 05:46 KelsierSC wrote: well im supposed to try and find some star crossed lovers and untwine them...grak said he was in love so I figured I should do what my role is supposed to do. feels a bit wack. like not seeing the connection to Italy or maths at all. | ||
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On April 10 2019 01:12 Vivax wrote: My lynch pool atm looks this, in no particular order: Mig - Repeatedly keeps bringing up activity for unnecessary reasons. Loose cannon style of questions that are an easy way of appearing active plus his question directed at TW. KSC - Kinda just exists and goes along without trying to get his hands dirty too much, complained about me being on his ass when I have at most gently kicked it. Going to wait on his promise of effort. Disformation - Also just going along, don't see him even trying to get a read on me after saying multiple times he'd take a look at my filter. Seems like he's in the comfort zone when lynch is headed for Sentinel/KSC. Keeping it in mind for associations later. Palmar - Weekend is over and didn't see much smart stuff from him besides a push on Damdred who is probably town (as long as we go with the theory that all romans and hindus are) and one on Sentinel. Sentinel - Just very non contributive. Have yet to see someone try to work through whether he's bad town or actually mafia. I for myself can't make that distinction. But since this is a no vig game I think it might be worth lynching him just to get a null out. Pandain - His "cause I'm town" arguments reminded me of his scum game where he tried to push the fact really hard that he was town cause his shot on HF was good. Not a reason for me to scumread him, but I remember someone townreading him based on that post. I just don't see much that makes me lean one way or another on him. Sentinel just has a very lynch baity feeling to him and seems like a policy lynch at this point. I'm mostly looking at dudes for mafia who flock around rayn and HF while appearing active. Objectively disfo fits the profile the best. Has a very copycatty feeling to him. Kelsier would come second. that post felt a bit like town vivi. but then its also kinda a list post ~~ and no tinfoils out of him imo | ||
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they have a cultist/recruiter/thingie/Bleh! | ||
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Holyflare, Town Pythagoras + Show Spoiler + Tumblewood, Town Euclid + Show Spoiler + Damdred, the Town Hindu-Arabic Mathematician + Show Spoiler + Tubesock, the Inquisition Operative + Show Spoiler + Mig, Town Fibonacci + Show Spoiler + Vivax, the Original Mafia Star-crossed Lover + Show Spoiler + Grackaroni, the Converted Mafia Star-crossed Lover + Show Spoiler + | ||
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both palmar and vivax are still the only ones to admit to not have a second win con ace detective disformation strikes again | ||
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On April 11 2019 07:23 Pandain wrote: Note grack doesn't have one either oh right. close though. grack has an alternative lose condition xD vivax too though | ||
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On April 11 2019 07:30 disformation wrote: vivax's pm makes it sound like palmar is the recruiter. no idea why/how grack was removed though. but lets see. see: Your loyalty to Genoa - and the Genoese diplomat who recruited you - is unwavering. | ||
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On April 11 2019 10:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: How does disinfo figure into those flips vivax flipped scum, so since i look very unlike vivax wouldnt that make me town? i also could have hammered you. instead i voted vivax, which resulted in 2 scum dying. just sayin | ||
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On April 11 2019 17:54 Palmar wrote: We have 10 people left. If you all are not changing your mind about lynching me and can shoot me it might be better, although assuming mafia kills 2 or something we might actually not have enough time left to do something. It's almost certain we have 2 mafia left, possibly 3 because it appears Grack got converted. This seems to be a swing mechanic so assuming normal balance, 4-ish mafia, it's very likely that it swung to 5 mafia. If I die + 2 night kills it's going to be 4v3. If there's an additional recruitment mechanic it might be gg but I kinda doubt that would be the case as swinging to 6 mafia i just broken. It's pretty obvious I'm getting screwed by an anti-massclaim mechanic (tubesock's role was an anti-massclaim mechanic too). Either mafia has dual roles, or was provided with fake claims. Both are quite likely. Can't even blame the hosts, this just town being dumb. aight. I mean there might be two diplomats for all we know. we dont know sentinel's and ksc's rolenames. might shoot sent instead? feels tad coinflippy though. could explain why vivax just gtfoe'd since his mate wasnt playing? dunno. also confused why/how grack got converted despite being removed from the game? ksc might be the converter and he told us that his win con was about lovers, cause he knew viviax and grack were lovers from qt? or he knew that grack could still be converted despite being removed? vivi mentions ksc a lot: On April 07 2019 23:13 Vivax wrote: I don't understand how anyone who knows HF decides that the first thing he should write about is why HF is top town on a day 1. And looking at the reasons I don't like them either. Why does it make HF town for Kelsier if it doesn't make Damdred not town??? On April 07 2019 23:35 Vivax wrote: "I'll just vote MZ if it's the other wagon" Quality scumhunting here On April 07 2019 23:35 Vivax wrote: Fuck it we have to kill Kelsier asap. ##Vote Kelsier On April 08 2019 01:15 Vivax wrote: We have three options: 1. Lynch MiG for squeaky clean entrance post with complaints about VE playstyle. 2. Lynch Kelsier for making it a priority to townread HF based on an his agreement on a view that turns out not to be his own. 3. Lynch into LS/Damdred/Grack for being probably third party. They are the only non italians here methinks. On April 08 2019 03:52 Vivax wrote: Migs comeback seems townish to me. Dont think I want to lynch him anymore. What bothers me about MZ at this point isnt even the stuff he got pushed for before, its him backpedaling on what he said when it led to him getting pushed. Feels a lot like he shifted his views to what others wanted him to have for convenience. But what bothers me even more is Kelsier putting in twice the effort just to give out a townread on HF for reasons that still arent sufficiently explained over the effort of finding a proper scumread. Hes literally voting MZ cause it was the next best wagon. I dont think bandwagoning per se is scummy if its cause you are trying to vote with your townreads but Im not seeing that being the case for him. I think Id be happiest with a Kelsier lynch at this point. Or a LS lynch. If we get out the possibility of a cult, then we can safely assume that Damdred and Grack are with town. And LS would have to be cult leader considering his proactivity in finding his fellows. On April 08 2019 04:49 Vivax wrote: Dont understand why theres still a wagon on MZ at this point. Can we lynch Kelsier? Or one of the guys whos still afking on MZ while having a golden chance to reevaluate? On April 09 2019 00:32 Vivax wrote: I don't really know why Kelsier has resurrected a discussion about Damdreds D1 plays. Doesn't feel to me like it led him to anything. Really just looks like a discussion of facts from outside the game. Damdred has been an afk non-entity for a while now. He just tends to forget about the game past D1. The focus on interest should rather lie on Palmars weird ass theory that Damdred was mafia pretending to be 3p. I don't really see a world where that is of benefit to mafia. On April 10 2019 01:12 Vivax wrote: My lynch pool atm looks this, in no particular order: Mig - Repeatedly keeps bringing up activity for unnecessary reasons. Loose cannon style of questions that are an easy way of appearing active plus his question directed at TW. KSC - Kinda just exists and goes along without trying to get his hands dirty too much, complained about me being on his ass when I have at most gently kicked it. Going to wait on his promise of effort. Disformation - Also just going along, don't see him even trying to get a read on me after saying multiple times he'd take a look at my filter. Seems like he's in the comfort zone when lynch is headed for Sentinel/KSC. Keeping it in mind for associations later. Palmar - Weekend is over and didn't see much smart stuff from him besides a push on Damdred who is probably town (as long as we go with the theory that all romans and hindus are) and one on Sentinel. Sentinel - Just very non contributive. Have yet to see someone try to work through whether he's bad town or actually mafia. I for myself can't make that distinction. But since this is a no vig game I think it might be worth lynching him just to get a null out. Pandain - His "cause I'm town" arguments reminded me of his scum game where he tried to push the fact really hard that he was town cause his shot on HF was good. Not a reason for me to scumread him, but I remember someone townreading him based on that post. I just don't see much that makes me lean one way or another on him. Sentinel just has a very lynch baity feeling to him and seems like a policy lynch at this point. I'm mostly looking at dudes for mafia who flock around rayn and HF while appearing active. Objectively disfo fits the profile the best. Has a very copycatty feeling to him. Kelsier would come second. feels a bit more like scum going for low hanging fruit though | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:27 KelsierSC wrote: i bussed grak out of this day phase. so his night actions couldnt resolve same for actions against him. he's in a QT with me and i guess he comes back next phase i win with town but my role doesnt seem to have anything to do with maths or pythagoras or romans, some shit about unravelling lovers. hasnt told us anything about what grack said in there though. so might not be reliable for you to communicate with thread. (kinda busy at work so will not be super responsive unfortunately) but yeah ignoring you top lunch would be sent am kinda 50/50 on ksc. like had a scum lean on him before the role stuff happened and his claim is one of the more dubious ones. what do you (or anyone else actually scumhunting) think on my post of vivax on ksc? | ||
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not impossible that one of the romans and/or private investigators is scum... but I dont really have a scum read on any of them? might take a peak at mocsta if i get the time to do so. random tinfoils: maybe scum cant choose who gets converted and thats why it cant be prevented? maybe its some formula... or the hosts rolled one at random cause whole scum team was afk as fuck? | ||
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On April 11 2019 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pandain dude, i really agree iwth this thing regardless of what Palmar is. Think that was @ me. But I agree it's probably very good advice. | ||
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has scum an converter/recruiter on top of that, or is the whole "mafia has a recruiter/converter" a feint. if they have one, they might have converted someone else... but i honestly think most ppl are town so i would have no idea who. maybe it just was a feint and the game is mostly just town vs town with anti town win cons? if it isnt we might be fucked though | ||
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if we remove psamlar and shoot sent. what do we do tomorrow? no lunch? *shrugs* | ||
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like vivax, sent, palmar would be 3. its not clear if they even get the lover which would bump them to 4? but then again there was a ton of town on town and an anti town 3p, so no idea how the balance ends up | ||
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2 town, if there are two of you left. 3 town, if there are three of you left. and shoot everyone if we dun goofed and you won the game. | ||
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blech. i guess they got rid of the recruiter, because they cant recruite ppl that got recruited? which would make palmars role super scum favored. | ||
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On April 12 2019 07:01 disformation wrote: And another rumor circulates: that the Genoa resistance is growing. blech. i guess they got rid of the recruiter, because they cant recruite ppl that got recruited? which would make palmars role super scum favored. though. palmar could also be our counter to their recruiter. | ||
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On April 12 2019 07:06 disformation wrote: or ksc lied and he converted psalmar now... which would kinda suck Or KSC is converting ppl without knowing it. But it also seems scum lost KP... Unless they tried to shoot palmar... | ||
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Fefe shot ls. ??? Shot jock ??? Shot HF but got redirected to eywa Only 1 kill tonight | ||
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yeah dunno sentinel claimed a "normal" role in a game where all roles where wtf. and he conveniently wasted both of his actions. mean hes afk enough to might have missed that we wanted ksc to remove palmar... but dunno feels mega weak sauce | ||
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On April 12 2019 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sentinel what is your exact result from N1? On April 12 2019 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Kelsier can you jail or whatever the same preson twice in a row? On April 13 2019 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Which votes dont you like? | ||
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did he and palmar claim each others roles or what? | ||
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if they can remove one, shoot one convert one next night we prolly lost? 7-3 (according to rayn) ml 6-3 shoot 1 5-3 convert one 4-4 remove one 3-4 uhm. if kp is calculated by some amount of scum alive formula it might be even worse. so yeah i think we have to lynch the recruiter/cultist/converter whatever or we are fucked. | ||
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but boy is this awkward as fuck... | ||
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i think the game is prolly over after this day or at the latest after next night phase so lets see what happens now. *shrugs* just feels pretty anti-climactic and weird I guess. | ||
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I mean rayn _could_ be lying about KSC being recruiter. Or scum. Which would game over for town if we lynch ksc. He even _could_ have prepared that in advance with his "oh I'll claim if you convert me" in cases IF he was converted earlier or started as scum. We could play it safe and lynch him for claiming scum, but not sure if that actually helps us if he is not the recruiter.... Fuck. That would explain why they did shoot mocsta? And why palmar claimed a block recruitment action on rayn? | ||
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On April 13 2019 02:50 Pandain wrote: If Palmar is the cultist that means no one could have been recruited today because Palmar was jailed. Palmar can't be the cultist. ah right. mb. paranoia ftw eh i mean. yeah. uh boy is this awkward. like also hard to decide what would be the bigger dick move between lying and saying the truth. gotta do a bit of rl shit brb in ~30 or something | ||
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On April 13 2019 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: i retract my statement of being mafia. I am actually a cop and i have a red check on Kelsier and Palmar. ah ic *puts tinfoil hat away* | ||
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not sure tbh; might be confused. | ||
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On April 13 2019 04:11 Pandain wrote: Rayn claiming cop is just another way of saying he was lying about the original thing. He's not actually a cop yes that part is obvious. but if hes neither scum nor cop, why does he pick plammar and ksc over sent? | ||
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On April 13 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote: We have to go for the cultist this night. Otherwise we might just lose if cultist can continually reuse his powers. Sentinel is the best chance considering he's probably not a real cop. yes, we need the cultist or its gege. i still think psamlar makes sense for cultist... but he should not have been able to convert someone this night. down to ksc vs sent. i agree that sent is very not cop. question is if ksc lied about his role. eg sent could be the remover and ksc the converter. makes sense with ksc's role name? dunno. whole bunch of them is that afk that i cant tell if they are aware enough of stuff to go for teh plays. | ||
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On April 13 2019 04:24 Pandain wrote: That's a really great question and would be pretty sick. But it's really far-forward thinking at a time they didn't have to be. in the same vein: sents claim could be horrible on purpose. i also still think their diplomat aka palmar should be the recruiter. obv night actions say that is BS. *scratches head* razor logic would say to just vote sent and call it a day. think ill sleep on it and decide tomorrow | ||
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so if a town is jailed that basically counts as -1 town ... | ||
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so the two obvious choices are ksc or sentinel. ksc told us he only converts the lovers to the others alignment. could have lied and is always converting. | ||
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On April 13 2019 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Sentinel wants to get lynched instead of Kelsier and claimed a check on eywa when in fact he should have a check on holyflare. Kelsier couldn't do anything but jail (and i think convert too) Palmar after his claim. I think they need to buy +1 day to get someone converted. Maybe they are even both mafia but if that's the case then Sentinel is nver the converter i think. I don't also think it makes sense that only Sentinel is mafia because that would mean Kelsier is not and therefore also Palmar is not. That would mean mafia starting with only 2 people, on e of them being lovers with a townie. I think it sounds ridiculously underpowered, especially if you think about what town can do with a massclaim. Sure we had some townies who "needed" to kill townies like LS and FF but still. I think having 3 mafia at the start (aka Vivax, Kels and Sent) is reasonable. Kelsiers "why the fuck would i recruit Grack knowing he is lovers with viv" is bs because regardless of who is mafia they did just that. I don't know what mafia knows and what was the reason but they did that, so saying he isn't the recruiter because he jailed grack is just what anyone would say from "town perspective". Disformation also had the right idea, we are in deep shit if we get it wrong now and after that there is nothing to do other than randomlynching people because you cannot know who is mafia anymore. That's the most retarded point of cult-like games, but if Kelsier is the recruiter we win just by lynching Palmar tomorrow (ans Sentinel if the game doesn't end there). yeah, sounds very reasonable. | ||
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On April 13 2019 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait. Do we lose if we lynch a townie today? How many are alive? On April 13 2019 01:54 disformation wrote: super paranoid though. if they can remove one, shoot one convert one next night we prolly lost? 7-3 (according to rayn) ml 6-3 shoot 1 5-3 convert one 4-4 remove one 3-4 uhm. if kp is calculated by some amount of scum alive formula it might be even worse. so yeah i think we have to lynch the recruiter/cultist/converter whatever or we are fucked. | ||
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100% scum did convert someone last night. that also 100% happened. so palmar should not be able to use a convert. leaves us with sent and ksc, at least one of those is scum and one of them is def the recruiter. neither of them looks town. sent very much lied about his role. ksc might have lied about his role. also ksc is voting sent, sent is voting someone random its possible sent is trying to get lynched over ksc to give them one more chance to recruit someone unfortunately it is not a 100% safe bet | ||
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dont like that the vote is 3-3 and slam hasnt voted and sent has an irrelevant vote. semi-afk though. should be around 30mins b4 deadline to think about it once more. | ||
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On April 14 2019 05:45 Pandain wrote: It just makes no sense why Kelsier would claim he converted him if he was actually the cultist (and probably bring suspicion to himself). And if you think he's the actual cultist and that's his real power, why would he pick grack in a million years. The explanation of his town role just makes more sense imo. It's okay if you believe it. It just means you're probably mafia and we're fucked if Slam is too. On April 14 2019 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whoever converted grack makea no sense based on what townies know so thats a dumb argument. like what is so hard about that? i am also very unhappy you are calling me scum. | ||
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On April 14 2019 05:47 Pandain wrote: Yeah and imo it's almost certainly one of Slam, you, me, or FF. It's not me and both you and FF are voting for KSC, so this is just where the logic leads me. And if you think KSC is mafia that means you think mafia has the power to remove players from the game. Oh and if you think he's the cultist they also have the power to convert that person to. That's incredibally imbalanced. no if ksc is the cultist its obv palmar... | ||
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On April 14 2019 05:47 Pandain wrote: Yeah and imo it's almost certainly one of Slam, you, me, or FF. It's not me and both you and FF are voting for KSC, so this is just where the logic leads me. And if you think KSC is mafia that means you think mafia has the power to remove players from the game. Oh and if you think he's the cultist they also have the power to convert that person to. That's incredibally imbalanced. its actually better than just converting because their new person cant vote next cycle? not sure tbh, no idea how that day remove thing affects balance | ||
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scum converted grack. does it make sense for scum to convert grack? no. | ||
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IGNORE EVERYTHING. it is a 100% fact that grack got converted. why would mafia convert grack is not an answer town can answer. grack got converted by ksc. a) ksc is scum lying about his role b) ksc is town we also know that someone got converted last night again: a) its sent b) its ksc and he lied about his role is it possible that BOTH sent and KSC are scum and sent is trying to give KSC one more night by doing a shit claim? | ||
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On April 14 2019 06:09 Pandain wrote: No KSC claimed his role even before the whole debacle with the mathmeticians and 5 people dying, which completely changed the game. There's no way mafia knew what would happen (all mathematicians were town) and were preparing just "one more day". KSC is almost certainly not lying about his role. he claimed this early: On April 10 2019 05:27 KelsierSC wrote: i bussed grak out of this day phase. so his night actions couldnt resolve same for actions against him. he's in a QT with me and i guess he comes back next phase i win with town but my role doesnt seem to have anything to do with maths or pythagoras or romans, some shit about unravelling lovers. and A LOT later added: On April 11 2019 23:59 KelsierSC wrote: I was told there were 2 SCL's and i have to "uncross their stars" I can choose one player per night and effectively jail them "no night actions from or against them" they will be out of phase with the town next day and go into a temp qt with me. If they are the right star cross lover my "sage advice" will put them back in sync with their partner. win with town, alt win con uncross the lovers. so from the last line. it seems like they only get changed to the other alignment if they were a SCL. why didnt he mention that the first time? see. i dont even disagree that sentinel is super likely to be scum. i just have a bad feeling about sentinel coming in with his claim and then not voting ksc. it might be a mindgame, but it might very well mean that ksc is the converter. but yeah i am super totally not sure if i want to go ksc in the hopes of getting the recruiter. or just do the safe thing and vote sent. | ||
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@rayn: any comments on my stuff or the general sent vs ksc thing? | ||
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On April 13 2019 02:41 KelsierSC wrote: I was going to try and figure things out but i dont really give a fuck about this game. Lynch me or dont . I'm afk. and i think gtfoing in this game seems to be scum thing. hi viviax. though. you obviouisly could say the same on sent | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:08 KelsierSC wrote: the name of the role is the doppler shift , which is a maths/physics thing though i don't know what ties it has to fibbo. huh. also no idea what the doppler thing has to do with lovers or whatever. | ||
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On April 14 2019 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait we still win lol, the new mafia dude is gagged during the day and cannot vote so it's effectively 3vs2 tomorrow. Mh WE are 9 ppl now, right? Well if it's just palmar and KSC. It's 7-2 Shoot one, recruit + remove one: It's kinda like 5-2 since their new guy can't vote? Unless they got their 2nd KP back for being two ppl. Then it's 4-2. If they have 2kp and 3 Mafia ATM then we dead. | ||
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yeah if its only palmar and ksc with 1 shot we win. otherwise we lose or have to hope they are too afk for night actions xD | ||
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i mean if you didnt get converted, who did? and how teh äff did they conv grack? | ||
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On April 15 2019 06:21 Pandain wrote: Welcome to the Genoa Resistance disinformation! thanks guys. at least i got a win. and to think i was super torn between voting ksc and sent... who BOTH WERE TOWN. xD | ||
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think in hindsight figuring the messages out did hurt town more than it helped. | ||
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On April 15 2019 06:29 Pandain wrote: Disinformation I thought you played really well! I mean town was tunneled hard on there being a town recruiter so that fundamentally decided the last days lynch (and thinking surrounding it), but without you I don't think vivax would have been lynched. you should sign up for artanis's game I really loved day 2. It was just so crazy and no one had any idea what was going on. thanks! i will consider signing up for artanis's game, but i am going on a vaction (in Italy!) for a week in early May, so I think that might be a bit tight time wise. think i could have played d1 a bit better. my early attempt at digging at Euclid was a tad too heavyhanded. | ||
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/m111 was sarcasm. Yes I do love rolling some mafia. But seeing the not best night actions as a host is... Second a PI sent a note... It said: Dear Euclid The person you are looking for is dead. Your faithful PI If you are giving me a night action I am damn well using it to my fullest! | ||
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On April 15 2019 06:55 Grackaroni wrote: Grackaroni bitching about being removed from the game QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/QEvADCN9N7bB8 I wouldn't recommend lynching Sentinel. Damdred is very likely town so his voting at the deadline should be non-alignment indicative. Top lynches: Palmar Vivax Pretty good lynches: Mig Disfo Tumblewood Likely town/shouldn't lynch: Mocsta Damdred Tubesock Pandain Other people I'm unsure about. pretty good reeds, grack. also very entertaining to read. 10/10 | ||
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