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Anyway, I have reads. I have a couple town reads and a couple of people I'd lynch based on just what's in the thread. Not enough people have posted for me to DIVULGE that information though, so whatever. I'm here. Are you? | ||
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On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote: if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad All the mafias are playing DotA and not knowing the game has started. You wanna play DotA HF? | ||
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On April 06 2019 10:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Genoa is pretty nice to get random land in western Italy when playing Byzantium/Ottomans/Russia in EU4 So are we lynching Palmar or conftown | ||
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On April 06 2019 10:12 Damdred wrote: To the people who ask, it's difficult for me to say yes 100% Roman's will be town for instance. But logically if you have factions that are town that win if the other is eliminated but still have a main win objective for instance when mafia is eliminated. It implies that romans could be town. Not that host wifom wouldnt make people in groups mafia. But from my role pm I think it less likely right now I'm town and my ethnicity is unknown, though it heavily applies that I'm human and I live on earth. | ||
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I'll lynch disfo I guess, he's the weird rolefishy guy early right? Mkay and I can blame you lata. Slam you da man. | ||
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On April 06 2019 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: which is why i dont believe holyflare :D Are you really not concerned about gaming the mod like that? I can easily see a themed game having vanilla in it, just for names and shit. | ||
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I like HF rayn slam for town, Jockmcplop probably my second scummiest so far. I'm leaving my vote on disfo, I clearly knew who he was and he's saying I was trying to pretend I didn't, it's all scummy bullshit. I can see that coming from town OR mafia, but it feels bad to me right now. I'm leaving it. | ||
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I'm just saying what I find suspicious guy, not saying what I think you SHOULD be doing. Do you. If I don't like it I'll vote for you. Currently I'm not. | ||
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You all take it easy, and I'll be back before you know it. | ||
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You know something YOU'RE A DUMPSTER. | ||
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On April 06 2019 21:27 Palmar wrote: Hi I have not read the thread. I am looking for friends. Lone wolf claim | ||
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On April 07 2019 04:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I agree with this post a lot. I also wanna briefly comment on VE since I've seen him brought up a few times: back when I played frequently VE was pretty popular D1 lynchbait. Now obviously its been 6 or 7 years but right now I've got a very slight meta townread on him. This is the kind of shitty one liner I'm talking about people, more of this. | ||
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I'm remove my vote from disfo. Not that I've read him in isolation or thought any deeper about it, but there seem to be actual wagons with strongish reasoning forming and I want to be on the right one. | ||
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On April 07 2019 09:15 Tumblewood wrote: (posting as i catch up) MZ is conftown for thinking LS even has a chance of being correct here. and i am serious about this, MZ would virtually have to claim mafia for me to turn on him We may have a problem boys. | ||
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I'm also voting MZ so you also don't really need to convince me. :/ | ||
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THANK YOU SLAM | ||
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On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid. I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts. This is kinda bullshit you knowingly joined a themed game ya? | ||
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"Exceptions That Prove Rules" for $100 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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On April 08 2019 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi VE are you mafia? What do you think? I could say no but THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY REGARDLESS EH?!?! | ||
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I'm still filtering. The role shit becomes important tomorrow, and sides will be picked. | ||
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rayn is totally right to question me, I'm a fucking BOMB mafia player. | ||
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On April 08 2019 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE Cake says hi. Yay cake rox. | ||
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KSC: His filter reads pretty poorly. He had very little input D1, and the bulk of his activity is arguing with Palmar wrt his Damdred case. Softly shat on the MZ wagon and threw his vote away on Palmar. High mafia probability. Mocsta: I’m not up on my Mocsta meta so I’m just going to give my feels about Mocsta and someone more readily familiar can check my work. He’s doing this thing that I seem to recall being NAI, where he acts super sure of himself and his reads regardless of actual level of certainty. It feels townie to me, as it feels like a way to push people off-balance and get their emotions up, something I don’t readily associate with Mocsta’s mafia play. This post gives me pause, however, in which he agrees with on the current vote leader but votes in favor of another wagon. In his favor is the fact that he’s pretty open about the fact that he considers both to be crapshoots, and not liking FF, the other viable wagon. Overall I think he’s town, but like I said, someone who is more familiar with Mocsta’s meta should look and see if there’s anything I missed or was mistaken about. | ||
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Opens with /decent/ reasoning wrt Damdred’s role speculation, and focuses on it to exclusion. In fairness, Damdred gave him nothing really else to base it upon. The crux of his argument appears to be that as town Damdred has no reason to discuss his role mechanics, therefor that makes him mafia trying to appear town (presumably with a fake claim? or with his own real mafia role?) Generally speaking I find his reasoning to be flawed in that he’s saying there is only this one way to behave as a townie, and failing that he’s mafia. This is almost always my exception with Palmar’s early reads - unless there’s meta analysis (which later on there is, we’ll get there) Palmar almost always expects townies to act the way he’d act, and they almost never do. It results in him thinking literally everyone is stupid. It doesn’t get him ZERO results, but it’s hit or miss and he knows it. There were a scant 4 posts wrt Damdred’s meta that Palmar attempted to sway the lynch with - I’m not sure of the validity of the meta, but it does come before the lynch and attempt to get people off MZ. I just don’t think he bothers as mafia. He expands on the meta read after the lynch, but it at least aligns with his posted reasoning before the lynch. I think Palmar probably town. I could be wrong, Palmar probably better than I am, but he seems like he’s putting in a base-level town-Palmar amount of effort. | ||
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On April 08 2019 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred worded his posts early so weirdly i can easily think Palmar thinks he is mafia. Why did you decide to read the people you did? I'm reading everyone. The order is based on what I remember about the day. I'm doing Mig next but I think that be a short one. | ||
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On April 09 2019 01:24 Vivax wrote: I need more pork chops from VE I already posted my food related post of the game. I'm afraid pork is off the menu tonight + Show Spoiler + lol just kidding we're literally having porkchops tomorrow night for dinner. pics will depend on the state of the thread. | ||
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On April 09 2019 20:49 Tubesock wrote: Why’s it matter if it’s D3? Do you see anything weird with Mig’s reaction to the nightkills? On April 09 2019 20:51 Tubesock wrote: Also VE, what is the difference between Mig and Sentinel? I mean he vaguely looks like he took a shot at HF that missed, is that what you're referring to? Otherwise he looks like he's just trying to be seen speculating. IDK, the difference seems to be quality of posting to me. Where if you squint you can maybe see Mig just trying to figure shit out, Sentinel just looks like he's posting to be posting. | ||
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I'm at work, but I'm check that shit out when I go smoke fo SHO | ||
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1) You were lying 2) You were right 3) You aren't mafia It's like one of the strongest positions to be in, did you capitalize? | ||
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And doesn't he redouble his push on the person over the night in case he dies? It all just starts to smack of low-effort mafia-Palmar the more time goes by. | ||
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ITS NOT EVEN A WEEKEND! | ||
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Are we sure recruiting is a thing? Like, is this based on the whole "appears to be growing" thing? I think I missed something big that PROVES a recruiter. People seem to be talking about it like it's a given. | ||
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On April 09 2019 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk maybe scum jsut blueread you or something. do you think i basically made up the exact role (you know is legit) before anyone else? I mean, don't mafia get fake-claims historically? idk if this is meaningful or not. | ||
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On April 10 2019 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: so i decided to fakeclaim a role that will kill me D2? :D i can genuinely say i would never ever fakeclaim i need to be recruited if i wasn't needed to. That's just a fucking suicide and i actually try to win as mafia. Ya that makes sense - problem is you don't know it's auto-suicide, as townies are more in the dark about what else is out there than mafia are presumably, so you might not get killed and I'm pretty sure you know that. It doesn't matter I currently think you're town, I just want to be clear that it's not as cut and dry as you make it seem. | ||
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On April 10 2019 01:23 Vivax wrote: I missed this entire VE targeting Palmar business while writing. So he targeted Palmar, and rayn got a message of his target being Roman or what? I don't know about Roman or whatever, but I targeted Palmar. It is unknown whether Palmar received a message because he's lame and hates us. But rayn got a message that looks like one I'd send, and Disfo appears to have sent the same sort of message. I'm not clear on who disfo actually targetted. | ||
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On April 10 2019 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: so what if i fuck one of you up by just letting tout the name? You're free to do whatever you want. It only affects my alternate wincon and we're on track (I think :/) to just win with town. Do you bby. | ||
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I'm PRETTY sure the way this all works is that the QTs were supposed to be way more of a thing in this game rather than everything play out in the thread, and town was supposed to do all the collab shit in the QTs. I think there's probably a mathematician that's town and mafia in both factions, and I think both the messengers are town due to the design. The recruiters are probably both town. There's probably one each of town/mafia inside of X/Y in the messenger mechanic...meaning like, HF or the other guy. I think the mafia is probably the other guy, as HF says. Have all the mathematicians claimed? | ||
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I would really just like to scumhunt at this point. | ||
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On April 09 2019 01:42 VisceraEyes wrote: That leaves Italian, and have I got some good news for you HF!! This is my hint, it points to my target, not who I work for. If X = who this clue points to, then disfo sent it. If it's the other guy, I sent it. | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm just gonna ignore it and we can lynch kelsier :D he can claim Y if he wants and then I can test it and remove us both from the game QFT I think mafia will just kill to destroy alternate win-cons in the case that there's a mafia recruiter, and if not then it doesn't matter anyway. We just lynch mafia and win that way. | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: well i dont think i am getting the hints but it's you poe since it can't be disfo i think I mean that's COOL an urything but I targetted Palmar so that's still a mystery. | ||
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BOTH of our shits got fucked up, right? Didn't HF say he didn't get anything? | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:35 Holyflare wrote: Palmar and rayn got bussed. The only way I see that happening is of palmar is mafia and they were hoping a cop checked him. Let's lynch the mofo. Palmar's a pussy, so I think he's a Hider. | ||
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It's definitely mafia and I'm DEFINITELY buying that shit. | ||
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On April 06 2019 07:18 LightningStrike wrote: Any Arbic/Hindu mathematicians around here? lololol | ||
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On April 10 2019 02:54 Palmar wrote: Im sick as a dog. Not doing anything today Our collective thoughts are with you and your dog. | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:01 Holyflare wrote: Waiting for fake Palmar message. Calculating. Man I just assumed he'd tell the truth god I'm dumb. | ||
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HF your only chance is to collab with whoever it is you need to collab with. I'm not sure if you're town or mafia, but I think the masses are gonna think you're mafia. | ||
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As in I investigate for the man. | ||
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Everyone chill, we're still gonna lynch mafia today. That's the important part. | ||
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That is interesting. | ||
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FUCKING THIS IS ANOTHER LEVEL | ||
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Damnit I'm gonna die tonight | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Rayn what does your X name begin with? E? That's my Y guy. | ||
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AND YOU AREN'T EITHER OF MY GUYS STAY AWAY YOU MONSTER | ||
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On April 10 2019 03:58 Pandain wrote: Who the fuck is E? Euclid? WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS HERE GUY | ||
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I think Pythagoras, Euclid and a third as yet unnamed guy are all trying to collab. Whoever collabs first, they and their PIs win. The other guy and his PI don't get to be in the sex tape. | ||
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Ship it. If he won he wouldn't be in the game. | ||
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Maybe it's a balance thing, with all the alternate win cons it would be impossible for town to win if they all were removed or something? | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I think it's a menage a trois I think Pythagoras, Euclid and a third as yet unnamed guy are all trying to collab. Whoever collabs first, they and their PIs win. The other guy and his PI don't get to be in the sex tape. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote: Ok if I was bussed with eywa then this is fucked. Mathematician take your win and collaborate with me. NO WAIT FOR GRACK TO GET BACK..... ......PLEASE??? | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:30 Pandain wrote: No two of the PIs win. One mathmetician and one PI are not included. @HF so the "collaboration" is the trade itself. Lol wtf is that What part of Menage a trois are you not GETTING GUY?!?!? Whichever 2 guys Collab, the PI that tried to hook THEM up wins. Not the other two. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:34 Holyflare wrote: Why is nobody talking about mig slipping? Go on..... | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:40 Holyflare wrote: Pretty confident I'm gonna die tonight lol GOOD! I mean gosh that would really be a shame HF. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:49 Fecalfeast wrote: can someone give me a bus driver explainer real quick Bus switches 2 peoples position - A targets B C targets D Bus Driver switches B and D A now targeting D C now targeting B | ||
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I'm trying to hook up Pythagoras and Euclid, so that implies that Euclid is in the Damdred voters. | ||
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On April 10 2019 04:59 Pandain wrote: Pythagorus is (HF) and is looking for Euclid (Among Damdred voters) . VE is helping Holyflare and sent a message to Palmar. Euclid (Among Damdred Voters) is looking for Fibonacci (_________). Disinfo is helping Euclid and sent a message to HF. Fibonacci (____________) is looking for Pythagorus (HF) I am helping Fibonacci and sent a message to Rayn. Is this right? It's missing info too, there's a second message out there talking about how Pythagorus is in MZ voters I think. | ||
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WHO THE FUCK CARES THAT A NUMBER PLUS THE LAST NUMBER IS THE NEXT NUMBER HUH?!?!? HUH?!?!?!?! | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:02 Mig wrote: Are we sure hf is pyth, if so I will be collaborating with his ass! NO I SAID FUCK OFF I HAVE A GUN MATE | ||
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On April 10 2019 19:53 Palmar wrote: although I guess there's a bunch of recruiting factions this game. Cult + at least 2 town factions? That seems to be the extent of it, isn't that enough? | ||
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I'm trying to do the maths, but it seems like pushing to take X number of players out of the game after so many town deaths seems anti-town. Granted, Mig came in and made a show of struggling with the decision, but I think ultimately he intended to do it this phase once the opportunity came. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mig Maybe lynching him interrupts the process. Maybe we all get out of this alive. | ||
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On April 10 2019 20:52 disformation wrote: Summary attempt for pslmar: Sub game 1: Hindu/Arab Vs Rome Each of the two have 1 assassin, 1 recruiter, 2 maths guys Assassin needs to kill the recruiter of the opposite faction. Recruiter needs to get the maths guys of his faction into a at. Maths guys need to get into the qt and or remove the entire opposing faction. Note: assassin's get bullets refunded if they hit the opposite faction. See m_z role. Arab/Hindu: damdy, ls, m_z, eywa Romans: rayn, mocsta, slam, ff Ff shot ls. Mocsta tried to recruit rayn, cause you prevented that. [Hr] Sub game 2: math love triangle Fibonacci wants to bone Pythagoras. Euclid wants to bone Fibonacci and Pythagoras wants to bone Fibonacci. If a pair bones they win and get removed from the game. Each of the 3 has an Investigator who is helping them out. You got one of the Investigator messages. Fibbers is Mig. Pytha is HF. Euclid is TW. Helpers: VE, Pandain, Disco Additionally there is an Inquisitor who needs to prevent the maths guys from boneing cause the Cath Church hates boneing. That is tubesock and he claimed to be 3rd Party with a soup kill ability. Also claimed to have busdriven HF and eywa during the night. Since eywa died we know someone tried to shoot HF and eywa got my message cause I wanted to sent it to hf. Jockmcplop had an anti inquisitor role. [Hr] Ksc removed Grack (probably temporarily) from the game and is in a at with grack. Ksc claims his win con is to separate two lovers from each other. You claimed diplomat. Vivax and Grack haven't claimed yet imo. We have 2kp unaccounted for. Prolly 1 convert and the lover(s) are missing. So far it looks like all ppl in subgame 1 and 2 started as town. Quoted for Page | ||
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It's actually a really interesting mechanic if it works that way. If we're all town it doesn't make any fucking sense and we should have never fucked with it. | ||
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YOU'RE FUCKING MAFIA MATE | ||
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Jesus help us. | ||
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You're just in here fucking off because you've already won. If you're town you have NO room blaming anyone else for fucking town, because you're not in here trying to help them win. You say you should be easy to read as town but NO ONE DID. That's like........you're fault, not theirs. And now you're in here taunting them. Like, you're LITERALLY trying to make town lose. Regardless of whether you achieve your win-condition, that's poor form and fucking bullshit. | ||
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On April 10 2019 22:57 Palmar wrote: I think we should just kill sentinel though. Aside from all the role stuff dude is playing like mafia. I can get behind this. | ||
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I was losing my shit for a bit. | ||
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However I've also filtered Vivax. From early on Vivax was trying to lynch Kels, so I think I wanna take him off the table tomorrow. He had him in sights D1 and was waffley on him D2, but careful to leave him on the table. My own reservations about his role aside, I think lynching Kels tomorrow a bad idea. Conversely, his most recent reads post pretty heavily downplays a Sentinel lynch as "policy" and "lynch-baity". Based on Vivax filter I think I'd like a Sent lynch tomorrow the mostest. | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:01 KelsierSC wrote: If it was a mafia role then in the mafia QT vivax just tells me grack is the other SCL and I recruit him N1 winning the game immediately. Unless you're lying about the whole "Untangle the lovers" thing which not only doesn't make any sense thematically but you've failed to adequately explain yourself. | ||
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On April 11 2019 19:48 Pandain wrote: It makes no sense why Grack would get removed by mafia since he was converted. Therefore he must have been removed by town. Since no one has claimed another role yet, barring sentinel claiming something, kelsier must be telling the truth Grack could have easily been lynched D2, I could see them trying to protect Grack. Maybe there's something specific they had in mind, I really couldn't say. You mentioned as well earlier that it's possible, even likely, that mafia don't know who they are recruiting or whatever, it could just be a coincidence that Kels jailed him to protect him on the same night he was recruited. | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:08 KelsierSC wrote: what explanation do you need exactly? I don't even know what "Untangle" means, obviously it isn't jail one of them or you would have won, does it mean kill them? Does it mean put them on the same side with the recruiting mechanic? I mean I was unsure about what my win-condition was but once I got the actual information I needed it became obvious - you're telling me that with full knowledge of both their roles, you still have no idea what it means to untangle them? | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:15 Pandain wrote: I think this is an absolutely terrible argument and I hadn't scum-read you but now you are pretty suspicious. Practically no one was scum-reading Grack, and why would you remove someone in order to "protect them" when you could have just removed a pro-town player from the game. Removing grack from the game is removing a vote. Because it's not actually protecting Grack but PROTECTING VIVAX. Jesus, I'm not just talking about mafia protecting a townie man, I'm talking about protecting 1 or maybe even 2 if they're aware of the conversion, of their own in a game where, from your OWN MOUTH, you think they started with 2 or something. I didn't scumread you before but your shallowness of understanding of my point makes me reconsider heavily. | ||
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I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LYNCHING KELSIER TOMORROW VIVAX WANTED TO DO THAT AND HE WAS MAFIA I WANT TO LYNCH SENTINEL INSTEAD I'M LEAVING MY THOUGHTS IN THE THREAD IN CASE I DIE IN THE NIGHT | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:28 Pandain wrote: If you think I'm mafia after being the definitive vote for Vivax, taking out two mafia, when I could have at any time changed to Sentinel, then you have more respect for me then you should. Oh, I have respect for you. As far as I know you're one of the OGs here. My respect for you is why your perceived density is suspicious to me. | ||
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So can we agree that Kels is off the table tomorrow then? | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:36 KelsierSC wrote: i like a sent lynch, and if i'm off the table I can just vote and AFK my concern with using my ability on palmar is that if he is town it potentially phases him into a mafia so i'm not really sure. The way your role reads, the alignment shift only occurs to the lovers, switching your target to their lover's alignment. | ||
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On April 11 2019 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I won already. Apparently i am not removed from the game which is retarded. KINGMAKER RAYN! Are you gonna give it to mafia? Is it going to depend on whether we make you mad? | ||
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On April 12 2019 00:18 Pandain wrote: If Kelsier is Mafia that means that he would have 100% known that he can convert grack to mafia. Basically a free +1, but in a really fucking weird way. Do you guys think that is likely? Ya someone else mentioned this earlier. I do not think this is likely. | ||
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Alternate win-con is over, I'm done using that power. Period. | ||
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On April 12 2019 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm in a very interesting situation. Because I'm a cop. But N1 I checked Eywa-, who died, and N2 I checked Palmar, who... disappeared. Studying for an exam, but I'll take any questions you have. Did you get a result back from your Palmar check? OR your Eywa check? Like, an alignment cop? I'm pretty sure this is complete bullshit. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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On April 12 2019 18:26 Pandain wrote: I'm not sure how we can address the converted people. We will just have to guess in the end-game, the best plan for us is to try to aim for the cultist and lynch him. We do as you suggested earlier - we keep aiming for mafia and it will either work itself out or it won't. I'm starting to suspect we all got our panties in a ruffle over nothing. Kels' role pretty explicit about changing the alignment of his target IF it's the lover. Given everything else, it's probably best we just aim at mafia. Sentinel fits that bill perfectly, as his claim is nonsensical in a way that feels manipulative. I'd rather kill the obvious mafia now, while looking for the next. When Sent flips mafia I hope you'll reconsider lynching me next, as I've been calling for Sent's head for longer than most. | ||
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Poll: Should we make days 24hrs? I don't care! This game is fucked anyway! (4) Yes! Not only am I not reading, I'm barely checking! (2) No! Our laws are sacred and deviation is tantamount to heracy! (2) Yes! I'm reading and checking regularly, but not much is happening! (1) No! I'm having a hard time catching up and need the extra time that no one else does! (0) 9 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Yes! Not only am I not reading, I'm barely checking! | ||
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On April 12 2019 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sentinel what is your exact result from N1? I'm more interested in who he'd like to lynch today since Palmar literally can't be lynched today. | ||
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Like I don't think he's mafia for it, just fed up with the game. rayn do you really believe Sent's claim? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: KelsierSC It doesn't even make sense, why would they have reduced their voting power yesterday? | ||
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