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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 04 2019 21:40 GMT
#156
/in
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 22:10 GMT
#174
Hey guys, my name is Eywa-, three mods is too many, I suggest we lynch one.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 22:15 GMT
#181
On April 06 2019 07:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:10 Eywa- wrote:
Hey guys, my name is Eywa-, three mods is too many, I suggest we lynch one.


ARE WE DOING A REVOLUTION?!

I'll get my guillotine

Partial revolt. 3-1=2

2 is a strong number, I would know.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 22:37 GMT
#201
If you all need meta on me in order to confirm my alignment, it isn't a problem, I will provide it to you postgame.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 22:51 GMT
#217
On April 06 2019 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ewya only played 2 games as town lol...

That meta is olllllld
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 23:06 GMT
#233
On April 06 2019 07:53 LightningStrike wrote:
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On April 06 2019 07:51 Eywa- wrote:
On April 06 2019 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ewya only played 2 games as town lol...

That meta is olllllld

Did you paid Sziky to hide your other games?+ Show Spoiler +
kinda joking where else you had played?

I paid sziky, but sas took revenge by nuking all my posts. It backfired.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 23:08 GMT
#235
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This game, I stole Joekim's alias.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 23:09 GMT
#236
I'm just memeing.

I'm not mafia.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 23:10 GMT
#239
On April 06 2019 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like this is a 10 faction game or some shit and I'm just sitting here with something that is completely anti town despite actually being town

Saving this for later.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 05 2019 23:51 GMT
#282
On April 06 2019 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am a bit sad that hf rolled mafia.

Yeah, pretty much why I quoted him, he's just open wolf.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 00:04 GMT
#292
On April 06 2019 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 06 2019 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Hrm....this is interesting a bit

I think hf is correct this is at least a three faction game I think. Well sorta town might have multiple factions within itself.



nobody from my town faction says this unless they are a different faction entirely which they'd only assume from their role

I actually agree with this.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 00:11 GMT
#302
On April 06 2019 09:08 Tumblewood wrote:
i thought HF was town, and then rayn and eywa said that he wasn't. but then i realized that i don't have to listen to them, so HF is town. disfo is also town for being
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On April 06 2019 08:54 disformation wrote:
Soooo... am I the dude who has to constantly ask ppl to maybe explain where their reeds come from, so a) they can be held accountable b) idiots like me can understand where they are coming from.
I mean... like come on a oneline would be nice?
maybe?

relatable

I don't think that makes him town at all, I think it'll be interesting how his play evolves throughout the day, but I see a guy trying to pretend to be useful by making easy plays.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 00:13 GMT
#303
I feel like Rayn is pretty obvtown right now, but we'll see how that holds. I don't actually know anyone in this game.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 00:16 GMT
#308
On April 06 2019 09:15 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 06 2019 09:13 Eywa- wrote:
I feel like Rayn is pretty obvtown right now, but we'll see how that holds. I don't actually know anyone in this game.

eywa is town for saying obvtown

Oh my god, I was town reading you too. I hope you don't betray my heart, we can form a TT alliance.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 00:32 GMT
#317
On April 06 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 06 2019 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am a bit sad that hf rolled mafia.

:O

He Svengali me eh? I think he is town

Why do I dislike your posts so much? :/
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 02:30 GMT
#422
On April 06 2019 10:20 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 06 2019 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad

Could be 1 mafia atm might grow to more like the series itself :o

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On April 06 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Genoa is pretty nice to get random land in western Italy when playing Byzantium/Ottomans/Russia in EU4

So are we lynching Palmar or

It's the weekend give him some time.

LS is innocent LS town. 99.9% on this

LS is my lifelong partner.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 13:00 GMT
#464
Jockmcplop confirmed scum. Total lack of conviction.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 13:04 GMT
#466
On April 06 2019 22:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
It was a weird mix of silly and trying to seem serious to me - like I said, like you were pretending to care about the thread at the time.

I'm just saying what I find suspicious guy, not saying what I think you SHOULD be doing. Do you. If I don't like it I'll vote for you. Currently I'm not.

Is this Scum Theatre?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 13:09 GMT
#467
On April 06 2019 22:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On April 06 2019 22:00 Eywa- wrote:
Jockmcplop confirmed scum. Total lack of conviction.


uh-huh

just because I don't say that all my immediate suspicions and intuitions are confirmed?
That's just bizarre to be honest.

I mean you have me as confirmed scum after about 4 posts and have already confirmed someone else as town for no reason.
I'd rather have a lack of conviction (given the lack of good information) than random convictions based off nothing.

What do you think about Viceraeyes soft push on you?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 14:11 GMT
#487
On April 06 2019 22:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Feel like ve and jock both went up on my estimation there.

From jock he's like responding to everything thrown at him whereas if your mafia you want to pretend you don't care and act all aloof because I'm "so busy catching scum right now"
've didn't like the ewar dudes post and I agreed. Trying to be a therapist like "so what do you think about this guy pushing on you." Who gives a fuck mang.

Still lynch ff and now lynch the new guy aswell.

I'm wondering here if you're trying to defend your actions or theirs... Noted for future.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 14:23 GMT
#488
Honestly, I think any votes for Grack right now is a scumclaim.

The other thing I'm very interested in is KelsierSC...

On April 06 2019 07:52 KelsierSC wrote:
## vote: fecalfeast


On April 06 2019 16:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning,

I've gone through the thread and will share a couple of reads.

Holyflare is my top town right now,

[...]

With regards to scum, I voted ff in part because some other peope said so but mostly so we could get the game going and we could stop talking about Roman history or slam's girlfriend/next victim but I can't give more than "i don't like his posting" I think Mig's pushing on him is pretty justified though.

[...]

I have small leanings either way on other players but nothing I want to specifically write about. I will probably look more into HF's circle/town and see what I agree with and then look at what rayn posts as he is generally not terrible and I can understand what he writes

I don't like the excessive justification of the early vote, the early white knight and the declaration that he's already justifying his upcoming sheep votes...

Also, see my previous post #487...

Definitely in my top 2 day 1 lynches.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 14:27 GMT
#489
On April 06 2019 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
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On April 06 2019 22:00 Eywa- wrote:
Jockmcplop confirmed scum. Total lack of conviction.

Lack of.c9nviction this early into the game isnt a scum tell O_o

My style of scum hunting definitely isn't popular, but my conviction early on should not be taken overly seriously, only once I start justifying my leads is it more of a serious affair.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 06 2019 14:58 GMT
#494
On April 06 2019 23:49 Mocsta wrote:
Hello all.

I am caught up and have nothing of value to add.

I have a couple town reads, but this is largely irrelevant to share.

No firm leads to pursue at this point. i can justify most of the content to date as "theme exploration" which whilst I think is completely OK to do on Day1, also makes it difficult to discern scum motivation.

I suppose my main outstanding point of interest to reexamine when I wake up is VE.
I didn't share the same opinion as mig, but his passion was sufficient to trigger me to revisit.

Damdred is an odd case.
I dont get the play if mafia or 3P to be so blase.
I can see some worlds where the play makes sense as town.
That already is enough for me to write him off as a D1 lynch candidate.

Really, im waiting to hear more from the rest of the game
TS, Pandain, MZ, Palmar
&
I tend to agree that "worst" post in the thread to date is that KSC explanation on ?p24?

/night

Ooof

That is all.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 16:40 GMT
#826
So admittedly I had to skim through a lot because there is too much text...

Add vivax, palmar and disfo to my scum pile, need to do a quick filter before deciding Priority
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:10 GMT
#840
On April 08 2019 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.

This is kinda bullshit you knowingly joined a themed game ya?

I feel like the game is also bastard, not sure if that was initially stated -- to be honest, I didn't actually read the description.

- My role is town, but I don't win with all of town... From the looks of it, I only win with 1/3 of town.
- There is definitely recruiting, I don't know if this is cult or Mafia... I am NOT a recruiter.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:15 GMT
#846
If there is scum, I think vivax is scum, however, I don't want to make any assumptions about the set up on day 1 given that it seems like it might be bastard...

So I'm going to leave my vote on HolyFlare regardless if he's town because I know for a fact we're not on the same team and do not win together.

I think everyone who is on my faction (or probably even the other faction) should follow suit and we will get more information about the set up on night 1.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:18 GMT
#847
Hold on, I just re-read my mail pm, I am wrong.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:19 GMT
#849
I win with town, but I can also win if I'm recruited by one of the scum factions... I think that's right................. Bleh.

So I think we already have some scum claims if I go back to read role discussions.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:25 GMT
#853
On April 06 2019 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Where my Hindu/Arbic mathematicians man I looking for them since they are my friends!

Here I think LS actually claims scum or cult like 3 or 4 times in a row.

Grack and Damdred are both town that can be converted, take them off your lynch list for today.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:26 GMT
#855
My vote is going on LightningStrike, but I wonder if anyone else has claimed scum.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:32 GMT
#861
On April 08 2019 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
##differentiate: raynpelikoneet/damdred

Opposite factions, possibly both town... HOWEVER

I don't actually think that rayn is as town as my original read given my review of set up and his posting. Reasons:

He says that if you have other win cons than you are 3rd party, not town after he already claims that he also has other wincons (and he's like "I'm going to ignore them")

Then he proceeds to give a few loosely packed scum/town reads

And proceeds to say he doesn't actually care about the game.

Statement 1 and 3 seem pretty disingenuous.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:33 GMT
#863
On April 08 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:25 Eywa- wrote:
On April 06 2019 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Where my Hindu/Arbic mathematicians man I looking for them since they are my friends!

Here I think LS actually claims scum or cult like 3 or 4 times in a row.

Grack and Damdred are both town that can be converted, take them off your lynch list for today.


Do you really believe you have the answer to the mafia faction in your PM and damdred and grack do too and lightningstrike would just go all out and reveal that he's mafia?

That's the point you're trying to put forward. I don't think you're stupid so why do you think this?

I don't think the answer is clearly in your role PM, but if you claim to be a recruiter, and each faction has to kill the other faction's recruiters... WELLLLLL that's either cult or scum 100% guaranteed.

I think it's possible that he just overlooked this, obviously you received a different wincon than the majority of us...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2019-04-07 18:39:08
April 07 2019 18:34 GMT
#864
On April 06 2019 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 06 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
Also if we have three factions with part of town having sub win conditions that have to eliminate a third party why for example would Roman's show themselves so early

If you have a wincon having to eliminate a "third party" then you are not town.


On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.



On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.


Statements in red cannot all be true and genuine.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:36 GMT
#867
The last part of my last quote from Rayn seems to indicate that he's town with possible conversion, but his first two posts strike me as weird, I still don't think it's a good today lynch.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:39 GMT
#868
FUCK
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:39 GMT
#869
I didn't quote, I clicked Edit... My bad :-/
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:40 GMT
#870
Original post had no red or bold or statement at the end, I just quoted, new post should be that one...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:40 GMT
#872
On April 06 2019 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
Also if we have three factions with part of town having sub win conditions that have to eliminate a third party why for example would Roman's show themselves so early

If you have a wincon having to eliminate a "third party" then you are not town.


On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.



On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.


Statements in red cannot all be true and genuine.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:41 GMT
#873
On April 08 2019 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The parts you bolded don't say that. Are you just bad at reading?

I feel like you trying to deny what I'm saying while claiming the same role as me means that you are not the same role and are in fact scum.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:43 GMT
#875
On April 08 2019 03:41 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The parts you bolded don't say that. Are you just bad at reading?

I feel like you trying to deny what I'm saying while claiming the same role as me means that you are not the same role and are in fact scum.

I am very confident that there are other players here that can back what I'm saying, likely Grack and Damdred.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:44 GMT
#876
You're claiming that you want to be recruited by Rome, but do not have a wincon that involves killing Arabs?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:45 GMT
#877
On April 08 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
You're claiming that you want to be recruited by Rome, but do not have a wincon that involves killing Arabs?

I'm calling bs.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:46 GMT
#879
On April 08 2019 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.

So me calling you out was accurate... Why did you argue it?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:48 GMT
#883
On April 08 2019 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said i dont have that, i said i dont need to kill townies in order to win which is what i thoguht Damdred was originally saying, that he ONLY wins if certain townies aka me die.

I'm thinking (based on the familiarity between you and some other players) you play too much mafia for that to be a legitimate misunderstanding between you and damdred.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:49 GMT
#884
On April 08 2019 03:48 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said i dont have that, i said i dont need to kill townies in order to win which is what i thoguht Damdred was originally saying, that he ONLY wins if certain townies aka me die.

I'm thinking (based on the familiarity between you and some other players) you play too much mafia for that to be a legitimate misunderstanding between you and damdred.

Again, this is with the assumption that I know the wording in the role PM that you both received based on your claims.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:50 GMT
#885
On April 08 2019 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:46 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.

So me calling you out was accurate... Why did you argue it?

You called me out on something i NEVER FUCKING SAID. Why are you so terrible at reading?

This rage is fake right?

I am putting the vote in now though.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:53 GMT
#889
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.

Obviously he's reading that he needs to kill Romans and you are Romans... You also have to kill Arabs, so where is your confusion? Is it the use of the word town? Your role PM doesn't say you have to kill mafia right?

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Confusion is fake?
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April 07 2019 18:54 GMT
#892
On April 08 2019 03:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.

Obviously he's reading that he needs to kill Romans and you are Romans... You also have to kill Arabs, so where is your confusion? Is it the use of the word town? Your role PM doesn't say you have to kill mafia right?

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Confusion is fake?

Well... OK, your "optional win condition... Jesus Christ, you're not actually arguing that you don't see where he's coming from if you're claiming same role opposite faction...
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April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#893
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?
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April 07 2019 18:56 GMT
#896
On April 08 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not cult, but if he recruits certain people they win and i think leave the game which will reduce town numbers even further which is why i dont really feel like playing because it's a retarded role list, considering there are two of those.

Your departure can be arranged.
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April 07 2019 18:56 GMT
#897
On April 08 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

I know but back then i didn't realise it.
Whatever i am not really interested in arguing about this. Do whatever you want, i am going to bed.

But then why do you argue your point if you no longer believe in the point you made originally? O_O
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April 07 2019 18:58 GMT
#901
On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?
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April 07 2019 18:59 GMT
#903
On April 08 2019 03:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Eywa I like most of what you've posted over the last couple of pages so I don't want to have to kill you. However I need to know why you think scum can recruit you otherwise it just seems like we should lynch you now to avoid you being recruited.

Well, I don't really see the point of this game having a subset of town that can be recruited by masons, so logically it's either cult or scum...

You know... Just by process of eliminating what doesn't make sense.
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April 07 2019 19:01 GMT
#905
Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter.

LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.
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April 07 2019 19:03 GMT
#907
On April 08 2019 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?

Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.

Clearly my argument was about your wincon saying you have to kill Arabs IF you have the role you're claiming... The fact that you don't see that is such a misplay that I don't see how it can come from anyone who plays mafia even semi-regularly.

Please accept this as a fair statement because I think this argument has run it's course, is now pointless and anti-town, I don't think I could muster enough votes against you D1 even if I wanted to.

I think LS is the better lynch anyway because he actually seemingly claims recruiter, where as you just seem scummy to me which are differing levels of certainty.
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April 07 2019 19:06 GMT
#910
KelsierSC (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): Mocsta
Eywa- (1): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Tumblewood

Not voting (5): Damdred, Mig, Meapak_Ziphh, [UoN]Sentinel, LightningStrike

With 3 hours left? Come on guys...
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April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#911
On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.

Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.

How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?
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April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#912
On April 08 2019 04:07 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.

Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.

How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?

Ugh... Why am I even engaging scum..
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April 07 2019 19:10 GMT
#916
On April 08 2019 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On April 08 2019 04:01 Eywa- wrote:
Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter.

LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.

hmmmmmmm

This post I don't like. And I don't like it a lot. afaik LS has claimed he wins with the town.

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On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.


This role does not seem inherently anti-town, and idk if the whole roman/arab thing is necessarily alignment indicative. Getting invited into a QT doesn't seem like it changes whether you win with town or scum. I'd rather lynch people who are acting scummy.

You're joking right? Everyone is claiming (including myself) that this is an anti-town win condition.
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April 07 2019 19:11 GMT
#917
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM
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April 07 2019 19:13 GMT
#921
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.
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April 07 2019 19:14 GMT
#922
On April 08 2019 04:13 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.

Oh yeah, we don't win with town though if that happens.. SORRY
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April 07 2019 19:16 GMT
#927
On April 08 2019 04:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:14 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:13 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.

Oh yeah, we don't win with town though if that happens.. SORRY

what exactly do you know about LS??????

Uhmm... he full claimed recruiter...

On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.
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April 07 2019 19:17 GMT
#928
On April 08 2019 04:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:14 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:13 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.

Oh yeah, we don't win with town though if that happens.. SORRY

So you're the only one who has said this means you don't win with the town.

I'm comfortable lynching you now.

I'm not. Rayn claimed multiple win cons, several people have, so yes.. Lynch me when I'm trying to lynch a CLAIMED recruiter who FULFILLS an anti-town win condition.

Fucking lynch me.
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April 07 2019 19:18 GMT
#931
On April 08 2019 04:17 Vivax wrote:
The correct play here is to kill LS so his buddies have to play with town instead of fulfilling their selfish win conditions.

THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING
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April 07 2019 19:19 GMT
#932
On April 08 2019 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:16 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:14 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:13 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.

Oh yeah, we don't win with town though if that happens.. SORRY

what exactly do you know about LS??????

Uhmm... he full claimed recruiter...

On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.

He says recruit them into a qt.

He doesn't say change alignments

He doesn't say leave the game

idk where you got all these ideas from.

So the 4 people who claimed the same role as me do not have the same victory conditions is what you're saying? Your logical reasoning is truly fascinating. Tell me more.
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April 07 2019 19:21 GMT
#938
On April 08 2019 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:16 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:14 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:13 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM

It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.

My, Grack and Damdred all win if LS recruits us.

Oh yeah, we don't win with town though if that happens.. SORRY

what exactly do you know about LS??????

Uhmm... he full claimed recruiter...

On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.

ok yes but you seem to know that you can win if he recruits you, etc, and i only know that he can recruit people into a QT. i have 0 extra information about him

Everyone who shares my role can win if they get recruited, Rayn also claimed that he wins if he gets recruited... So killing a claimed recruiter makes sense.

Everyone sharing my faction is then confirmed town that can only win with TOWN

Grack, Damdred and myself.
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April 07 2019 19:22 GMT
#940
On April 08 2019 04:20 Mig wrote:
How does it make any sense that Eywa says he wins if LS recruits him but then he also wants to lynch LS?

Because it forwards the town win condition....
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April 07 2019 19:23 GMT
#943
Alright, so we're not lynching a claimed recruiter when people who get recruited automatically win.

Sweet... The current highest wagon is trying to lynch someone who's pushing the only pro-town lynch here... K, I guess I just make that wagon bigger?
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April 07 2019 19:25 GMT
#944
Well, LS, at least you know with certainty now that you can take your action on me tonight :D
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April 07 2019 19:25 GMT
#945
Like, I don't understand this town
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April 07 2019 19:26 GMT
#948
On April 08 2019 04:20 Mig wrote:
How does it make any sense that Eywa says he wins if LS recruits him but then he also wants to lynch LS?

The most reasonable answer is that I'm actually a roman recruiter or pleb... Both are false, I win with LS or with town, but if town refuses my offer, I guess I'll take the 1/3 shot that LS picks me.
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April 07 2019 19:26 GMT
#951
On April 08 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you want to kill a recruiter who removes people from the game if they win :D

that's literally like christmas for free lynches and information

Because those people are already confirmed town...
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April 07 2019 19:28 GMT
#956
On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.

You think he wants to be recruited by the Romans just for shits and giggles? MZ your reasoning is so bad when many people have claimed similar roles to what I'm claiming.
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April 07 2019 19:29 GMT
#959
On April 08 2019 04:27 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 08 2019 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you want to kill a recruiter who removes people from the game if they win :D

that's literally like christmas for free lynches and information

HOW THE FUCK DO WE KNOW THEY GET REMOVED FROM THE GAME?

Only Eywa is saying this. He has way too much information about this shit. Literally all we know comes from LS who said he gets to put people in a QT. Where the fuck did we get this whole "removed from the game" bullshit from.

!!!!!!

We don't know that they get removed from the game. It's just a reasonable assumption... Why would they continue playing if they've already won?
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April 07 2019 19:30 GMT
#961
I've literally never seen a mafia game where people don't want to lynch a claimed recruiter that is not a claimed mason.
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April 07 2019 19:31 GMT
#963
On April 08 2019 04:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:
Alright, so we're not lynching a claimed recruiter when people who get recruited automatically win.

Sweet... The current highest wagon is trying to lynch someone who's pushing the only pro-town lynch here... K, I guess I just make that wagon bigger?

You are the only person saying this. You clearly know something the rest of us don't about how this mechanic works. You want to lynch someone for their role, that is not a pro-town lynch lmao.

Your lack of full claim at this point is a scumclaim imo.


My role works exactly the same way just on an individual level. I don't believe it makes him mafia, he just has an alternate win con that would remove all those people from the game but he can still win with town. It's literally what my PM says too and why it's so shit to put in a game because it's anti town to remove 1 person, let alone 4-5.

That's why we should be lynching people we think are mafia. These people can play with the shitty mechanics and recruit people for their selfish victory if they wish but the fun of mafia is solving alignments for me so they can do what they want.

So HF let me get this straight, your roll LITERALLY says that you can "remove" someone from the game? Because that's not at all what LS has claimed.

My role says I win if LS recruits me, you can bet that I will stop playing if that happens.
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April 07 2019 19:32 GMT
#966
On April 08 2019 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:
I sort of here but the people who want me to lynch me because of my claim and not because of my play is pretty scummy. I dont I get removed from the game if I get my alternate win condition fulfilled but will ask Onegu on that.

But why would you continue playing if you won via your alternate condition?
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April 07 2019 19:34 GMT
#970
On April 08 2019 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:
Alright, so we're not lynching a claimed recruiter when people who get recruited automatically win.

Sweet... The current highest wagon is trying to lynch someone who's pushing the only pro-town lynch here... K, I guess I just make that wagon bigger?

You are the only person saying this. You clearly know something the rest of us don't about how this mechanic works. You want to lynch someone for their role, that is not a pro-town lynch lmao.

Your lack of full claim at this point is a scumclaim imo.


My role works exactly the same way just on an individual level. I don't believe it makes him mafia, he just has an alternate win con that would remove all those people from the game but he can still win with town. It's literally what my PM says too and why it's so shit to put in a game because it's anti town to remove 1 person, let alone 4-5.

That's why we should be lynching people we think are mafia. These people can play with the shitty mechanics and recruit people for their selfish victory if they wish but the fun of mafia is solving alignments for me so they can do what they want.

So HF let me get this straight, your roll LITERALLY says that you can "remove" someone from the game? Because that's not at all what LS has claimed.

My role says I win if LS recruits me, you can bet that I will stop playing if that happens.

Ok cool let's kill you then. LS has said that you'll be put in a QT with him.

Cool, then he'll recruit one of the other players that have claimed my role and I'll be proven right and you'll look like a bum.
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April 07 2019 19:36 GMT
#973
On April 08 2019 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:23 Eywa- wrote:
Alright, so we're not lynching a claimed recruiter when people who get recruited automatically win.

Sweet... The current highest wagon is trying to lynch someone who's pushing the only pro-town lynch here... K, I guess I just make that wagon bigger?

You are the only person saying this. You clearly know something the rest of us don't about how this mechanic works. You want to lynch someone for their role, that is not a pro-town lynch lmao.

Your lack of full claim at this point is a scumclaim imo.


My role works exactly the same way just on an individual level. I don't believe it makes him mafia, he just has an alternate win con that would remove all those people from the game but he can still win with town. It's literally what my PM says too and why it's so shit to put in a game because it's anti town to remove 1 person, let alone 4-5.

That's why we should be lynching people we think are mafia. These people can play with the shitty mechanics and recruit people for their selfish victory if they wish but the fun of mafia is solving alignments for me so they can do what they want.

So HF let me get this straight, your roll LITERALLY says that you can "remove" someone from the game? Because that's not at all what LS has claimed.

My role says I win if LS recruits me, you can bet that I will stop playing if that happens.

Ok cool let's kill you then. LS has said that you'll be put in a QT with him.

Honestly, like... What? 1.5 hours left? You're on the highest wagon 7-2 and you're trying to start a brand new wagon. That's just terrible mafia play as any alignment.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:39 GMT
#980
Alright, well I'll see you guys tomorrow!

Too bad we couldn't lynch a claimed recruiter when a bunch of people have that in their role.. Almost like it's a key part of the set up.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:43 GMT
#986
On April 08 2019 04:41 Mig wrote:
Meapak do you think eywa is mafia? As a mafia who thought he was at risk of being recruited by LS would he out himself and freak out right before lynch like this. He could have just stayed quiet.

Eywa do you think meapak is mafia?

I think Meapak is town.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:45 GMT
#988
On April 08 2019 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:43 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:41 Mig wrote:
Meapak do you think eywa is mafia? As a mafia who thought he was at risk of being recruited by LS would he out himself and freak out right before lynch like this. He could have just stayed quiet.

Eywa do you think meapak is mafia?

I think Meapak is town.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:24 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

fuckin lol


Yup
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:54 GMT
#1000
On April 08 2019 04:48 Mig wrote:
Just seems like a dumb play for mafia to make. He wasnt under any pressure, he could have just sat back and stayed quiet. Why get in a big fight over roles with rayn then out yourself over the LS stuff. Its not impossible mafia does it but doesnt it seem more like an emotional town play? And I guess you think all the stuff with him claiming to misread his role pm was faked?

Eywa smh. I

Honestly, it's against my secondary win condition to push LS. So why push?

I didn't expect a lynch. I'm just already starting to build my case against the Roman equivalent of LS' role, so that when I re-introduce this same case against another player AFTER some flips, it will make sense for us to do it.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:55 GMT
#1001
On April 08 2019 04:53 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:43 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 04:41 Mig wrote:
Meapak do you think eywa is mafia? As a mafia who thought he was at risk of being recruited by LS would he out himself and freak out right before lynch like this. He could have just stayed quiet.

Eywa do you think meapak is mafia?

I think Meapak is town.

why tf are you voting him then?

Because he's the biggest wagon and I don't think he's going to bring any valuable reads to the table.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:59 GMT
#1004
On April 08 2019 04:57 Mig wrote:
Eywa even if LS is a recruiter you have no idea what his alignment is and you have no idea what alignments he recruits from. Maybe some of the people he recruits are mafia/3rd party.

If you think LS is mafia then fine lynch him but if you think hes part of town its a waste of time.

Why dont you just try lynching the person you think is mostly likely to flip mafia.

I'm pretty confident on my claim.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 20:13 GMT
#1018
On April 08 2019 05:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Voting eywa cos the last couple of pages were just gross.
If you're voting someone who you think is town you must be scum.
Simples.

If I were scum I would have lied.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 23:09 GMT
#1189
I don't think there are any mafia Romans or Arabs post-flip. Anyone who claimed Hindu-Arab is just going to be VT after tonight based on this flip.

That is me, Grack and Damdred.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 00:24 GMT
#1200
On April 08 2019 08:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Was I the only one who thought MZ was town prior to his flip?

Nope, he was pretty likely to flip town based on his play.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 01:00 GMT
#1202
On April 08 2019 09:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Fibonacci Mafia - Day One


The year is 1202. The great maritime Republic of Pisa is ground zero for a revolutionary new book. Liber Abacci, written by your own Leonardo Bonacci of Pisa (Fibonacci), presents the Hindu-Arabic numerals as a more precise numbering system for measurements and conversions. The famed Fibonacci numbers are just one example of his point.

While the book stirs up discussion among the elite and intellectuals of Pisa, rumors of operatives from the rival Republic of Genoa come to Pisa to sow discord abound. Your mission as loyal citizens of Pisa is to root out this evil weed before it can poison the whole Republic!
In case anyone else didn't realise it appears that Genoa is mafia

According to Wiki: Genoa and Pisa were Martime Republics at war during the early 13th century.

Both Genoa and Pisa were allies of the Byzantine (read: Roman empire). However, given Fibonacci is home based in Pisa, and the multiple thread references to Roman and town, I will presume that only Pisa infers Roman.


Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Fucking Genoa amirite?
I'm probably nitpicking but I find it odd KSC could fixate on this off the bat. Maybe hes a more critical reader than me, who knows.

KSC was always a good D1 lynch regardless of this info.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:28 GMT
#1316
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:30 GMT
#1318
Also, it's funny that Rayn even argued when I claimed his "idc about my other victory conditions" was disingenuous. Hahaha

But he is also likely town.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:31 GMT
#1320
On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:34 GMT
#1322
On April 08 2019 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:30 Eywa- wrote:
Also, it's funny that Rayn even argued when I claimed his "idc about my other victory conditions" was disingenuous. Hahaha

But he is also likely town.

I genuinely hadn't read LS' claim or it was not out there at the time. I don't lie, epsecially when i am claiming something, unless i am just fakeclaiming which i was not.

Well, the proof is in the pudding as they say.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:36 GMT
#1324
On April 08 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.

I don't understand, that's what LS literally said.
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
My alternate win condition was to recruit both Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a QT with me before End game but I do win with the town.


Both is 2, you + damdred + grackaroni is 3, so if LS is telling the truth one of you is lying, no?

I mean... It would be pretty shitty for him if he had to pick 2 players and there were only 2 valid targets... It would be so easy for him to have no way of winning.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:40 GMT
#1328
On April 08 2019 21:37 disformation wrote:
mh tbh i think ill just wait for the nightactions to see what happens with the roman/hindu-arab situation.
obv cant fault you ppl for going for you win con. and town screwing over town for 2nd win cons imo happens quite a bit in themed games. i also wasnt too careful with my role... sooooo... whatevs.
guess ill try to find some scummers and see how far i get. xD

To be clear, I'm not saying he shouldn't go with his second win condition, but him switching once information about it became available automatically makes the first statement about not caring for those win conditions disingenuous and I feel like it's an overall scummy play...

Now he's probably IC at this point or at least 90%, but I'm just trying to educate the man on why his first statement cannot be genuine in any context and should probably never have come from town... That is unless all Romans are scum. X to doubt.

I.e. my first push on him was 100% accurate and he was arguing it for some reason, which I would expect from scum 🤔
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:42 GMT
#1330
On April 08 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:36 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.

I don't understand, that's what LS literally said.
On April 07 2019 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
My alternate win condition was to recruit both Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a QT with me before End game but I do win with the town.


Both is 2, you + damdred + grackaroni is 3, so if LS is telling the truth one of you is lying, no?

I mean... It would be pretty shitty for him if he had to pick 2 players and there were only 2 valid targets... It would be so easy for him to have no way of winning.

He wins with town anyways so what's the problem, it's just an alternative wincondition.

Actually you should easily know what ia m saying is true if your role really is what you say it is.

Read my last post and you should understand why I am not going to argue any of your newer points.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:44 GMT
#1332
On April 08 2019 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol i am just done talking to you if you are dumb enough to think when new information comes around it's "scummy" to change your mind.

It's NOT.

The very fact that it's NOT and that it's an AUTOMATIC that you should change your mind makes the first statement....


Wait for it....









Waaaaaaiiit for it....















Waiiiiiiiiiit.........












DISINGENUOUS






BY DEFAULT.

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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:46 GMT
#1334
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:47 GMT
#1336
On April 08 2019 21:46 Eywa- wrote:
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...

Do you understand how the first statement is disingenuous because you will eat it if it's present?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:48 GMT
#1339
On April 08 2019 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I said idc because i dont know how to achieve them and then i think i learned.

Disingenuous
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:49 GMT
#1342
On April 08 2019 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:46 Eywa- wrote:
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...

More like i dont care about the pie because i dont know where the pie is.
Then learn there is a pie in front of me.

Disingenuous
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:54 GMT
#1344
I'm not going to play to my alternate win conditions guys, I'll just play town.



































Disclaimer, if I happen to find a way to win without you via one of my alternate win conditions I definitely will execute on it... Because really, who wouldn't. Don't question my previous statement however, because I do want you to treat me as town, even though I'm sort of 3rd party up to this point... But I don't care about my third party win condition right now because I think it's stupid and selfish and I would never do that to town unless I found a way to win that way.
















P.S. I will never betray town in order to win this game and this game is stupid. I just want this game to be Finnish.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:56 GMT
#1346
On April 08 2019 21:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:49 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:46 Eywa- wrote:
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...

More like i dont care about the pie because i dont know where the pie is.
Then learn there is a pie in front of me.

Disingenuous

[image loading]

not candid or sincere,

The alternative is definitely more of an insult, I didn't want to make assumptions
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 12:59 GMT
#1348
On April 08 2019 21:56 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:49 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:46 Eywa- wrote:
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...

More like i dont care about the pie because i dont know where the pie is.
Then learn there is a pie in front of me.

Disingenuous

[image loading]

not candid or sincere,

The alternative is definitely more of an insult, I didn't want to make assumptions

Though I suppose you can also have a debate about amoral vs immoral.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:01 GMT
#1351
On April 08 2019 22:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am currently trying to cool a fight between you and another townie, that's pro-town. But make your own decisions mate.

😂 Yeah, VE is town.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:02 GMT
#1354
On April 08 2019 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 22:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi VE are you mafia?

What do you think? I could say no but THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY REGARDLESS EH?!?!

idk the only thing i remember you doing was to agree on MZ and we all know what he flipped so where's your head at?

If you are the role that you claim to be, aren't you essentially guaranteed to be Finnish with this game?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:03 GMT
#1356
On April 08 2019 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 22:01 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 22:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am currently trying to cool a fight between you and another townie, that's pro-town. But make your own decisions mate.

😂 Yeah, VE is town.

that's like the easiest thing to get town cred from as mafia, i learned that in like 2011.

Oh my god, look at you with your big boy pants. I've been playing mafia for 8 years! I know best
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:06 GMT
#1358
I'm full claiming Hindu/Arab Mathemagician, so I'll probably lurk all of day 2 since there's no need for anyone to read my faction as we are screwed after losing our recruiter (likely) and assassin (confirmed). But hey, we still win with town.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:06 GMT
#1361
On April 08 2019 22:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Eywa you taking offense at someone stating their own experience is reflecting poorly on you. I'm just saying.

rayn is totally right to question me, I'm a fucking BOMB mafia player.

Yeah, it's fine that he questions me, I'm just openly mocking him at this point.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:07 GMT
#1362
On April 08 2019 22:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doctors are still possibly a thing can you stop diluting their pool? Jesus lord, keep your pants on bbyboi

I am trying to win with town, calm down
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:08 GMT
#1365
On April 08 2019 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this wasn't really a fight since we both think we are town, more like a dick measuring contest and you got the shorter one since i THINK i have some powerful friends in mafia who have you know guns, and i got leverage.

I am saving this post, it is pure gold.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:11 GMT
#1367
I still think VE is town regardless of him breaking up the trolling.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:14 GMT
#1368
The hard claim of big dick is hands down the best thing I've seen on any mafia site 😂
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 13:23 GMT
#1372
On April 08 2019 22:21 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mommy and daddy stop it!


Rofl. This thread has been a goldmine

Yw
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 14:01 GMT
#1391
On April 08 2019 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
I will never use my power because it removes me and I'm a great asset and could get mafia to waste a shot. Unless we find who I need and they're mafia then I could potentially trade.

well this is just plain out bullshit.

Damn, when he calls it, THEN it's BS ;D
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 14:06 GMT
#1393
On April 08 2019 22:44 Vivax wrote:
I'm reading this game after having chrome accidentally autotranslate it into German. I have to say, that makes it more entertaining. I feel bad for any pleb who only speaks English. Disformation try it, it's funny as shit.

On topic: Why doesn't MZs flip surprise me in the slightest.

And where is Palmars greatness. He usually has a huge aura of swag surrounding him. Hope to see some good shit from him on D2.

I thought about this as well, the argument was between two people with different native languages and writing styles that are not necessarily properly structured... It's easy enough for the main point to get lost in translation.

I had to play a full mafia game through a translation tool that needed a phrase to go from Japanese to English to Japanese then back to English without changing (japanese = japanese, english = english)... Basically, the sentence had to reach equilibrium... It was absolutely impossible to convey any meaningful thoughts.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 14:29 GMT
#1405
On April 08 2019 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:10 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.

This is kinda bullshit you knowingly joined a themed game ya?

I feel like the game is also bastard, not sure if that was initially stated -- to be honest, I didn't actually read the description.

- My role is town, but I don't win with all of town... From the looks of it, I only win with 1/3 of town.
- There is definitely recruiting, I don't know if this is cult or Mafia... I am NOT a recruiter.

This is what i dont get

Rayn / damdred / eywa all same role supposedly.

Rayn opens with needing to kill faction
Damdred expands this

Nothing in eywa talks about killing off faction


We don't have to kill off the faction, we need to kill certain people within the faction, which is why I assumed it would be scum and others assumed town... Anyway, the assassin flip proves I was wrong about the alignment.

We are IC now that we can't fulfill our victory on the Hindu/Arab side though.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 14:37 GMT
#1409
On April 08 2019 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your role is that you get 1-1 but you dont win, you just die?


Did you pay any attention?

I love this post more than you can possibly know.

Will you be my lover?

@LS I want a divorce.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 14:55 GMT
#1415
On April 08 2019 23:54 disformation wrote:
i think it was more like "i dont want to use my power but if the other guy is scum i might consider a trade"?

I think he just needs to be very confident that it's a good idea, ideally for 2 of his win conditions before he Brexits.
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