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On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods.
I agree that damdred used to be a very good d1 player. However that was a long time ago.
Admittedly there have been fewer games in recent years and I've played in few of those but my impression of damdred now is that he disappears for full phases and misses votes etc. So I let him do his own thing and then he wins or loses.
If your meta read is based on him being an active player d1 who makes good case then I'd just have to disagree. Not sure if you are lying or just using an outdated read
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On April 08 2019 20:22 disformation wrote:
yeah, damdred can be really good as town day 1 and i was hoping he would come back and crap a twon rainbow all over the thread and make the game easier. so i agree that he has done 0 scum hunting d1.
but ive also see him be afk as fuck as town.
so he has both a history of being very good d1 and being afk as fuck d1.
so your statement is not false, but you leave out 50% of the story.
so yeah damdred is not looking good and you can be right.
but i also have to entertain the possibility that you went for an easy person to push and conveniently left out that the guy has a bit of a history of being afk as fuck as town.
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He's still a great vigi shot. Scummy low activity players are so fucking hot with the vigs these days.
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On April 08 2019 20:31 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods. I agree that damdred used to be a very good d1 player. However that was a long time ago. Admittedly there have been fewer games in recent years and I've played in few of those but my impression of damdred now is that he disappears for full phases and misses votes etc. So I let him do his own thing and then he wins or loses. If your meta read is based on him being an active player d1 who makes good case then I'd just have to disagree. Not sure if you are lying or just using an outdated read
No, that's not my read, I was just telling you you were wrong.
Can you just slow down for a sec and actually read?
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yeah we have a bunch of shady low activity players. shooting into them would be appreciated.
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On April 08 2019 20:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:31 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods. I agree that damdred used to be a very good d1 player. However that was a long time ago. Admittedly there have been fewer games in recent years and I've played in few of those but my impression of damdred now is that he disappears for full phases and misses votes etc. So I let him do his own thing and then he wins or loses. If your meta read is based on him being an active player d1 who makes good case then I'd just have to disagree. Not sure if you are lying or just using an outdated read No, that's not my read, I was just telling you you were wrong. Can you just slow down for a sec and actually read?
Oh don't get so prickly
I was typing as you posted
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Sentinel looks really, really bad.
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On April 08 2019 20:33 disformation wrote:
yeah we have a bunch of shady low activity players. shooting into them would be appreciated.
On April 08 2019 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Sentinel looks really, really bad.
*cough**wink*
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@Palmar
I don't think you are lying with regards to your case on damdred I just have to disagree with it.
Worrying/trying to figure out alignments and the "third party positioning" stuff can all be explained by it being a themed game where nonone has any idsa whats happening.
Being afk is explained by it being damdred. I agree we can probably drop it.
With sentinel. Lots of people look bad including me but I was super confused and didn't keep up over the weekend so . I'm going to wait till night resolves. hopefully a bunch of people die and reveal more about the game.
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have the slight feeling im not subtle enough for these type of games. well trying to do a bit of work at work.
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Sentinel had a bit going into the game and kept with it for way too long, to the point he did nothing useful on day 1 because he was doing his bit.
Wonder where we've seen sentinel hide behind a gimmick as mafia before? 
Also, his last minute voteswitch has a few implications. Did he know he was too late? Clocks aren't a hard thing to work. I always find it very unrealistic people miss deadlines accidentally.
Or maybe I'm just wrong on Damdred.
Who knows
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On April 08 2019 20:43 Palmar wrote:Sentinel had a bit going into the game and kept with it for way too long, to the point he did nothing useful on day 1 because he was doing his bit. Wonder where we've seen sentinel hide behind a gimmick as mafia before? Also, his last minute voteswitch has a few implications. Did he know he was too late? Clocks aren't a hard thing to work. I always find it very unrealistic people miss deadlines accidentally. Or maybe I'm just wrong on Damdred. Who knows
Agree on the voteswitch thing. Looks like bullshit
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Actually all the people who threw their votes away look bad. Vivax has been super underwhelming compared to being the smartest person in town last game.
It's also pretty likely the people who voted with me on Damdred are basically all or mostly town.
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Palmar did you have any reads on anyone except Damdred?
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I am like 90% sure Damdred can't be mafia.
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Posts where mocsta mentioned Vivax:
On April 08 2019 17:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially I don't know how you arrived at this tbh +1 i need some prompting there I think Sentinel looks terrible too Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game. mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile. I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason" im iffy about tubesock. in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof". Not scummy per se, but not town either. Im still happy to get rid of Vivax Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either. i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia. in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation.
On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Palmar vivax mafia
Mig maybe mafia
Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache.
I forgot about ksc. No idea
Goinf to bed
Going to settle on vivax
##vote: vivax
That's all from his entire filter.
What a shitty vote. No reasoning, no purpose.
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On April 08 2019 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
Palmar did you have any reads on anyone except Damdred?
Yeah, I can make a list
Townreads
tubesock
Weak town
eywa
pandain
Jock
FF
disfo
tumblewood
No idea/haven't read
Grack
rayn
VE
KelsierSC
LS
Mocsta
Don't read on principle
HF
Slam
maybe mafia
Mig
Vivax
scumreads
Damdred
Sentinel
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On April 08 2019 20:54 Jockmcplop wrote:Posts where mocsta mentioned Vivax: Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 17:39 Mocsta wrote:On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially I don't know how you arrived at this tbh +1 i need some prompting there I think Sentinel looks terrible too Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game. mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile. I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason" im iffy about tubesock. in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof". Not scummy per se, but not town either. Im still happy to get rid of Vivax Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either. i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia. in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation. Show nested quote +On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Palmar vivax mafia
Mig maybe mafia
Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache.
I forgot about ksc. No idea
Goinf to bed
Going to settle on vivax
##vote: vivax That's all from his entire filter. What a shitty vote. No reasoning, no purpose.
beentheredonethat
On April 08 2019 06:27 disformation wrote:bleh. slight headache isnt helping. hf mentioned mocsta and i did a look at that filter. also another meh. like this is the first and only mention of vivix in his filter: Show nested quote +On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Palmar vivax mafia
Mig maybe mafia
Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache.
I forgot about ksc. No idea
Goinf to bed
Going to settle on vivax
##vote: vivax
maybe i should stop trying to figure out everyone at once and go one person at a time like plammar.
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On April 08 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am like 90% sure Damdred can't be mafia.
Based on roles or reads?
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