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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2019 12:48 GMT
#721

There are 2 minutes between his first accusation of TMI and his second accusation of TMI and in between those times LS had posted nothing setup related whatsoever.


Should be there are 2 minutes between his first accusation fo TMI and his second accusation of TMI and in between those accusations and his return 18 hours later LS had posted nothing setup related that could be construed as further TMI to add to MZ's original accusations.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 07 2019 12:51 GMT
#722
#720
I had to check could couldnt believe I missed that (18hr vs 2min).
Look its actually 34min, but point is clear. MZ had access to both quotes at he time of his first post.

ok. SO MY LAST hurdle for MZ is that I have low confidence to read him.. i mean, last game I thought he was lock scum at the end...

Are you confidently crapshooting with MZ, or actually think hes lock scum?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 07 2019 12:54 GMT
#723
Not feeling the MiG lynch at all. Nor the Palmar one.

I’m more interested in Eywa. Anyone want to talk about him?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2019 12:55 GMT
#724
On April 07 2019 21:51 Mocsta wrote:
#720
I had to check could couldnt believe I missed that (18hr vs 2min).
Look its actually 34min, but point is clear. MZ had access to both quotes at he time of his first post.

ok. SO MY LAST hurdle for MZ is that I have low confidence to read him.. i mean, last game I thought he was lock scum at the end...

Are you confidently crapshooting with MZ, or actually think hes lock scum?


Aha, so it's even worse!!!

On April 07 2019 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad

Could be 1 mafia atm might grow to more like the series itself :o

This is either brilliant or TMI

Leaning towards TMI rn but we'll see


On April 07 2019 04:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:39 Damdred wrote:
This is not to say of course mafia xant be scattered amongst the groups....

This is likely true.

More TMI LS?

Also sidebar, ty to whoever posted that one punch man vid, watched the whole thing and enjoyed it.


12 minutes between the TMI posts, we're all wrong! :D

16 since last TMI post to accusations.

On April 07 2019 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Aight I'm caught up. People who are townreading LS right now, I want solid concrete reasons for it. In my opinion he has had several TMI posts.

We're not killing HF today, since most of this game played in end of the world I was hoping ppl would have learned that lesson.


He can't think there are several if there are:

A) Only two
B) Both standpoints are contradictory

Pretty good person to lynch if you ask me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 07 2019 13:05 GMT
#725
On April 07 2019 21:54 Tubesock wrote:
Not feeling the MiG lynch at all. Nor the Palmar one.

I’m more interested in Eywa. Anyone want to talk about him?
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 07 2019 13:10 GMT
#726
On April 07 2019 21:54 Tubesock wrote:
Not feeling the MiG lynch at all. Nor the Palmar one.

I’m more interested in Eywa. Anyone want to talk about him?

regular reminder that Eywa still hasnt explained his tr on rayn despite being asked to multiple times. Otherwise I also think his opening posts regarding meta etc were pretty weird. so i have a lean on him, but nothing that feels solid.
meanwhile:
On April 07 2019 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 21:51 Mocsta wrote:
#720
I had to check could couldnt believe I missed that (18hr vs 2min).
Look its actually 34min, but point is clear. MZ had access to both quotes at he time of his first post.

ok. SO MY LAST hurdle for MZ is that I have low confidence to read him.. i mean, last game I thought he was lock scum at the end...

Are you confidently crapshooting with MZ, or actually think hes lock scum?


Aha, so it's even worse!!!

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad

Could be 1 mafia atm might grow to more like the series itself :o

This is either brilliant or TMI

Leaning towards TMI rn but we'll see


Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 04:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:39 Damdred wrote:
This is not to say of course mafia xant be scattered amongst the groups....

This is likely true.

More TMI LS?

Also sidebar, ty to whoever posted that one punch man vid, watched the whole thing and enjoyed it.


12 minutes between the TMI posts, we're all wrong! :D

16 since last TMI post to accusations.

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Aight I'm caught up. People who are townreading LS right now, I want solid concrete reasons for it. In my opinion he has had several TMI posts.

We're not killing HF today, since most of this game played in end of the world I was hoping ppl would have learned that lesson.


He can't think there are several if there are:

A) Only two
B) Both standpoints are contradictory

Pretty good person to lynch if you ask me.

think ill switch to the mz guy.
##vote: mzguy
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 07 2019 13:10 GMT
#727
Mocsta, did Palmar even post before you posted you wanted to kill him?

Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:10 GMT
#728
On April 07 2019 21:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote:
@Mocsta I'm never going to lynch someone based on Meta. Last game literally everyone was off about everyone, and it was in very large part to people being very confident they could "read" people based on playstyle. Furthermore, any competent player (as mafia or town) should be able to diversify their play. And palmar is definitely not stupid.

Palmar could be mafia, but I like his posts enough that he should definitely not be lynched today.


Which posts do you like from Palmar that aren't just rehashes of previously talked about topics?

Me saying things is just so much better than other people saying things. Not to mention the fact that you’re probably gonna waffle off all your good reads anyway.
Computer says mafia
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 07 2019 13:11 GMT
#729
I’ll likely switch to MZ too, but I want to see his responses.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 07 2019 13:14 GMT
#730
On April 07 2019 22:10 Tubesock wrote:
Mocsta, did Palmar even post before you posted you wanted to kill him?

Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything.
How do you foresee me responding to this?

Its all backhand slaps, yeah....

Your first point is so off the mark I'm in shock, and your second point should tend towards a scum read on me.

Tell the truth please.. did you even read what I wrote?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:17 GMT
#731
On April 07 2019 20:17 Mocsta wrote:
Secondly, I agree with Palmar that alt-win con should not cloud the thread, yet, he seemingly is oblivious/ignorant that several others, not just Damdred, have raised alt win-con.


Did they? I admit I'm far from done with reading through the thread, but which other players have claimed alternative win con?

On April 07 2019 20:17 Mocsta wrote:
"I don't believe him" , whilst 'true from Palmar PoV' is the easy/lazy position for him to push... you tell me.
Is easy/lazy more likely to town!palmar, or scum!palmar.


You're missing the point. It's not just that I don't believe his actions make sense, I'm trying to demonstrate that no one should believe him.

The case can be summed up in two points.

1) Damdred didn't post anything that looked like reading the game, just mechanics and role stuff.

2) Damdred's role stuff positions him to act as 3p. The only people who GAIN by being perceived as 3p are mafia.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:19 GMT
#732
Mig's filter is really bad as well. It's essentially an afk filter.

I would complain he hasn't followed up his VE read at all but he's literally not been in the thread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:19 GMT
#733
On April 07 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 22:10 Tubesock wrote:
Mocsta, did Palmar even post before you posted you wanted to kill him?

Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything.
How do you foresee me responding to this?

Its all backhand slaps, yeah....

Your first point is so off the mark I'm in shock, and your second point should tend towards a scum read on me.

Tell the truth please.. did you even read what I wrote?

tbf I wouldn't really blame anyone for mostly skimming your stuff.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 07 2019 13:21 GMT
#734
MZ wagon doesn't really convince me. Feel like there is a bunch of opportunists hopping on. Naming disfo and Slam.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 07 2019 13:24 GMT
#735
On April 07 2019 22:21 Vivax wrote:
MZ wagon doesn't really convince me. Feel like there is a bunch of opportunists hopping on. Naming disfo and Slam.

well what do you think of the arguments against mz?
also not entirely sure how i am opportunistic tbh
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:24 GMT
#736
On April 07 2019 22:21 Vivax wrote:
MZ wagon doesn't really convince me. Feel like there is a bunch of opportunists hopping on. Naming disfo and Slam.

It's kinda scummy that you haven't yet told everyone how smart I am
Computer says mafia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 07 2019 13:25 GMT
#737
Palmar #731
First ctrl+F i found
On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.


I noted your points on Damdred, and I just don't think that holds in a closed THEMED game on Day1.
At worst he should be put on alert for a Day2 or 3 lynch.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 07 2019 13:25 GMT
#738
RE: Damdred

1) Damdred didn't post anything that looked like reading the game, just mechanics and role stuff.


Sure, but he hasn't been around since early day 1. That should be expected early day 1

2) Damdred's role stuff positions him to act as 3p. The only people who GAIN by being perceived as 3p are mafia.


Sure, you're right, but just because it positions him to act as 3p in no way means that he intentionally is aiming for that. You're reading a possible explanation as the most likely explanation. He could have information in his role pm suggesting third parties, or he could just be extrapolating based on what people are saying and the theme of the game.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 07 2019 13:26 GMT
#739
On April 07 2019 22:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
On April 07 2019 22:10 Tubesock wrote:
Mocsta, did Palmar even post before you posted you wanted to kill him?

Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything.
How do you foresee me responding to this?

Its all backhand slaps, yeah....

Your first point is so off the mark I'm in shock, and your second point should tend towards a scum read on me.

Tell the truth please.. did you even read what I wrote?

tbf I wouldn't really blame anyone for mostly skimming your stuff.
Well, i would like to express my grattitude that at least you read my content.

Thank you

NOW YOU MUST DIE!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 07 2019 13:30 GMT
#740
I just read MZ. I agree it looks contradictory. I don't think it's a bad lynch but I'll keep my vote on Mig for the time being.
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