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Fecalfeast
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
rayne and LS looked for their faction and TW said he has a mafia name in his pm. While I see some differences, I don’t see the leap to confirmed anything. And do you mean confirmed “ride or die confirmed” or 97% not voting day 1 confirmed? I’d also like a response to HF’s point about both of your TMI examples being contradictory. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 06 2019 14:19 Mig wrote: So the only thing you find weird is damdred? What do you think about rayn/hf? What do you think about rayn/Hf? I feel like we play similiarly. At least from a game from 3-4 years ago and your filter looks like mine generally does at first lol. Plus, Migs are great airplanes. Let’s chat. | ||
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Palmar
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Also I haven't read rayn's filter, but I found it strange that he basically assumed rayn is town. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
So, is he still an open wolf? Why exactly are you townreading Tumblewood? On April 06 2019 22:00 Eywa- wrote: Jockmcplop confirmed scum. Total lack of conviction. Is this for real? Both the confirmed part and presumably because it’s lack of conviction on Jock’s part? On April 06 2019 23:11 Eywa- wrote: I'm wondering here if you're trying to defend your actions or theirs... Noted for future. Maybe I’m just having trouble reading people due irl reasons, but I’m not finding where Kelsier was doing the things he would be defending. Can you point them out? I really disliked Kels first real post, but have warmed up to him for later ones, specifically this one (I disagree about FF though). What exactly do you disagree with? I feel his confusion about Damdred. I think I’ve settled for just thinking he’s 3p, but then I think well maybe he’s town and rayn can be 3p, but I think rayns being far more towny. I really don’t see either being mafia though, but it’s not a stretch at all for them to be antitown. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Shall we do palmar day1 two games in a row? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition. Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town. I don't believe him. What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party. I don't believe him, I think he's scum. His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On April 07 2019 19:37 Mocsta wrote: Hf Shall we do palmar day1 two games in a row? Way ahead of you, already working under the assumption the combined weight of idiocy is greater than my strength. The only regret I have is hosts should be murdered for starting games on weekends. I really don't have time for this. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 07 2019 19:43 Palmar wrote: To clarify about Damdred. If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition. Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town. I don't believe him. What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party. I don't believe him, I think he's scum. His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real. I can sheep this. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On April 07 2019 19:43 Palmar wrote: To clarify about Damdred. If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition. Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town. I don't believe him. What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party. I don't believe him, I think he's scum. His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real. I mean, way to beat a dead horse, you know? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On April 07 2019 05:40 Holyflare wrote: Patently false. My win condition and alignment is town. Everyone else talking about arabs and other win conditions are talking about factions that are different from my very specific win condition of winning with town and being nothing more than town. It's also quite clear from my role that there are people hunting other people too so we shouldn't be name claiming or doing anything. If Damdred has to kill rayn then that's 2 factions that are already different to my very much normal role PM. Damdred doesn't even hesitate to think that maybe the enemy faction is mafia. On the contrary, he says rayn is town and assumes the host just makes a role that gimps town for absolutely no reason. Being so carefree about it knowing that is more scummy than towny because they don't fear any repercussions at all. So what if his PM says he has to kill all Rayns or whatever faction? Putting a name to a general consensus that everyone has already talked about does not mean I mentioned it first and it's irrelevant if I even did. I want damdred to explain his faction and if he knows any members of it (he can keep them anonymous) otherwise this faction nonsense is bs. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Palmar #685/#689 = I feel for you dude. Last game was a tough hand to be dealt, and then to roll scum this game - I really feel for you. We have lazy Day1 Palmar here guys, and for those that have been around the TL Traps - this is synonymous with scum!Palmar. Firstly, Damdred doesnt town!read rayn outright. He faction reads Roman!Rayn. Secondly, I agree with Palmar that alt-win con should not cloud the thread, yet, he seemingly is oblivious/ignorant that several others, not just Damdred, have raised alt win-con. "I don't believe him" , whilst 'true from Palmar PoV' is the easy/lazy position for him to push... you tell me. Is easy/lazy more likely to town!palmar, or scum!palmar. Lastly, we just came from a game where town positioned themselves as 3P. This whole premise is over embellished. ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Do you make anything of how VE is talking to you? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
the stuff on m_z seems solid, but I still like some votes/pressure on pandain. his filter is basically "hey im here; reading" and 4h later he basically +1s a dude and adds a low effort tr on tw. really looks like low effort/trying to stay under the radar scum to me. don't think both of em are scum though. at least it would be super bleh from pandain to just +1 his scum mate. xD | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Is he buddying? Maybe. Not worth thinking about until I know more about MZ. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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