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On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol
Jock? This is pretty good shit mang.
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On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town.
Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom
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On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia.
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On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods.
Haha ok.
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On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods.
I agree that damdred used to be a very good d1 player. However that was a long time ago.
Admittedly there have been fewer games in recent years and I've played in few of those but my impression of damdred now is that he disappears for full phases and misses votes etc. So I let him do his own thing and then he wins or loses.
If your meta read is based on him being an active player d1 who makes good case then I'd just have to disagree. Not sure if you are lying or just using an outdated read
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On April 08 2019 20:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 20:31 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:21 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 20:15 Palmar wrote:On April 08 2019 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:On April 08 2019 19:53 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:52 disformation wrote:On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.
He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.
Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him. This is just flat out crap lol eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of games as town. ebwop: eh right. i am pretty damn sure that ive seen more than one game where damdred was super afk for a bunch of days as town. Agree. I love damdred but he's never a d1 phenom He's one of the best Day 1 players on the site when he tries. On February 02 2015 03:27 Palmar wrote:On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.
Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.
His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.
He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.
First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.
After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.
Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote
Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. This is one of the best day 1 cases in the history of TL mafia. It's not often I get this convinced by a case. I sometimes read it when I feel anxious about TL Mafia stupidity and it calms me. I know somewhere out there... no matter how far, there is intelligence. We lynched Eden. He was mafia. 2015 I mean, you just lynched town so not sure why you're questioning my methods. I agree that damdred used to be a very good d1 player. However that was a long time ago. Admittedly there have been fewer games in recent years and I've played in few of those but my impression of damdred now is that he disappears for full phases and misses votes etc. So I let him do his own thing and then he wins or loses. If your meta read is based on him being an active player d1 who makes good case then I'd just have to disagree. Not sure if you are lying or just using an outdated read No, that's not my read, I was just telling you you were wrong. Can you just slow down for a sec and actually read?
Oh don't get so prickly
I was typing as you posted
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@Palmar
I don't think you are lying with regards to your case on damdred I just have to disagree with it.
Worrying/trying to figure out alignments and the "third party positioning" stuff can all be explained by it being a themed game where nonone has any idsa whats happening.
Being afk is explained by it being damdred. I agree we can probably drop it.
With sentinel. Lots of people look bad including me but I was super confused and didn't keep up over the weekend so . I'm going to wait till night resolves. hopefully a bunch of people die and reveal more about the game.
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On April 08 2019 20:43 Palmar wrote:Sentinel had a bit going into the game and kept with it for way too long, to the point he did nothing useful on day 1 because he was doing his bit. Wonder where we've seen sentinel hide behind a gimmick as mafia before?  Also, his last minute voteswitch has a few implications. Did he know he was too late? Clocks aren't a hard thing to work. I always find it very unrealistic people miss deadlines accidentally. Or maybe I'm just wrong on Damdred. Who knows
Agree on the voteswitch thing. Looks like bullshit
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On April 08 2019 22:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Quickly so I can move on. Doing Palmar and will probably take a sec because he's got a case and I look at his cases out of respeck. RESPECK! KSC: His filter reads pretty poorly. He had very little input D1, and the bulk of his activity is arguing with Palmar wrt his Damdred case. Softly shat on the MZ wagon and threw his vote away on Palmar. High mafia probability. Mocsta: I’m not up on my Mocsta meta so I’m just going to give my feels about Mocsta and someone more readily familiar can check my work. He’s doing this thing that I seem to recall being NAI, where he acts super sure of himself and his reads regardless of actual level of certainty. It feels townie to me, as it feels like a way to push people off-balance and get their emotions up, something I don’t readily associate with Mocsta’s mafia play. This post gives me pause, however, in which he agrees with on the current vote leader but votes in favor of another wagon. In his favor is the fact that he’s pretty open about the fact that he considers both to be crapshoots, and not liking FF, the other viable wagon. Overall I think he’s town, but like I said, someone who is more familiar with Mocsta’s meta should look and see if there’s anything I missed or was mistaken about.
I never voted Palmar and voted MZ so...u ok?
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On April 09 2019 00:32 Vivax wrote:
I don't really know why Kelsier has resurrected a discussion about Damdreds D1 plays. Doesn't feel to me like it led him to anything. Really just looks like a discussion of facts from outside the game. Damdred has been an afk non-entity for a while now. He just tends to forget about the game past D1.
The focus on interest should rather lie on Palmars weird ass theory that Damdred was mafia pretending to be 3p. I don't really see a world where that is of benefit to mafia.
I was in the thread when that was the topic of discussion and I thought HF's point was pretty interesting. You've had a boner for me all game and you seem pretty tunneled so maybe chill the fuck out a little bit.
If you need an explanation for a lacklustre d1 I had a very busy weekend, the first time I posted any reads I got called a scum tryhard which sort of lowered my motivation to contribute.
@ls I don't see the point going deep into reads at this point as I will reevaluate when the night actions occur. Kind of lost and a bit meh with the whole game tbh.
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On April 09 2019 01:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 04:15 Mig wrote:
The arguing/speculation about the setup and roles seems like a waste of time 3 hours before lynch. Lets try to lynch who is scummiest. My wincon says win with town I do not care about lynching anything other than non town. We will have more information tomorrow after people flip anyway.
Thoughts on a palmar lynch? His stuff feels forced to me. If he just said I want to lynch damdred because of his only posts being speculation on setup then fine but then he felt the need to justify it with 8 paragraphs coming up a theory about how hes a mafia trying to pretend to be a 3rd party? Its the start of the game and Damdred has barely posted. Seems like a real stretch, when I played with palmar back in the day he was always one of the better players which makes me question whether he really believes what hes saying here or if this is just a safe/easy mislynch for him to push
meapak have you figured out who you are voting for yet? I'm having a hard time seeing how starting from this post which in my opinion is probably the only good reason to lynch Palmar, Migs further posts seek to achieve his proclaimed objective of murdering Palmar. Maybe 30 % of them. But then there's posts like these (and a bunch of other non-Palmar-related questions): Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 04:51 Mig wrote:
tumblewood why are you voting me over mocsta when your most recent post about finding someone scummy was him? Which display a scummy focus. It is obvious that TW would vote the scumread most likely to be lynched out of a set of scumreads that involved mig himself. And it's not a post that has any way of convincing TW to vote for Palmar, just to not vote Mig.
Was Palmar a scumread of TW ? otherwise it's not really a scumtell?
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On April 09 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax is mafia
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so ff killed LS.
have to assume jock was the scum kill as eywa was pretty good lynch bait.
no clue how eywa died though. roman assasin?
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On April 09 2019 07:13 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2019 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
so ff killed LS.
have to assume jock was the scum kill as eywa was pretty good lynch bait.
no clue how eywa died though. roman assasin?
are you even reading? Show nested quote +On April 09 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
ok so since actions can no longer be changed
I'm the roman assassin and i assassinated LS. I apparently don't get removed if I win so I'm still here to play for town's wincon
alright mate chill out
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I guess mafia or the inquisition w/e had 2 kp then
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I don't really get any of this shit so im going to bed
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Looks like you can't vote Grack
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On April 09 2019 22:41 Mocsta wrote:Thnx that didnt register Such a weird way from host to confirm lol R u caught up?
nope, still don't really get all this factional bullshit and work is busy etc. so i'll just vote whatever wagon seems good at EoD . This game is beyond my comprehension/commitment.
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