End of the World Party Mafia

On March 05 2019 09:39 Holyflare wrote:
not mafia tho

On March 05 2019 09:40 iamperfection wrote:

20 people need to die

On March 05 2019 09:40 Holyflare wrote:


why even posture it when I'm likely to be shot for being selected as mayor anyway?

On March 05 2019 09:42 Acrofales wrote:

Good luck. You gotta somehow convince people you're town after the first guy did this:


Scumclaim.

On March 05 2019 09:43 Mocsta wrote:

Hi Marv, been a while!

Can you walk me through this?

I still think HF is town, so i dont understand why hes a sensible vig shot?

On March 05 2019 09:43 Acrofales wrote:

He thought conversion was scum too though. I'm really inclined to believe him.

On March 05 2019 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
We have so much more info now we know both mayor wagons were town though at least

On March 05 2019 09:46 Mocsta wrote:
marv,

Palmar also wanted wiggles dead.

Im finding this play frmo you weird. I get you probably want to wrestle for thread control, but, you self admittedly havnt even verified if palmars claims on sentinel are true.

I wasnt a fan of conversion, and unlike palmar, dont find replacing out to be a townish!tell.
Its weird to me, you *appear* to be using town!palmar read as a motive to wrestle against HF.

On March 05 2019 09:47 Holyflare wrote:
I would never in a million years actually lynch palmar as mafia :D

On March 05 2019 09:46 Mocsta wrote:
marv,

Palmar also wanted wiggles dead.

Im finding this play frmo you weird. I get you probably want to wrestle for thread control, but, you self admittedly havnt even verified if palmars claims on sentinel are true.

I wasnt a fan of conversion, and unlike palmar, dont find replacing out to be a townish!tell.
Its weird to me, you *appear* to be using town!palmar read as a motive to wrestle against HF.

On March 05 2019 09:49 Mocsta wrote:
This is the final game of TL mafia. Egos are on display. I can totally see HF trying to make sick plays..

Also, in last 10-15 pages, Im mainly interested in the people that came in to stoke the fire and fuck off.
I think thats best candidates for mafia.

Ppl like BC come to mind. Wiggles as well (which is another palmar read).. possibly Ace - that I cant remember.

Im surprised you as a fresh face is putting that to the side, to wrestle with HF.

FOR THE RECORD, I THINK HF is town because of how hes choosing to read me. He takes any disagreement on his point of view very "personally", and its just something I have come to expect from town!HF. I DONT KNOW WHY HE FORGETS THIS THOUGH - every fucking game.

On March 05 2019 09:51 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of bh marv?

On March 05 2019 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
Shoot me! Shoot me tonight! People thinking I'm scum will make bad analysis on the BH vs Trf wagons unless a vigi shoots me tonight! Only a green flip can exonerate me. Vigi, shoot me!

On March 05 2019 09:52 Damdred wrote:
I think bh could be town here maybe? But might want to kill him anyway.

I am sort of in migraine place from work so I'm going to try to figure out what exactly happened.

But yeah people moving to trfel woild be worth looking into, idk about viva though when I looked at his filter earlier it was actually quite ok, not what I would expect to see from his scum game generally.

And while I dont like the play of Hf to kill palmar...could just be more null he has the balls to do it as scum but he would of pocketed palm. Probably not worth thinking about in that regard, I'm just going to read it as null.

On March 05 2019 09:54 Damdred wrote:
Hey marv, outside of game I've missed you bud and glad to see you in game again.

On March 05 2019 09:55 iamperfection wrote:

no

its like he took a dare in the scum qt saying he could act as a jester and still not get lynched.

On March 05 2019 09:57 Damdred wrote:


Let's be honest, Palms biggest weakness is when someone turns from scum reading to town reading he gets a huge blindspot on that person, we sort of did it in that massive game we played slam put on.

Hf was pretty vocal about killing him, I think if he would of switched it to killing someone else and buddied palm he would of fell for it pretty hard.

But it is hf...his balls...pretty big

On March 05 2019 10:00 Damdred wrote:


Yeah I think I agree with that, HF is probably the only person in the game who I would think would make the play especially if palm had some of his buddies dead to rights...and for swag.

I think I'll ignore the thought for now, but overall gf play hasn't been super scum leaning to me. Even his rayn fight did not feel like he was scum trying to tilt or to muddy, it's been pretty clean.

I will digress here as I dont want to start a big thing about why hf is town necessarily when I should be reevaluating.

On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:


B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.

On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:


? I thought his early posts were colossally bad. I didn't like how he kept coming up with reasons to read people one way or another that on closer inspection turned out to be massively false and then he'd just brush it away.

This happened with:

Rayn - where he came up with some factually incorrect meta and falsehoods in this game that got disproved and then called out by Rayn himself and Palmar just hand waved it away

LS read - where he tried to further his incorrect point that he must be right on LS because rsoul and damdred agreed with him (and also therefore damdred must be town because they agreed on LS(????????????????)). It turned out neither of them really agreed anymore but he didn't update that read on damdred

At the time I submitted the vote on palmar he had only 2 real attempts at scum reads and they turned out to be hedges instead on both acro and iamp so he really had no scum reads. He only started trying to scum read people after I called him out on it.

Outside of Palmar himself there was an overwhelming wagon building on Palmar's mayorship out of nowhere. He had only stated that he was going to lynch sentinel and then after Sentinel posted not bad walls of text he never updated that read. His wagon kept growing but with nobody really casting doubt on Sentinel further (other than like 1-2 people) so Palmar seemed to be in direct contention with my mayor votes for absolutely no reason whatsoever (I even had sentinel as my lynch policy for a long while).

I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar:

A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him

B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.

On March 05 2019 10:08 Holyflare wrote:
It's been too long and you haven't witnessed the new only plays on phone and has to work all the time Holyflare. I'm not very good anymore but my ego hasn't deflated to match.

On March 05 2019 10:09 Damdred wrote:
Marv why are you coming in and being so town and get killed I would like to play with you more than 3p minites!

On March 05 2019 10:10 Holyflare wrote:


Seems somewhat arbitrary.

On March 05 2019 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
Bringing to forefront.
Interesting point on FF.
Sentinel is already receiving limelight.

On March 05 2019 10:17 Acrofales wrote:

Holy shit, if you're town you are actually terrible at this game. Like truly mindblowingly awful. I pray for the life of me you're scum, because if you're town I haven't seen someone this dumb since kushm4sta.

On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction.

On March 05 2019 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Me and iamp made cases / scumread-posts on him earlier in the game in case you wanna check them out.

On March 05 2019 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't know i genuinely have zero meta on Meapak that i remember.

On March 05 2019 17:15 sicklucker wrote:
marv why are you conversing with the enemy

On March 05 2019 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

And that's the point when everyone and their mom started scumreading me because Holyflare said not so. Funny isn't it?

On March 05 2019 17:17 sicklucker wrote:
well im confident he is the mathematical lynch. im more confident hes a good lynch then any amount of my sad reading ability can comprehend. So im not really motivated to find mafia since a very likely mafia is in line. IF he flips town then I can try hard to save the game for town by finding mafia and not getting lynched. If he flips mafia I can kill you. Untill hes dead no motivation

On March 05 2019 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your take on Ace? I think he is full of shit.

On March 05 2019 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Basically he asked Holyflare this:

Then nothing on HF's campaign on lynching Palmar.
Do you think he EVER as town doesn't verify by just reading HF's filter what HF wants to do (as HF didn't answer him afaik)?

Because i don't.

On March 05 2019 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am pretty sure at the time HF was taking the train fro mthe airport and ultimaltely missed the question entirely.
Do you think it's possible Ace just ran with that (he was in the thread for ages after that post)?
Why doesn't he check if HF doesn't answer in reasonable time in case he is town?

On March 05 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:


Damn there goes my last hope that you somehow were town.

Don't worry though, I'll lynch HF with you cause I don't care about this game any more since he killed Palmar.

On March 05 2019 21:17 Jockmcplop wrote:


Are you saying that for people who care about the game lynching HF would be wrong?

On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:
??? Why be like this ???

On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:

Why?

Its taking worsw case explanation

A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge.

Hf does this every game we play when im town
I simply am not wishy washy when scum.

Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it?

On March 05 2019 21:35 Acrofales wrote:

Pay no attention to HF. He's just doing busywork until a vig gets him. I'm 99% certain he flips red.

@HF: keep up the good work. Keep the content coming before you die!

On March 06 2019 00:07 iamperfection wrote:

Why are you defending yourself so much?

On March 06 2019 00:34 iamperfection wrote:

Because scum are more interested defending themself........

On March 06 2019 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv being back here gives me good feels
Also this post


Marv making the conversion slot so much more difficult. Would not lynch above a whole host of others



Want to hear this though---do you think she is mafia? Or just shutting down bad read?


I am having trouble with this re-read of rsoul

On March 06 2019 03:38 iamperfection wrote:

Even though your probably scum tell these baboons I'm town.

On March 06 2019 04:00 Rels wrote:
Vivax is obvious town to me. Doing his own investigation and having non popular reads scream town Vivax

On March 06 2019 04:12 iamperfection wrote:

I just see things so scummy sometimes that I stare at my phone in disbelief.

You suggesting to lynch someone that is town to help clear the air is either scum motivated at best and at worst idiotic.

On March 06 2019 04:20 Blazinghand wrote:

if I had two bullets here, I'd shoot myself and HF

On March 06 2019 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
oh SL town xD

On March 06 2019 04:34 rsoultin wrote:


wanting to claim credit for things that just weren't him (he was involved but not to the degree he imagines) but totally matches his pride

and his irritation with HF is town

On March 06 2019 04:40 rsoultin wrote:


frustration may be the better word -shrugs- i'm not a lawyer. frustrated with the idea that you'll probably slip through anyway cause he can never get you lynched = town sl i'd betcha betcha betcha

and it's not meant to be convincing @marv

On March 06 2019 04:42 Holyflare wrote:


Then you're just flat out being useless then aren't you? What's the point of having a read and keeping it to yourself. I won't let myself get lynched so someone is going to have to shoot me, which would also be a waste because I can actually provide a lot of information by talking since everyone things I'm mafia anyway - even if on my buddies.

If you're talking about my vote on Exo I've already explained why I voted Exo and then already explained why I unvoted Exo. Now I want to also vote Exo again.

On March 06 2019 04:47 rsoultin wrote:


It's not a matter of what's logical. It's a matter of feeling. I know that HF is scum and I can't get people to lynch him feels. No reason for him to have that as scum -shrugs-

On March 06 2019 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Is this sarcasm? Did i understand something wrong?

On March 06 2019 05:16 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh I see you're answering a question I directed at nobody, and to quite you yourself, reading comprehension.

I don't say it had anything to do with you saying 'not like', I say it's because you don't elaborate.

Keep reading though. It gets juicy. I think you'll like it.

On March 06 2019 05:35 WaveofShadow wrote:

You having a stroke?

On March 06 2019 05:38 rsoultin wrote:


Lol I still don't know what game you're referring to ><

Look, I'm not going to sit here and pretend to you or anyone that my read wasn't much more than feels cause it wasn't. Palmar wasn't engaged in the thread the way I associate with a town Palmar and the one I'm familiar with is the one who doesn't care and kinda does tone things with early posts and stuff. So you add that in with what I've already said and some of his reads particularly the one on me like somehow my LS read has any bearing on my alignment and yes...then throw in other people also thinking he's scum (HF-who I did and still do have as one of my top townreads) and that's where I land.

On March 06 2019 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think I've ever been afraid of Palmar as mafia but you're right it is a free kill essentially. Honestly just think I'd do the much safer play of lynching someone everyone wanted lynching to keep the heat off my back though? I'd probably get medic protected, would win a lot of people over to my side and mean a whole lot less arguing myself out of a hole. Of course this is wifom and you can argue otherwise but just putting my thoughts out there.

On March 06 2019 05:47 rsoultin wrote:


I will never claim that I can't be wrong on HF's alignment. But I can't remember the last time we've been opposite alignments and we haven't gotten into a massive drawn-out shitfight. Years. He has had multiple opportunities to just bury people and shit up the thread arguing till he's blue in the face and he de-escalates even when others continue to throw shit. The rayn episode is the one that comes most readily to mind.

You tell me but Tina don't you think he'd lynch Palmar as scum? Yes. Of course I know he's that brazen. Which to me brings lynching Palmar and Palmar flipping green to a flat null. I don't really understand why people think that Palmar being town makes HF scum. My read is based on everything else not someone thinking the same person I thought was scum was scum and being wrong.

Like is there some reason that you think HF wouldn't do that as town that makes the flip indicative of alignment?

On March 06 2019 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Imagine voting Donald Trump because he said he'd build a wall and then getting angry when he tries to build a wall.

On March 06 2019 07:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm very confident one of sicklucker, wiggles, or conversion/Marv is scum. On my way home now, I'll be active this evening.

I'm not sold on an HF lynch.

I still want Grack and Pandain dead.

One of BC and Ace is scum.