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On March 04 2019 16:41 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... Thoughts on Palmar then? I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF. Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die? If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be? Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead.
So HF wants you dead, but you're sure HF is town? If you are Town, isn't him wanting you dead a sign he might not be town? Explain why you think he's town if you're also town.
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On March 04 2019 16:42 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me. That's...what? What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic. Dictionary.com: denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth" I think you're focusing on this far more than I was -- using organic to describe somebody's posting, to me, is not very organic.I don't think it serves much to dwell on this though -- do you agree with what rsoul said? You feel like iamp's posts are organic and town-motivated? OR what is your opinion of iamp?
It's less about the organic-ness...organicity? of the posts and more the seeming confidence behind his posting. He reacts to everything and posts with an air of superiority and most importantly pushes more or less relentlessly which, even if I didn't know iamp at all, are towny traits.
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On March 04 2019 16:39 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum. I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum. Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door. -cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target? So then following this, if Palmar is scum: What does his pushing on Sent say? Is it a random policy lynch or is there more to it? What does his town read on acro mean?
Don't know and don't care? Palmar is capable of pushing or reading people any which way if he's scum, so why is this a thing for you?
Independently I think sent seems okay, certainly enough to warrant not lynching him d1. And acro is someone I need to look at again cause I've seen things I both like and don't like. I don't feel strongly enough on him to not lynch him though so there's that.
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Alright I think I'm officially involved now.
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can we just lynch trefel. all he did was focus on me and he even pussied out on that even after I layed off him to not derail the thread which is impressive
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On March 04 2019 16:44 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:42 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me. That's...what? What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic. Dictionary.com: denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth" I think you're focusing on this far more than I was -- using organic to describe somebody's posting, to me, is not very organic.I don't think it serves much to dwell on this though -- do you agree with what rsoul said? You feel like iamp's posts are organic and town-motivated? OR what is your opinion of iamp? It's less about the organic-ness...organicity? of the posts and more the seeming confidence behind his posting. He reacts to everything and posts with an air of superiority and most importantly pushes more or less relentlessly which, even if I didn't know iamp at all, are towny traits.
I don't know you very well, but relentlessly pushing one person I've always found to be more of a scum trait. I have to ask myself if I believe that you believe what you are saying -- I'm not sure I do.
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On March 04 2019 16:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:41 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. -shrugs- I tend to think people who are fluidly changing opinions and reacting to changes in the thread are more likely town. Reading his filter is not likely to give you a good idea of what I'm talking about. Mafia has to think an extra step before posting to decide what things look like or if they want to pursue a scum/town read or whatever so they come off a bit more stiff/unnatural. Also it's probably projecting cause fluidity is one of the things I still can't get right in my own scum game lol >< Careful because this isn't necessarily true. HF is a great example. Not as hard to do as scum as you'd think.
I mean you're not wrong. It's still a general thing I use in a vacuum.
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On March 04 2019 16:45 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:39 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum. I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum. Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door. -cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target? So then following this, if Palmar is scum: What does his pushing on Sent say? Is it a random policy lynch or is there more to it? What does his town read on acro mean? Don't know and don't care? Palmar is capable of pushing or reading people any which way if he's scum, so why is this a thing for you? Independently I think sent seems okay, certainly enough to warrant not lynching him d1. And acro is someone I need to look at again cause I've seen things I both like and don't like. I don't feel strongly enough on him to not lynch him though so there's that.
Seems important to care to me -- the reason I think he's scummy is precisely because he's hyper focused on this policy lynch and seemingly just always comes back to it. Town Reads everyone else.
I think I'd favor a Palmar lynch day 1 over Acro -- and I think giving Palmar mayor based on his day 1 posting is a mistake.
Why the Vote for Holy Flare Mayor? HF wants to kill Acro, you don't have a read on Acro according to you just now. So why HF for mayor if you don't agree with who he wants to kill?
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On March 04 2019 16:46 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:42 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:
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HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory.
It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town.
And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me. That's...what? What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic. Dictionary.com: denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth" I think you're focusing on this far more than I was -- using organic to describe somebody's posting, to me, is not very organic.I don't think it serves much to dwell on this though -- do you agree with what rsoul said? You feel like iamp's posts are organic and town-motivated? OR what is your opinion of iamp? It's less about the organic-ness...organicity? of the posts and more the seeming confidence behind his posting. He reacts to everything and posts with an air of superiority and most importantly pushes more or less relentlessly which, even if I didn't know iamp at all, are towny traits. I don't know you very well, but relentlessly pushing one person I've always found to be more of a scum trait. I have to ask myself if I believe that you believe what you are saying -- I'm not sure I do.
Assuming he's been doing nothing else, you'd be right. But he's very clearly but spouting all sorts of reads and reacting to thread while at the same time pushing acro whom he believes to be scum. Not sure what you expect him to be doing otherwise.
I don't need to defend him here any further.
What I REALLY should be doing is reading Acro probs.
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On March 04 2019 16:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:46 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:42 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:
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I mostly agree with you.
Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me. That's...what? What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic. Dictionary.com: denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth" I think you're focusing on this far more than I was -- using organic to describe somebody's posting, to me, is not very organic.I don't think it serves much to dwell on this though -- do you agree with what rsoul said? You feel like iamp's posts are organic and town-motivated? OR what is your opinion of iamp? It's less about the organic-ness...organicity? of the posts and more the seeming confidence behind his posting. He reacts to everything and posts with an air of superiority and most importantly pushes more or less relentlessly which, even if I didn't know iamp at all, are towny traits. I don't know you very well, but relentlessly pushing one person I've always found to be more of a scum trait. I have to ask myself if I believe that you believe what you are saying -- I'm not sure I do. Assuming he's been doing nothing else, you'd be right. But he's very clearly but spouting all sorts of reads and reacting to thread while at the same time pushing acro whom he believes to be scum. Not sure what you expect him to be doing otherwise. I don't need to defend him here any further. What I REALLY should be doing is reading Acro probs.
I didn't see a lot of reads coming out from him when I read his filter -- at least not what I would consider to be reads backed with any kind of explanation.
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On March 04 2019 16:50 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:45 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:39 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum. I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum. Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door. -cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target? So then following this, if Palmar is scum: What does his pushing on Sent say? Is it a random policy lynch or is there more to it? What does his town read on acro mean? Don't know and don't care? Palmar is capable of pushing or reading people any which way if he's scum, so why is this a thing for you? Independently I think sent seems okay, certainly enough to warrant not lynching him d1. And acro is someone I need to look at again cause I've seen things I both like and don't like. I don't feel strongly enough on him to not lynch him though so there's that. Seems important to care to me -- the reason I think he's scummy is precisely because he's hyper focused on this policy lynch and seemingly just always comes back to it. Town Reads everyone else. I think I'd favor a Palmar lynch day 1 over Acro -- and I think giving Palmar mayor based on his day 1 posting is a mistake. Why the Vote for Holy Flare Mayor? HF wants to kill Acro, you don't have a read on Acro according to you just now. So why HF for mayor if you don't agree with who he wants to kill?
HF is a townread who wants to kill a null read (on my lynch list for townreads scumreading him) who another town read (Iam) wants to kill. Palmar's a scumread who wants to kill someone I don't want to kill.
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And, in case people are retarded, I would much rather vote a townread in for mayor than a scumread lol >< Duh. Palmar's leading the mayor votes.
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I do not understand why Palmar is leading the mayor votes based on what I've read so far.
I've got sleep but I'll be back later -- going to dive the people mayor voting Palmar.
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On March 04 2019 15:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
I will look at Trfel now. Something someone wrote recently (you?) struck a chord in that I remember him having a ridiculous (scum?)game or at the very least him having been very skilled in some form or another so maybe seeing him perform less adequately makes him more likely to be scum? Not really sure. Meta probably isn't a great idea in this game (and let's be real honest, isn't usually a great idea at all) but we all do it, so it's worth looking into.
Mayor atm is Palmar but he's fucked off for a while and Sentinel should no longer be mayor lynch so that could very easily change depending on what he does.
Wouldn't vote Oats atm, probably not Sentinel, haven't looked with any detial into Acro but probably should given the wagon on him and the high profile names involved.
I will never vote HF into a position of power because I will basically never trust him in any given game.
It’s not so much that Trfel can do better, while he certainly can. It’s his piggybacking. Him able to do better (or his meta) makes me think he can show town easily. Vs say someone who is more difficult to read (Chezinu, slam, fecalfeast etc).
I like Acro’s answer to my question and his subsequent posts. I think he’s town. 3/4 of the game are lurkers or low posters so that’s a poor heuristic to vote skmene. especially when a few of these accusers are guilty of it themselves.
I forgot what I was going to ask about rayn. Oops.
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And I'm gonna stop this here to poke into Acro/MZ/Conv cause I don't really have the time for a debate with an ExO.
Dude, if you're town, you always just end up scumreading me cause that's what you do. I mean you're the idiot who claimed I was godfather cause you got a green check on me when I claimed blue. I don't mind discussing when I have more time if that'll help me get a read on you/you solidify your reads but lol >< I'm not interested in trying to prove my innocence to someone who already knows or is just too daft to ever realize it anyway
I'd say no offence intended but...just don't trust you to ever get it right 
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On March 04 2019 16:43 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:41 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... Thoughts on Palmar then? I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF. Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die? If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be? Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead. So HF wants you dead, but you're sure HF is town? If you are Town, isn't him wanting you dead a sign he might not be town? Explain why you think he's town if you're also town.
I'm not sure he's town, but town being wrong doesn't make me suddenly think they're scum. It makes me think they're wrong. Other than that his posting has mostly been of someone trying to get information flowing and he seems interested in pulling threads and seeing where they lead. I like that.
But I'd vote HF over some others, who I have a stronger townreads on than HF, as I don't trust their judgement. I'd rather not put them in a place where they kill a townie and then we spend all of D2 arguing over whether it was a mistake or malice. I'd much rather do that with someone like HF, or especially Palmar, as I trust their ability to kill scum D1 a lot more than my stronger town reads.
And that's why I'm still voting Palmar for mayor because even if I'm not confident he's town: if he is, I trust his judgement. I trust it a lot more than HF's, whose judgement is suspect given he's currently voting to lynch a townie. That said, even with HF being temporarily (I hope) wrong, I still think his judgement is better than that of my strongest town reads.
Names of other ppl purposefully omitted, as there doesn't seem to be any reason to start giving scum strong town reads right now. They can figure that out on their own.
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K I actually have to go back and read Iamp's reason for wanting to lynch Acro 'cause I'm not seeing it at first glance.
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On March 04 2019 16:09 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:05 ExO_ wrote:
Jesus fuck I don't think rsoul could fake this 7 page filter. I don't like how much rsoul has asked for Damdreds approval, but overall I don't believe rsoul is scum.
So far:
Town: Rsoul
Scum: Damdred
Where the fuck is: Koshi also a lame post. just an incredibly lame reason to TR rsoul, especially considering that it's also hedged. that's a demerit. 3 of those and u are mafia. aight i'm outta here
You cased me, why aren’t you pushing me? You would have at least two more votes? Did you forget about me already?
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On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?
Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:
Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.
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On March 04 2019 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?
I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning. I wanna lynch Acro yeah lol
Of course you do. I'm green and you're red. You still haven't followed a train of thought in this thread. Just throwing names out and hopping around til a train starts rolling.
Die. Shitty scummer.
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