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On March 04 2019 14:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oo actually now that I think about it I wonder if I look into all the low effort talk of disposal of my person, which of those talked about lynching vs vig. Might be an interesting exercise but maybe just more self stroking of my own ego.
Ugh somebody talk to me maybe now that I seem to be in the mood
Hi!
I’m catching up this morning. I’ll find Pandains post but he’s only had like two? So I doubt I’ll have anything interesting to say about that. Have you looked at Trfel? Specifically how he latched on to others cases pretty easily?
Is Pandain your lynch? Who’s your mayor again?
Currently I’m lynching trfel, am undecided on Acrofales, and I think Oats and Sentinel are townish. At least town enough not to vote today. Do you ave opinions on any of them?
I’m mayor voting HF and probably only HF. Do your reservations about HF concern this game or his general scum power?
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Wave, want to talk about rayn?
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On March 04 2019 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious.
Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy.
You know? I think I also do this.
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Maybe wave not still here so I’mma sleep
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I will look at Trfel now. Something someone wrote recently (you?) struck a chord in that I remember him having a ridiculous (scum?)game or at the very least him having been very skilled in some form or another so maybe seeing him perform less adequately makes him more likely to be scum? Not really sure. Meta probably isn't a great idea in this game (and let's be real honest, isn't usually a great idea at all) but we all do it, so it's worth looking into.
Mayor atm is Palmar but he's fucked off for a while and Sentinel should no longer be mayor lynch so that could very easily change depending on what he does.
Wouldn't vote Oats atm, probably not Sentinel, haven't looked with any detial into Acro but probably should given the wagon on him and the high profile names involved.
I will never vote HF into a position of power because I will basically never trust him in any given game.
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Talking about rayn feels like unleashing the beast in some way, but sure. I'll do a dive if you're still around. What did you want to talk about in regards to him specifically?
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Well sheeeeeeeit you are here
Sup wave
You’re town. Therefore I am town.
Let’s townchaf
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lol
So long as you keep the hijoles to a minimum I'd say
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On March 04 2019 14:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2019 13:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 04 2019 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2019 13:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 04 2019 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2019 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, Ace. We're being oblique, so I hope I'm not too far off base.
Gonna move that mayor vote. oops you wanna expand on this Wiggles? your play interests me so far. What do you think of tube now after scumreading him earlier More or less reading that there's information to be gained outside of the policy lynch. That wagon should be dead now anyways. Still reading scum on Tubesock. Don't think HF saw this earlier when I asked for comment: On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 04 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post: On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches? I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far. On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by. Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins. On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play. If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far. I think this is a bad post. It's quite obvious why he questions acros posts because there's no distinction between any of those other players. What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game? On March 03 2019 06:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:41 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 04:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:
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That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.
You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor. Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone. Reads scummy to me. When I have a lynch target I’ll let everyone one know. Do you want an opinion from me? Am I and Conversion your only scumreads? Who do you want for mayor and why? Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of contribution from you. What makes you want to support HF for mayor? Is it a scumread on Sentinel or some kind of policy lynch? You don't make that clear. I'm cool lynching scummy people just trying to coast by on the first day without needing to stick their necks out too much. That's people like you so far, and Conversion who's re-hashing the same argument with MZ instead of moving to anything else. Guys like Acrofales and and Sent fall into this bucket for me right now too. I'm not super thrilled with any of the mayoral candidates so far. I like HF the most from the people who've thrown their hat in since some of our reads jive. Disagree with him about Chez, his play seems par for the course from what I remember. I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator. I'd like to hear more takes from others as well. Tubesock doesn't seem to get brought up much, so they're sliding by without much attention. They still haven't produced a hard read either. Do you have an alignment read on ace from that exchanges I lean soft town on Ace so far. What I was sensing made sense to me, assuming I got it, and his other posting doesn't strike me as scum play. Can you speculate the town reason for his proposal of how we should vote mayors in? I suspect it was something of a bait to check reactions. As to what he was looking for exactly, I think he'd need to answer that himself. I get the feeling he was having a laugh too, like some of the other entry posts. It's the lack of follow through or trying to push it that doesn't push it into scum territory for me. There was the one post about it, some reactions, and it didn't eat up a bunch of thread space with back and forth.
i mean, it gained 0 traction and a ton of backlash, why bother pushing it or following up on it. Unless it was a straight up joke post which i doubt, town Ace wouldve felt some ownership towards the case
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On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?
I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning.
I wanna lynch Acro yeah lol
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Hey everyone, AMG is going to be replacing me at the end of the day cycle. I'll still put in some hours today and post some closing thoughts and do votes and everything of course.
Regarding my stance on Ace, first don't read what I say as a "there's no way" he's mafia, read it instead as "I've played with Ace before as town and as mafia and based on what he posted I got a very strong town read." Perhaps I should be more nuanced since everyone here is so analytically critical of text posts.
It seems however Ace is serious, which sort of throws my analysis off.
Anyway, there's more players than Ace. I'll post some in around 12 hours after I finish work.
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On March 04 2019 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote:On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote:On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote:
@sen,
I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone.
So here we go,
The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid.
However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum.
He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y.
There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on.
I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing.
However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying. Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary. I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^ But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol >< Typical situation I afk for a day of game and you read me red. But just because you think I'm red dont ignore me, I think chez is probably sorts town from his earlier posting. I think that a happy playful chez=town and a sort of angry lazy chez is scum. I am getting much happier vibes and playfulness from him and is being serious as well. At least early game. It's a bit of a meh read but I think he doesnt deserve to be in the group. Mz I'll have to read but idk about that.
I don't like the wording of "just because you think I'm red". There's no outright denial of being red here
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On March 04 2019 15:54 Pandain wrote:
Hey everyone, AMG is going to be replacing me at the end of the day cycle. I'll still put in some hours today and post some closing thoughts and do votes and everything of course.
Regarding my stance on Ace, first don't read what I say as a "there's no way" he's mafia, read it instead as "I've played with Ace before as town and as mafia and based on what he posted I got a very strong town read." Perhaps I should be more nuanced since everyone here is so analytically critical of text posts.
It seems however Ace is serious, which sort of throws my analysis off.
Anyway, there's more players than Ace. I'll post some in around 12 hours after I finish work.
maybe you should explain why ace is town here and not mafia and do some comparison
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On March 04 2019 15:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol
So long as you keep the hijoles to a minimum I'd say
Well
I can say сукна instead.
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On March 04 2019 07:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 07:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2019 07:03 Damdred wrote:
HF, RS, FF,Iamp can be the strong start of a town circle, and sents posts have been overall excellent so I would say hes town as well.
So 6 people is a good start so far.
Let's contknue. RS for sure tho? I'm decently sure about RS, a lot of the time when RS has been scum she is a bit pointless and tries to send certain people on tilt. HF and her are coexisting in the thread and not trying to make the other quit, that's town tell one. She is also prodding and looking into things in a way that makes me think she is doing it i a protein way. Like how she just explained how she had 8 scum tells, its concise has no real filler to make it look padded and just is (she likes to pad as scum as well). Also reads seem to be more fluid in how she approaches the game is looking g for things to change reads on. Pretty certain she is town.
Without reading rsoul yet, I think I agree with this read. However I think it's more likely scum damdred town reading rsoul than town damdred town reading rsoul.
Too early to be sure though. I don't like Damdreds Day1. In my very limited opinion he's not scum hunting, but sucking up and trying to be involved in a town circle.
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On March 04 2019 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Standouts from Meapak's spreadsheet:
Meapak/me/Mr. Wiggles are the only ones purely being scum read. Feelsbadman.
Holyflare has a sea of town reads with Rayn as the only person reading him as mafia in the middle.
Ticktocks' reads are very strange. Town read on Sicklucker as honest and engaged, the only town read on Damdred who is very widely scum read.
Tbf just a quick look at what he had of my reads unless I'm the exception he's not keeping up with changes -shrugs- and either way it said nothing about his stance so I got bored
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On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.
i've crunched the numbers, and i think there's gotta be some mafia in this game, somewhere. i mean... it's just statistics
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On March 04 2019 15:59 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 15:54 Pandain wrote:
Hey everyone, AMG is going to be replacing me at the end of the day cycle. I'll still put in some hours today and post some closing thoughts and do votes and everything of course.
Regarding my stance on Ace, first don't read what I say as a "there's no way" he's mafia, read it instead as "I've played with Ace before as town and as mafia and based on what he posted I got a very strong town read." Perhaps I should be more nuanced since everyone here is so analytically critical of text posts.
It seems however Ace is serious, which sort of throws my analysis off.
Anyway, there's more players than Ace. I'll post some in around 12 hours after I finish work. maybe you should explain why ace is town here and not mafia and do some comparison
You can read my original post. Not my job to retype things for you.
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Jesus fuck I don't think rsoul could fake this 7 page filter. I don't like how much rsoul has asked for Damdreds approval, but overall I don't believe rsoul is scum.
So far:
Town: Rsoul
Scum: Damdred
Where the fuck is: Koshi
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