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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2019 17:53 GMT
#8981
GG wp. Definitely wasn't my best game, but I'm satisfied with my play in the last two cycles. I particularly thought that our ability to make it Oats vs. MZ yesterday was nice, although ExO and Onegu helped out on that front. Was definitely hard for town given the roles being shot early, but TW had a great shot on BC.

I was also incredibly surprised that people took Pandain's shot at face value. He played that well.

Also must say that I thoroughly enjoyed Mocsta's video. He was really starting to get the game, albeit a bit too late. Really cool dude!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2019 17:53 GMT
#8982
On March 18 2019 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock played ok, all other mafia were just random shit not wanting to kill themselves. Well done Jock.


lol don't be a sore loser
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 17 2019 17:54 GMT
#8983
LOL scum qt thought I was the traitor but no I just thought it would be funny if we did have 1 which ironically we did XD
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 17 2019 17:56 GMT
#8984
On March 18 2019 02:43 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 23:00 Tubesock wrote:
Acrofales - confirmed
Sicklucker
-he picked up why Chez is scum and FF is town
Fecalfeast
- bombing Chez is brilliant. I believe his claim and he’s the only hatter.
Onegu
- feels plus I like his mechanical analysis
LightningStrike
- Trust of the dead, too active for mafia LS
Vivax
- he’s alive because he’s useful for mafia, he does not promote town circles.

Alakaslam
- feels. I used to study Slam. This isn’t like any Slam I’ve ever seen. But feels.
Grackaroni
- he had a few posts I thought were spot on.
Mocsta
- probably should be null. Hmm

Jockmcplop
Meapak_ziph
Mr. Wiggles - I think he could be town BUT OMGUS, he half assed went after LS (LS rule), and most the dead wanted his lynch. Including Ticktock.
Darthfoley - POE mostly
Rels- mafia need a mason to find Traitor, Rsoultin said scum with good reason, and Ticktock, plus I think 8 blues is a bit much.

Pandain
- I’ll never believe that a town day vig would make this post + Show Spoiler [call 4 HF vig] +

On March 08 2019 18:43 Pandain wrote:
Hey everyone. For those who don't know me, I'm pretty sure it's pretty obvious to tell when I'm town or not when I'm actually playing. Expect to see a hell of a lot more activity, and actually I was pretty up to date with the whole part of day 2 when I asked Kita to replace after I saw AMG was similarly overwhelmed like me the first day.

I won't dwell on the past too much, but Holyflare 100% needs to be vigi'd tonight. It was remarkable watching the last day.

HF talk has already spammed the thread and later tonight I'm going to be looking into others, but I want to emphasize two points.

1. Fake claimed for no town reason . I don't care about fake claims in general ,I used to do it all the time. However, when Town does it it's because they have a reason to (and holyflare already established he did not just do it for the "Lolz".) There was no reason to fake-claim, and honestly I'm not sure about how it benefits mafia but it sure as hell makes no sense from a town perspective. Also can we just kill people who outright lie for no reason?

2. Furthermore, HF dying gives a huge amount of information. If he's mafia, I actually think we can start wrapping up the game because HF has been at the center of the thread and voting thread for both days. If he actually does just turn out to be a balls-out crazy town, I think it's very safe to say a good amount of mafia probably voted for him after he made his intentions clear to vote Palmar. Either way, town is in a good position.

However, I am pleading for a vigilante to end the job. The information best helps us if we know it at the start of the day cycle.

I'm actually not even certain I would support a Holyflare day 3 lynch.

Also just FYI BC and Ace need to die with fire if either of them live to day four.

It’s so incredibly overexplainy for someone who is going to shoot Holyflare.

Oatsmaster
- He townread then scumread Mr. Wiggles before this exchange + Show Spoiler [The Tube Trap] +
On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia


I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts:

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.


Then

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.


Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it.

Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!!

This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.

Oatsmaster, who waffles on Mr. Wiggles, immediately takes Wiggles word without hesitation or investigating the truthfulness of either mine or Wiggles filter and says I’m scum. This of course was based on a flat lie that Oatsmaster didn’t bother at all to investigate. He shouldn’t have trusted Wiggles word as he didn’t show any indication that he strongly townread Wiggles. A town always distrusts, and when I confronted Oats, he was just “oh I’m wrong, whoops” and then just did whatever he was doing. I would think town would question Wiggles a bit after that.

Chezinu
- there’s four scenarios concerning the Great FF/Chezinu Mad Hatter Debate of 2019.
      1)Both are Mafia. This would be so goddamn genius. Lynch one they flip mafia and the other is confirmed town with 0% chance of being questioned for not being NK’d. Having a backup Cop flip day one and HF going on how this is a themed game I can see a world where Chez and FF think up this shit. Especially if Sicklucker is mafia also. They’re all crafty. But I think it is unnecessary and considering there’s only two dead mafia, I think it’s unlikely. But yolo end of era plays. HF tried one.
      2) Fecalfeast/Chezinu- a one for one would be a complete waste. Almost zero chance.
      3) both town- possible. Mafia could hold the shot on FF hoping they could mlynch Chezinu, and then shoot FF if he places a bomb on a mafia friendly target the next night. Seems needlessly risky for two free dead towns.
      4)FecalfeastCezinu- mafia would never shoot in this instance unless for some crazy bad reason they thought FF was lying about his bomb. I think this is by far the most likely situation. My vote will not waver from Chezinu.


I haven’t had internet since Thursday. Apologies. This Thursday and Friday I probably won’t have it again. There were technical difficulties at work.

I’m caught up, going to be rereading stuff. I’ll be here for several hours.


One of the most correct posts in the game


Thanks! I really need to work on being town readable though. I can’t seem to stay active and even then my active is like still lurker.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2019 17:57 GMT
#8985
On March 18 2019 01:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
One other thing I will add is having DF and Pandain push for my lynch at the end really solidified oats as scum for me since those two were my top red picks.


Yes, that was intentional on my part. I knew that me pushing you would make you even more confident that Oats was scum. I don't blame you
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2019 18:02 GMT
#8986
On March 18 2019 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 01:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
One other thing I will add is having DF and Pandain push for my lynch at the end really solidified oats as scum for me since those two were my top red picks.


Yes, that was intentional on my part. I knew that me pushing you would make you even more confident that Oats was scum. I don't blame you

That was well done. I was super confident about Pandain and when you started to say the same stuff he did it really helped me make up my mind between you and exo. Of course by that point my town cred was shot so I was just happy to sheep acro and with y'all pushing me for the counter lynch I was sure we were on the right track.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2019 18:05 GMT
#8987
Yea. D1 was overall such a shit show for town. Especially in a 35 player game, it's honestly way too easy to sit back and do the minimum. Don't think anyone active should've ever been lynched early. I knew as long as I kept the activity to a minimum I could pretty much survive two days easily before having to work for cred
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2019 18:08 GMT
#8988
BH vs HF was honestly a travesty and Rayn vs Acro was also a problem. Too often I think townies get trapped into the mindset that the person they're arguing with has to be scum which results in active players getting lynched bc they had different reads from the majority.

Oats actually hit the nail on the head when he said "I'm active therefore I'm town" I almost unvoted him there but I didn't really have any other options.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 17 2019 18:22 GMT
#8989
I still don't understand why anyone would have wanted to lynch BH there. Think that was the worst part of the game.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18241 Posts
March 17 2019 18:24 GMT
#8990
On March 18 2019 02:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
Yeah, sorry town. My scumreads were way off.

Wiggles did well, when his radio show started, the palmar scumread just sorta faded away. It only really came back in the last 2 hours of the last day when he was screaming so adamantly for Oats lynch, but lets face it: we weren't going to get Pandain lynched either, and I didn't scumread MZ, so just stuck with Oats and figured Wiggles was either an overzealous townie, or busing. When Oats flipped green it was rather obvious, but also too late.

Jock played very well. His excuse for why his play dropped off was believable enough that his earlier activity just kept him in the green list.

Rels I thought was scum, but he convinced rsoultin and LS he was town, and that was all he really needed to do.

Lets face it, we were never even close to lynching any scum other than Sentinel this game. It was just town fighting with town.

Rayn calls me terrible, but pretty much the only thing he did was tunnel me and then die.

I still don't understand how we lynched Chezinu and how town allowed HF to shoot Palmar. It was just a total collective failing all around.

Day 1: 4 town wagons for lynching
Day 2: 2 town wagons for lynching
Day 4: 2 (3 if we count onegu) town wagons for lynching
Day 5: 2 town wagons for lynching



I get why it's nice to have something like that to lean on, but that never happened lol ><

Eh, you went from hard scumming him to null reading him... and maybe he spun it a bit at me, but essentially you weren't scumming him anymore when you died. And LS was definitely towning him any time anyone brought up that he might be scum.

Honestly, I find the closed setup too hard for town. A mafia dayvig and mason are not "normal" roles. And all the setup speculation made a hard game even harder.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18241 Posts
March 17 2019 18:25 GMT
#8991
On March 18 2019 03:22 Ace wrote:
I still don't understand why anyone would have wanted to lynch BH there. Think that was the worst part of the game.

That's just because you were dead already for the chezinu lynch. We had some terrible lynches this game.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 17 2019 18:27 GMT
#8992
Feel Free to sign up for fibonacci mafia!
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 17 2019 18:28 GMT
#8993
On March 18 2019 03:27 Onegu wrote:
Feel Free to sign up for fibonacci mafia!



Also someone cohost
Try TL Mafia!!!
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 17 2019 18:33 GMT
#8994
I wanted to apologize to everyone in the thread. I wasn’t able to dedicate very much time at all to the game and was basically completely worthless. gg all
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 17 2019 18:34 GMT
#8995
On March 18 2019 03:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 03:22 Ace wrote:
I still don't understand why anyone would have wanted to lynch BH there. Think that was the worst part of the game.

That's just because you were dead already for the chezinu lynch. We had some terrible lynches this game.


I saw that too and didn't get it

It's like when the person that had a wagon the day before didn't get lynched or NK'd, they just HAD to be a suspect next day with all previous knowledge about the day before thrown away. But Mafia team did a good job of never letting anyone get a solid hold of suspects.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2019 18:36 GMT
#8996
I think people need to remember that its ok to change your mind on your reads. As long as you have a good reason that you can back up, townies shouldn't be afraid of admitting they were wrong. I was wrong about grack being scum and I realized that. Although it cuts both ways bc I had wiggles as scum and talked myself out of it...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2019 18:44 GMT
#8997
On March 18 2019 02:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock played ok, all other mafia were just random shit not wanting to kill themselves. Well done Jock.


lol don't be a sore loser

nah i am not, i just cant deal with games where mafia makes more posts 1hr into post game than all real game. I call them no-games because they are no games.
table for two on a tv tray
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 17 2019 18:54 GMT
#8998
Honestly my town circle was probably the best. Too lazy to scum out that bottom clusterfuck tho
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 17 2019 18:58 GMT
#8999
Would have killed rels df wiggles for sure in 4 lynches. didnt have the other 2 in my town circle. That chez lynch lost us the game tho. Or even the bh one
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 17 2019 19:25 GMT
#9000
GG all. Thanks team for playing better than me!
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