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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 17 2019 16:05 GMT
#8961
BTW listening to dead townies is sometimes a good idea: 8 out of 13 dead townies scumread Wiggles at the point where I tried to compile a list of dead townies' reads. I had to scrap the idea because it made it obvious Wiggles was scum =D
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 17 2019 16:05 GMT
#8962
The hard thing for me is that even if you have feelings at the end of the game that Rels is mafia it's very hard to write a case against him that will get him lynched over the people left in the town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2019 16:05 GMT
#8963
On March 18 2019 01:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock played ok, all other mafia were just random shit not wanting to kill themselves. Well done Jock.

we played a really good game. Lying low when town were fighting themselves, townie enough to not be lynched but not enough so that it would be surprising we were not night killed, and influencing the thread when needed. The closest scum got to being lynched was Wiggles D5, and we managed to succeed at diverting the counterwagon to MZ.

I agree Jock played a really impressive game given it's his first one.

yeah you are dead every game after this when you play like that, no more "i cant play as town d1"
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2019 16:06 GMT
#8964
i should have voted you dead every time you didnt mason me N1.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 16:08:34
March 17 2019 16:06 GMT
#8965
my bad town
E: sorry tina. i was bad.
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 16:20:01
March 17 2019 16:19 GMT
#8966
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 17 2019 16:20 GMT
#8967
On March 18 2019 00:52 Vivax wrote:
Maybe one day I'll understand what made 13 townies vote HF to lynch Palmar. That wasn't just bad, it was sad.


Aint got no time follr a 100 page thread. People should have spammed that
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2019 16:20 GMT
#8968
I let acro draw me away from pandain/wiggles/DF. Rels I was on the fence with and I never had Jock on my radar so wp to him, I actually read his early game filter a lot. Having to go on Temporary duty to Utah and then flying every day really destroyed a lot of my town cred and ability to push people. I was almost 100% sure pandain was scum after his shot bc like I said in the thread, I'd down the same thing as scum before. Wiggles did a good job coming back with his reads and I let the deadzone lull me into a false sense of security. DF was obvi scum but I was afraid to push him for OMGUS reasons. At the end of the day I sheeped acro since I couldn't keep my activity up enough to build thread presence and I really did feel like the oats case was pretty good. Funny how if town had tried shenanigans at EOD to kill myself or exo we still would have hit green.

I think town was too quick to kill active voices. A few times I got accused of TMI for calling BH/HF and others town but I couldn't help but feel like we got into a lot of TvT and evem TvTvT situations. That said, despite the thread length I really didn't feel like this game was that long. Previously when I played, threads would feel like swamps to read through but every time I would filter dive one of the active players I would come away with a sense they were contributing well and not just spamming. That was what made people like Pandain and BC stick out.

I really hope this isn't the end of TL Mafia. I've played on and off here for almost 9 years and this place was sort of a haven for me when I was growing up. I like all the vets who showed up and had fun getting to know the new people I hadn't played with. I felt like the thread atmosphere was a lot of fun and I'd love to see us run a game maybe once a quarter or so, that way people don't get burned out and also have a chance to block out their schedules to play.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2019 16:25 GMT
#8969
One other thing I will add is having DF and Pandain push for my lynch at the end really solidified oats as scum for me since those two were my top red picks.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 17 2019 16:34 GMT
#8970
less roles next time
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 16:40:17
March 17 2019 16:40 GMT
#8971
All vigis next game
you gotta dance
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 17 2019 16:55 GMT
#8972
Yeah, sorry town. My scumreads were way off.

Wiggles did well, when his radio show started, the palmar scumread just sorta faded away. It only really came back in the last 2 hours of the last day when he was screaming so adamantly for Oats lynch, but lets face it: we weren't going to get Pandain lynched either, and I didn't scumread MZ, so just stuck with Oats and figured Wiggles was either an overzealous townie, or busing. When Oats flipped green it was rather obvious, but also too late.

Jock played very well. His excuse for why his play dropped off was believable enough that his earlier activity just kept him in the green list.

Rels I thought was scum, but he convinced rsoultin and LS he was town, and that was all he really needed to do.

Lets face it, we were never even close to lynching any scum other than Sentinel this game. It was just town fighting with town.

Rayn calls me terrible, but pretty much the only thing he did was tunnel me and then die.

I still don't understand how we lynched Chezinu and how town allowed HF to shoot Palmar. It was just a total collective failing all around.

Day 1: 4 town wagons for lynching
Day 2: 2 town wagons for lynching
Day 4: 2 (3 if we count onegu) town wagons for lynching
Day 5: 2 town wagons for lynching

Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 17 2019 17:03 GMT
#8973
GG. Fun game!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2019 17:11 GMT
#8974
On March 02 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town:
LightningStrike
Tumblewood
Conversion
Trfel
Tictock
Vivax
rsoultin

good town list
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 17 2019 17:23 GMT
#8975
On March 18 2019 01:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I really hope this isn't the end of TL Mafia. I've played on and off here for almost 9 years and this place was sort of a haven for me when I was growing up. I like all the vets who showed up and had fun getting to know the new people I hadn't played with. I felt like the thread atmosphere was a lot of fun and I'd love to see us run a game maybe once a quarter or so, that way people don't get burned out and also have a chance to block out their schedules to play.

Me too!
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2019 17:43 GMT
#8976
On March 12 2019 23:00 Tubesock wrote:
Acrofales - confirmed
Sicklucker
-he picked up why Chez is scum and FF is town
Fecalfeast
- bombing Chez is brilliant. I believe his claim and he’s the only hatter.
Onegu
- feels plus I like his mechanical analysis
LightningStrike
- Trust of the dead, too active for mafia LS
Vivax
- he’s alive because he’s useful for mafia, he does not promote town circles.

Alakaslam
- feels. I used to study Slam. This isn’t like any Slam I’ve ever seen. But feels.
Grackaroni
- he had a few posts I thought were spot on.
Mocsta
- probably should be null. Hmm

Jockmcplop
Meapak_ziph
Mr. Wiggles - I think he could be town BUT OMGUS, he half assed went after LS (LS rule), and most the dead wanted his lynch. Including Ticktock.
Darthfoley - POE mostly
Rels- mafia need a mason to find Traitor, Rsoultin said scum with good reason, and Ticktock, plus I think 8 blues is a bit much.

Pandain
- I’ll never believe that a town day vig would make this post + Show Spoiler [call 4 HF vig] +

On March 08 2019 18:43 Pandain wrote:
Hey everyone. For those who don't know me, I'm pretty sure it's pretty obvious to tell when I'm town or not when I'm actually playing. Expect to see a hell of a lot more activity, and actually I was pretty up to date with the whole part of day 2 when I asked Kita to replace after I saw AMG was similarly overwhelmed like me the first day.

I won't dwell on the past too much, but Holyflare 100% needs to be vigi'd tonight. It was remarkable watching the last day.

HF talk has already spammed the thread and later tonight I'm going to be looking into others, but I want to emphasize two points.

1. Fake claimed for no town reason . I don't care about fake claims in general ,I used to do it all the time. However, when Town does it it's because they have a reason to (and holyflare already established he did not just do it for the "Lolz".) There was no reason to fake-claim, and honestly I'm not sure about how it benefits mafia but it sure as hell makes no sense from a town perspective. Also can we just kill people who outright lie for no reason?

2. Furthermore, HF dying gives a huge amount of information. If he's mafia, I actually think we can start wrapping up the game because HF has been at the center of the thread and voting thread for both days. If he actually does just turn out to be a balls-out crazy town, I think it's very safe to say a good amount of mafia probably voted for him after he made his intentions clear to vote Palmar. Either way, town is in a good position.

However, I am pleading for a vigilante to end the job. The information best helps us if we know it at the start of the day cycle.

I'm actually not even certain I would support a Holyflare day 3 lynch.

Also just FYI BC and Ace need to die with fire if either of them live to day four.

It’s so incredibly overexplainy for someone who is going to shoot Holyflare.

Oatsmaster
- He townread then scumread Mr. Wiggles before this exchange + Show Spoiler [The Tube Trap] +
On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia


I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts:

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.


Then

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.


Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it.

Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!!

This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.

Oatsmaster, who waffles on Mr. Wiggles, immediately takes Wiggles word without hesitation or investigating the truthfulness of either mine or Wiggles filter and says I’m scum. This of course was based on a flat lie that Oatsmaster didn’t bother at all to investigate. He shouldn’t have trusted Wiggles word as he didn’t show any indication that he strongly townread Wiggles. A town always distrusts, and when I confronted Oats, he was just “oh I’m wrong, whoops” and then just did whatever he was doing. I would think town would question Wiggles a bit after that.

Chezinu
- there’s four scenarios concerning the Great FF/Chezinu Mad Hatter Debate of 2019.
      1)Both are Mafia. This would be so goddamn genius. Lynch one they flip mafia and the other is confirmed town with 0% chance of being questioned for not being NK’d. Having a backup Cop flip day one and HF going on how this is a themed game I can see a world where Chez and FF think up this shit. Especially if Sicklucker is mafia also. They’re all crafty. But I think it is unnecessary and considering there’s only two dead mafia, I think it’s unlikely. But yolo end of era plays. HF tried one.
      2) Fecalfeast/Chezinu- a one for one would be a complete waste. Almost zero chance.
      3) both town- possible. Mafia could hold the shot on FF hoping they could mlynch Chezinu, and then shoot FF if he places a bomb on a mafia friendly target the next night. Seems needlessly risky for two free dead towns.
      4)FecalfeastCezinu- mafia would never shoot in this instance unless for some crazy bad reason they thought FF was lying about his bomb. I think this is by far the most likely situation. My vote will not waver from Chezinu.


I haven’t had internet since Thursday. Apologies. This Thursday and Friday I probably won’t have it again. There were technical difficulties at work.

I’m caught up, going to be rereading stuff. I’ll be here for several hours.


One of the most correct posts in the game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 17 2019 17:43 GMT
#8977
On March 18 2019 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
Yeah, sorry town. My scumreads were way off.

Wiggles did well, when his radio show started, the palmar scumread just sorta faded away. It only really came back in the last 2 hours of the last day when he was screaming so adamantly for Oats lynch, but lets face it: we weren't going to get Pandain lynched either, and I didn't scumread MZ, so just stuck with Oats and figured Wiggles was either an overzealous townie, or busing. When Oats flipped green it was rather obvious, but also too late.

Jock played very well. His excuse for why his play dropped off was believable enough that his earlier activity just kept him in the green list.

Rels I thought was scum, but he convinced rsoultin and LS he was town, and that was all he really needed to do.

Lets face it, we were never even close to lynching any scum other than Sentinel this game. It was just town fighting with town.

Rayn calls me terrible, but pretty much the only thing he did was tunnel me and then die.

I still don't understand how we lynched Chezinu and how town allowed HF to shoot Palmar. It was just a total collective failing all around.

Day 1: 4 town wagons for lynching
Day 2: 2 town wagons for lynching
Day 4: 2 (3 if we count onegu) town wagons for lynching
Day 5: 2 town wagons for lynching



I get why it's nice to have something like that to lean on, but that never happened lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 17 2019 17:45 GMT
#8978
On March 18 2019 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
my bad town
E: sorry tina. i was bad.


I'm not upset with you no worries <3

Game was tough.

And I really find it funny Rels that you qt'd me cause you thought you could buddy me xDDDDD
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 17 2019 17:46 GMT
#8979
Gg
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 17 2019 17:49 GMT
#8980
On March 18 2019 02:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
my bad town
E: sorry tina. i was bad.


I'm not upset with you no worries <3

Game was tough.

And I really find it funny Rels that you qt'd me cause you thought you could buddy me xDDDDD

Thanks for the town read btw :D
Yeah that was definitely a bad plan lol
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