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On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages
Oh my god information is exactly what I'm trying to get lol. Conversion has decided that he's not interested in answering my questions and has deflected instead.
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On March 02 2019 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him. I find LS to be oddly apologetic with his play rn, Damdred didn't claim scum (which I view as inherently anti town) so I don't really care about his play, I just find it weird that LS wanted to blow it up so fast. This is what I'm talking about when I say "apologetic" On March 02 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? You don't, which is why you gotta vote for me since I'm advocating lynching the hella confirmed scum. You're ruining the fun man  Not like I was asking someone to use my gun to kill a 2nd game lol..... On March 02 2019 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:But HF it's just the start of the game I trying to have some fun On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons On March 02 2019 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? Because I speakign the truth? I wish I could be masoned with Damdred one of these games. Then why didnt you say so in the first place, because that's not what you said earlier, you just made a question about his comment. What's the difference with Trfel/Conversion making a comment (true or fake) about being mafia than Damdred lying about being masons? I mean do you think it's somehow less anti-town to lie about your role at the start of the game than making an obvious joke about being mafia (note that i am not saying mafia couldn't do that -- but giving your attitude towards these same sort of happenings in the thread i can't for my life understand why LS (most likely) tellign the truth is somehow more suspicious than Damdred (most likely) lying?
Yes because I legitimately want him to answer the question, I've already outlined why I didn't like the comment, I wanted to hear his reason.
And yes I do think it's significantly less anti town to claim a town roll in the beginning of a game when people are trolling rather than claim scum. That's more of a personal opinion so you can feel free to disagree but I think the type of information you can get from people with something like what Damdred said is far more valuable than what Trfel/Conversion said.
As an aside, it's not that I'm suspicious about LS for telling the truth, more with the tone that he's addressing things.
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On March 02 2019 11:17 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him. I find LS to be oddly apologetic with his play rn, Damdred didn't claim scum (which I view as inherently anti town) so I don't really care about his play, I just find it weird that LS wanted to blow it up so fast. This is what I'm talking about when I say "apologetic" On March 02 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? You don't, which is why you gotta vote for me since I'm advocating lynching the hella confirmed scum. You're ruining the fun man Not like I was asking someone to use my gun to kill a 2nd game lol..... On March 02 2019 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:But HF it's just the start of the game I trying to have some fun On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons On March 02 2019 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? Because I speakign the truth? I wish I could be masoned with Damdred one of these games. I wasn't being apologetic at all just reacting how I normally do to those type of posts? My first quote there was a reference to a game we played together in 2014 I want to say. I was reminding HF that it's a little early in the game to start acting serious. My 3rd quote was directly telling people I wasn't masons with Damdred since Damdred did claim I was masons with him. The last post was just me explaining that post.
The one advantage of not playing for a long time is that I've largely forgotten the "meta game" that was really prevalent around here in the early 2010s. I'm gonna this at face value for now though. What do you think of Conversion's suspicions of me?
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Aight I'm gonna go eat now.
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On March 02 2019 14:41 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 11:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 11:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am still wondering why Meapak clinged onto LS' post on not being masons with Damdred since given his attitude towards Trfel and Conversion Damdred's post of being masons should be 100% more concerning to him. I find LS to be oddly apologetic with his play rn, Damdred didn't claim scum (which I view as inherently anti town) so I don't really care about his play, I just find it weird that LS wanted to blow it up so fast. This is what I'm talking about when I say "apologetic" On March 02 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice But how do we know that you're town here? You don't, which is why you gotta vote for me since I'm advocating lynching the hella confirmed scum. You're ruining the fun man Not like I was asking someone to use my gun to kill a 2nd game lol..... On March 02 2019 10:23 LightningStrike wrote:But HF it's just the start of the game I trying to have some fun On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons On March 02 2019 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons Y u say this? Because I speakign the truth? I wish I could be masoned with Damdred one of these games. I wasn't being apologetic at all just reacting how I normally do to those type of posts? My first quote there was a reference to a game we played together in 2014 I want to say. I was reminding HF that it's a little early in the game to start acting serious. My 3rd quote was directly telling people I wasn't masons with Damdred since Damdred did claim I was masons with him. The last post was just me explaining that post. The one advantage of not playing for a long time is that I've largely forgotten the "meta game" that was really prevalent around here in the early 2010s. I'm gonna this at face value for now though. What do you think of Conversion's suspicions of me? Tictock doesn't like you very much.. how does that make you feel?
It makes me feel sad but you also tried to see if there was a hidden nuke mechanic on me and that also made me sad.
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On March 02 2019 15:05 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I've been out of my fix for far too long, it's about time we got this started :D
People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.
Looking back at PYP insane, Chez tried to look as scummy as possible and people passed it off as "just chez being chez." Looking at his opening post I almost feel like a similar theme is in the offing. It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post but I just want to put this out there, especially since there since foolishness and I are the only other people who were in that game so he may feel he can get away with it again.
gotta get out dat FoS: Chezinu Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ...
FoS: Chezinu ._. What part of FoS is me calling Chez scum? Can you tell me what FoS means? FoS means "I, Meapak_Ziphh, am afraid of putting out a strong stance because I'm worried I'll find out that Chez is scum with me-- I need an out" according to mafiascum wiki When Mafias Fight each other! Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 17:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys I'm not scum. Just getting that out of the way so we don't waste time tomorrow. ok.. Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Nobody listen to this. This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash. No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town. Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe. You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game. You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus. I'd be down a for a rayn lynch. Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here. Such fun times..
Holy shit Chez with deep dive. I'm not sure why you brought all of that up except that I seem to be trying to lynch you in all those games? I haven't said anything against you this game lmao. Those games are also like... 6 or 7 years old.
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On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts.
I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum.
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On March 02 2019 23:39 Conversion wrote:
also he was trying to fish for something completely irrelevant, like why I picked those names. which the answer is going to be totally NAI anyways because why would I say anything besides "I randomly picked those names for a joke"
Is that why you picked them? You pitched a fit over me asking and I just realized I don't think you ever answered lol.
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On March 03 2019 00:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:25 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 23:36 Vivax wrote:On March 02 2019 23:25 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Vivax wrote:
Trfels posts on this page read to me like a bit of minimum effort "scumhunting" coupled with sucking up to rsoultin when poked. I think you might be reading to much into it? Didn't seem like he was trying to suck it up to Tina at least to me. No? How come he just agrees lazily without even looking up what rso was talking about and realizing that what she "pointed out" wasn't even about Tubesock who mistakenly thought he was being mentioned. What? That's actually strictly false because I did do that. But it doesn't matter because Tubesock thought he wad being mentioned, so it doesn't matter that it wasn't even about him. So you don't agree with rso any more? Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:19 Conversion wrote:
As rayn said, his scum read on me is that I am trailing 2 of my mafia buddies in there as some sort of strategy, and when I specified the reason in the earlier quote [quote=Conversion]is your ironclad case of me being mafia the fact that I threw 6 random names as mafia? , he nitpicked my use of the word ironclad and ran with it. So I dropped it, found him suspicious, and moved on
[b]There is to date no official scumread from MZ on you. MZ wanted to know why those names cause if you are maybe mafia then you mixed in a few buddies in there. Don't ask me how he would have analyzed an answer if you gave it to him.[b]
Jesus fuck thank you lol. I started this yesterday just to get information. Calling someone confirmed scum off their first post in the thread is retarded. Did I find conversion's first post suspect? Yes. Did I want more information and to get him to talk more? Yes. In a way it worked but I don't understand why he keeps spinning it as me calling him scum. I'm not even voting for him rn yet you'd think I was about to drop the lynch hammer vote on him. His defensiveness is more suspicious than anything.
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On March 03 2019 01:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? you haven't read your role pm but you have a town read on yourself ![[image loading]](https://i.lensdump.com/i/AqeSyD.gif)
Someone said that they were suspicious of imp, I'm now down with it.
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On March 03 2019 02:28 iamperfection wrote:
ace you have anything useful to say about alignments you have only talked about the mayor?
Who is your top scum read at the moment?
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Aight I'm probably still drunk but I'm caught up with the thread.
I hated that third dude who scum claimed as his thread entry, that makes him, trfel, and conversion.
I Don't like iamp's constant questions and no reads, there are also a few others who are doing that as well but iamp is the most obvious.
I'm still running for mayor so vote me and I'll lynch one of the three people who claimed scum with their first post
Gonna take a nap
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Ah snap iamp posted more of exactly what I didn't like while I was writing my last post.
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On March 03 2019 04:21 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ah snap iamp posted more of exactly what I didn't like while I was writing my last post. do you think im mafia for real ? or do just not like my posts. it isnt quite clear
Fuckit, yeah I have scum read on you right now based on your complete lack of contribution other than questions which you don't follow up. Right now it feels like you're posting for the sake of activity rather than actually trying to gain anything from the questions you ask.
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On March 03 2019 04:51 rsoultin wrote:The experiment commences! I love experiments. Slam's in my no-lynch list today, too. And I'll grant HF the TT read cause that's totally what I did as scum I think a few times? For indeterminate feels reasons I disagree but that's kinda par for the course for me. Sentinel can hang if Chez/rayn aren't in the nooses. Jock's MZ reasoning makes me want to townread him. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts. I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum. Also, this post from MZ...while I'm glad he's focusing on something new, he's not saying anything here. I don't know if you think Grack is scum or you're just lecturing him on how to play @.@ Which is funny cause I also wasn't a huge fan of Grack's post.
I mean its hard to develop a full read off of a single post (possible but very difficult) but as you note yourself that was a super poor post from Grack. Like I've noted earlier I hate when people vaguely mention they have "suspicions" then don't talk about who they're suspcious of, I like to address things I don't like. And speaking of things I don't like, Grack's last few posts on this page have also been very poor imo.
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On March 03 2019 05:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 02:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 15:05 Chezinu wrote:On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I've been out of my fix for far too long, it's about time we got this started :D
People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.
Looking back at PYP insane, Chez tried to look as scummy as possible and people passed it off as "just chez being chez." Looking at his opening post I almost feel like a similar theme is in the offing. It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post but I just want to put this out there, especially since there since foolishness and I are the only other people who were in that game so he may feel he can get away with it again.
gotta get out dat FoS: Chezinu On July 16 2012 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ...
FoS: Chezinu ._. What part of FoS is me calling Chez scum? Can you tell me what FoS means? FoS means "I, Meapak_Ziphh, am afraid of putting out a strong stance because I'm worried I'll find out that Chez is scum with me-- I need an out" according to mafiascum wiki When Mafias Fight each other! On January 05 2013 17:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys I'm not scum. Just getting that out of the way so we don't waste time tomorrow. ok.. On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Nobody listen to this. This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash. No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town. Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe. You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game. You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus. I'd be down a for a rayn lynch. Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here. Such fun times.. Holy shit Chez with deep dive. I'm not sure why you brought all of that up except that I seem to be trying to lynch you in all those games? I haven't said anything against you this game lmao. Those games are also like... 6 or 7 years old. None has a deeper nostalgia, a wider memory, a greater appropriateness for this game. I scumread chezinu but I want him the last member alive. He has earned that distinction. Explain this jesus fuck. I do not care that Slam says he is low hanging fruit. The guy literally just said this is my scum read but im not going to lynch him.
Huh... yeah you don't scumread someone and then say you're not going to push them. I have chez as town for one thing and for another, even if you think your read is low hanging fruit its your job as town to kill scum. All the better if you think you've got an easy case.
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Oats I'd love for you to elaborate on those reads. Some of them I obviously agree with but I'm curious how you got to where you are.
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On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,
iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town
tictock is reaching real far for their reads
Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men
HF too serious to be town
Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense
These are... not great reasons lol.
I also don't like iamp but more because of his useless posting.
Acro and HF are town for me.
I wanted to hear more about your conversion read but after seeing this post I'm not so sure I want to be disappointed again.
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On March 03 2019 07:08 rsoultin wrote:Yeah yolo lol >< Chez can be second lynch! \o/
Is this really gonna be your reason for a lynch? That's a very quick switch from wanting chez/rayn/myself dead.
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On March 03 2019 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 07:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 03 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
mocsta posted one post and peaced ~~ possibly town,
iamp is putting in way too much effort to be town
tictock is reaching real far for their reads
Acro actually is a lawyer and lawyers should be lynched cause they are bad men
HF too serious to be town
Ace actually posted the worst idea ive ever seen what was that nonsense These are... not great reasons lol. I also don't like iamp but more because of his useless posting. Acro and HF are town for me. I wanted to hear more about your conversion read but after seeing this post I'm not so sure I want to be disappointed again. why on earth is acro town
I like this post:
On March 03 2019 06:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 03:06 Tictock wrote:On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic? 100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor. Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game. I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all. HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree. Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch. #540Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now: Meap Grack Jock Mr. Wiggles Acro Bloddy HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it. I don't agree with much of this, but I do like the post. 1) Rsoultin is posting easy reads and not actually doing much poking. I don't know how she'd go on anybody's town reads so far, and definitely nowhere near mayor material. 2) Cobbler posted some reads and something provocative, and gave time for them to answer. I liked his first post and will wait for more. The fact that he's aggressive seems fine. Not going to do anything meta with it, because the last time I played mafia is probably 4 years ago or so and while I remember playing with Cobbler I can't for the life of me remember his alignment. I do remember him being aggressive tho, but not abusive. 3) Everybody should be on your watch list. We are not even halfway though D1... but if I take it to mean a list of people who are posting suspiciously, the only ones I agree with is Grack. I don't understand the list anyway without justifications. Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active". And I remember Grack being quite a useful player, so I agree with you there. The rest? Haven't even seen a post by Wiggles, Meepack seems no worse than most people, and Jock I'd say more clueless town than anything else. Cobbler see above, and HF actually seems to be trying some things too.
In particular I like the stuff on the grack read and in light of rsoultin's switch from chez to oats I agree with his points about her posting easy reads but not taking them seriously.
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