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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 07 2018 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the plan because it goes really badly if Krogan is scum, and I think there is still a decent chance that he is scum. Thinking about the president powers I'd rather try Kita or Rels (would prefer Rels but I assume it will be Kita) and leave you with the check if there's a failed mission. Basically your town ppl are; you, me, conversion, rels, kitaman right? No I'm pretty close to the same page as Rels. I think the most likely team is Prplhz/Kitaman/HK Can you elaborate here a bit more. Why does Conversion's gov pass if this is the case? Or even your gov?
lol I got crucified for suggesting a Grack + Conversion team, yet HK said that he was going to nominate me about 5 times, before he ended up with rayn. That team really doesn't make sense.
Plus each of the last two votes reached majority with a single vote being able to swing things. On day two, I announced that I was passing your grack + conv team and then krogran decided to switch his vote to pass afterwards as well. There is really no reason for us to send it through.
Plus there was the whole prpl throwing my name out at the start of the game for no good reason thing, which I think shows that it's pretty obvious we're not buddies either.
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I mean we just downvote the next three governments until there is a liberal policy in the first two.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
For single card draws, you're saying?
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On November 07 2018 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the plan because it goes really badly if Krogan is scum, and I think there is still a decent chance that he is scum. Thinking about the president powers I'd rather try Kita or Rels (would prefer Rels but I assume it will be Kita) and leave you with the check if there's a failed mission. Basically your town ppl are; you, me, conversion, rels, kitaman right? No I'm pretty close to the same page as Rels. I think the most likely team is Prplhz/Kitaman/HK Can you elaborate here a bit more. Why does Conversion's gov pass if this is the case? Or even your gov?
Kitaman/HK were both pushing against Conversion which aside from you was why I ended up choosing Prplhz, so I didn't like that.
If this is town/town then maybe you are right and Rels/Byj are scum downvoting and one scum upvoted. But if prplhz is scum then I'm much more suspicious of Kita/HK who passed the mission when it was going to be a close vote. (Also if I was mafia then this is like your entire mafia team down voting a scum mission and all town upvoting.)
On November 03 2018 07:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Nein!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Ja!
5. Rels - Nein!
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
Honestly I haven't put much effort into analyzing anything recently though and I may be completely wrong just from looking at the second vote count. I recall Happykrogan kind of wavering his way into voting yes on this and being kind of suspicious of it but I don't see remember anything about Prplhz here and I don't see why scum prplhz would upvote this mission if you/conversion are both town.
On November 06 2018 10:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Ja!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Nein!
5. Rels - has been warned for not voting
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
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Meh, shit...
We downvote you, the next whoever that was, me -> 1F
We downvote next 3 -> 2F -> krogan gets investigation -> krogan investigates you (gets town - you're ok, gets scum, one of you 2 are scum and we re-evaluate)
We downvote next 3 (if you = town) -> 3F -> you get to choose president there
Now if this happens, we will re-evaluate there.
If there is a liberal passed anywhere on the path we re-evaluate there.
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On November 07 2018 07:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the plan because it goes really badly if Krogan is scum, and I think there is still a decent chance that he is scum. Thinking about the president powers I'd rather try Kita or Rels (would prefer Rels but I assume it will be Kita) and leave you with the check if there's a failed mission. Basically your town ppl are; you, me, conversion, rels, kitaman right? No I'm pretty close to the same page as Rels. I think the most likely team is Prplhz/Kitaman/HK Can you elaborate here a bit more. Why does Conversion's gov pass if this is the case? Or even your gov? Kitaman/HK were both pushing against Conversion which aside from you was why I ended up choosing Prplhz, so I didn't like that. If this is town/town then maybe you are right and Rels/Byj are scum downvoting and one scum upvoted. But if prplhz is scum then I'm much more suspicious of Kita/HK who passed the mission when it was going to be a close vote. (Also if I was mafia then this is like your entire mafia team down voting a scum mission and all town upvoting.) Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 07:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Nein!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Ja!
5. Rels - Nein!
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
Honestly I haven't put much effort into analyzing anything recently though and I may be completely wrong just from looking at the second vote count. I recall Happykrogan kind of wavering his way into voting yes on this and being kind of suspicious of it but I don't see remember anything about Prplhz here and I don't see why scum prplhz would upvote this mission if you/conversion are both town. Show nested quote +On November 06 2018 10:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Ja!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Nein!
5. Rels - has been warned for not voting
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
I can't figure out your conclusion here. Can you put some effort at some point into well.. making a conclusion. Because to me it feels like you aren't really saying anything like "this is why i think this is true" instead of "this might be or this might not be".
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On November 07 2018 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the plan because it goes really badly if Krogan is scum, and I think there is still a decent chance that he is scum. Thinking about the president powers I'd rather try Kita or Rels (would prefer Rels but I assume it will be Kita) and leave you with the check if there's a failed mission. Basically your town ppl are; you, me, conversion, rels, kitaman right? No I'm pretty close to the same page as Rels. I think the most likely team is Prplhz/Kitaman/HK Can you elaborate here a bit more. Why does Conversion's gov pass if this is the case? Or even your gov? lol I got crucified for suggesting a Grack + Conversion team, yet HK said that he was going to nominate me about 5 times, before he ended up with rayn. That team really doesn't make sense. Plus each of the last two votes reached majority with a single vote being able to swing things. On day two, I announced that I was passing your grack + conv team and then krogran decided to switch his vote to pass afterwards as well. There is really no reason for us to send it through. Plus there was the whole prpl throwing my name out at the start of the game for no good reason thing, which I think shows that it's pretty obvious we're not buddies either.
I don't think it shows that you're not obviously buddies and also that's not a bad thing for scum to do imo. If You/Conversion go on mission one and it's sabotaged then that is really bad for mafia. It's not a bad strategy to aim for scum president/town chancellor.
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He is talking about first government and you just kinda explained why kita and krogan are not mafia together..
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 07 2018 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meh, shit...
We downvote you, the next whoever that was, me -> 1F
We downvote next 3 -> 2F -> krogan gets investigation -> krogan investigates you (gets town - you're ok, gets scum, one of you 2 are scum and we re-evaluate)
We downvote next 3 (if you = town) -> 3F -> you get to choose president there
Now if this happens, we will re-evaluate there.
If there is a liberal passed anywhere on the path we re-evaluate there.
Do you think that's better than passing a Kita/Krogan pair with a 65% chance of a liberal card getting to Krogan and then doing a single draw rotation afterwards if we get FFF since that would leave the deck at 3F, 2L and then we can follow through like planned?
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On November 07 2018 07:35 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meh, shit...
We downvote you, the next whoever that was, me -> 1F
We downvote next 3 -> 2F -> krogan gets investigation -> krogan investigates you (gets town - you're ok, gets scum, one of you 2 are scum and we re-evaluate)
We downvote next 3 (if you = town) -> 3F -> you get to choose president there
Now if this happens, we will re-evaluate there.
If there is a liberal passed anywhere on the path we re-evaluate there. Do you think that's better than passing a Kita/Krogan pair with a 65% chance of a liberal card getting to Krogan and then doing a single draw rotation afterwards if we get FFF since that would leave the deck at 3F, 2L and then we can follow through like planned?
The problem is that's not going to necessarily be 3F 2L. If the last draw would have 100% chance of drawing at least 1L (unless someone is lying) it'd make perfect sense to do that, but i wanna cover possible "fuck ups" with at least [i]guaranteed[/] information.
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If i did know for sure that chance is 65% i'd take it but unfortunately i am not sure about you at this point. 
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I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.
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Like he literally confronted people for exactly the same points i did before...
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On October 31 2018 04:29 kitaman27 wrote:
It sounds like we're talking about different situations. I'm saying roll with the good guys as long as we can and once we hit a fail, re-evaluate if it's a 3F or sabotage. Electing Hitler won't need to be something to worry about as much before that because we're not at that threshold. Once we do cross that threshold, it obviously becomes a bigger concern.
so what do we do now?
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On November 07 2018 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 07:29 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On November 07 2018 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2018 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the plan because it goes really badly if Krogan is scum, and I think there is still a decent chance that he is scum. Thinking about the president powers I'd rather try Kita or Rels (would prefer Rels but I assume it will be Kita) and leave you with the check if there's a failed mission. Basically your town ppl are; you, me, conversion, rels, kitaman right? No I'm pretty close to the same page as Rels. I think the most likely team is Prplhz/Kitaman/HK Can you elaborate here a bit more. Why does Conversion's gov pass if this is the case? Or even your gov? Kitaman/HK were both pushing against Conversion which aside from you was why I ended up choosing Prplhz, so I didn't like that. If this is town/town then maybe you are right and Rels/Byj are scum downvoting and one scum upvoted. But if prplhz is scum then I'm much more suspicious of Kita/HK who passed the mission when it was going to be a close vote. (Also if I was mafia then this is like your entire mafia team down voting a scum mission and all town upvoting.) On November 03 2018 07:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Nein!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Ja!
5. Rels - Nein!
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
Honestly I haven't put much effort into analyzing anything recently though and I may be completely wrong just from looking at the second vote count. I recall Happykrogan kind of wavering his way into voting yes on this and being kind of suspicious of it but I don't see remember anything about Prplhz here and I don't see why scum prplhz would upvote this mission if you/conversion are both town. On November 06 2018 10:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1. happykrogan - Ja!
2. Grackaroni - Ja!
3. Conversion - Ja!
4. kitaman27 - Nein!
5. Rels - has been warned for not voting
6. raynpelikoneet - Ja!
7. byj - Nein!
8. prplhz - Ja!
I can't figure out your conclusion here. Can you put some effort at some point into well.. making a conclusion. Because to me it feels like you aren't really saying anything like "this is why i think this is true" instead of "this might be or this might not be".
Yeah I haven't really done my homework for this game to make a conclusion. Those are just my thoughts after you asked me to look at the votes. My feelings about this game are effected a lot by assuming Prplhz is scum.
I did check HK's meta just now and he hasn't actually even played a game as mafia yet, so he's probably not scum this game after all judging from how well he started off the game.
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On November 07 2018 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Those are just my thoughts after you asked me to look at the votes.
I dont understand this either since if you just look at the votes the scumteam is "obviously" byj/Rels/kitaman for you at least.
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On November 07 2018 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Those are just my thoughts after you asked me to look at the votes. I dont understand this either since if you just look at the votes the scumteam is "obviously" byj/Rels/kitaman for you at least.
lol well idk what to tell you my scum team thought was Prplhz + the two town votes on that mission.
That might be because Byj/Rels have both been very pro-Grackaroni and I'm dumb lol.
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Why has byj been pro-Grackaroni?
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Like idk, i have a very hard time believing you basically think all mafia have voted yes all the time in almost all-town missions....
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EPT
