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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 14:03 GMT
#721
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 14:05 GMT
#722
On November 07 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.

Or kita/grack enacts liberal or me/conversion enact liberal after.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:33 GMT
#723
On November 07 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.

That seems just so backward. The goal is to pass liberal policies. If we get to using powers it means we failed a little bit
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:33 GMT
#724
Plus you're supposed to be able to read me very well, you don't need investigation
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:35 GMT
#725
Plus you re not coherent. In the last page you were like "maybe Rels is town but I will punish him because I'm a bully that punishes people that don't play the way I like". And now you're back to me being scummier than anyone else
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:35 GMT
#726
On November 07 2018 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.

Or kita/grack enacts liberal or me/conversion enact liberal after.

Since kita is very likely scum, it won't happen
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 15:08 GMT
#727
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 07 2018 15:28 GMT
#728
I have family coming up starting today so not a lot of time to play.

I think the best way to approach it is go for elections (so elect most townie people as chancellors), reject everything that seems way to scummy. We can possibly eat one facist policy being enacted before rayn, since if we do, we should 100% skip until rayn is president, and then if he eats a policy he gets to investigate, otherwise we most likely get a liberal policy passed, leaving us at 4-1, or 3-2 with one either confirmed facist or confirmed liberal, which is super good still for us.

If a liberal policy is passed, I think we enact Rels's presidency anyways to try and set up investigative on rayn.

I think rayn's plan was similar to this? not quite sure-- haven't had to time to read deeply into it.

That's how I think I want to play until the reshuffle
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 07 2018 15:36 GMT
#729
so kita should elect grack I think? and then if a facist gets passed, we pass and rayn elects who he wants and it's a win win either way, bigger win we get liberal policy, pretty big win if facist is passed and he gets investigative.

if kita/grack gets a liberal passed, we enact rels+rayn team, and if this yields a a facist policy we set up investigative for rayn going into as 4L 1F, which is an even more ideal position

the only real problem with this plan is if rayn is not liberal ofc, but I have no reason to believe that the moment
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 15:36 GMT
#730
On November 08 2018 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.

Well whatever you said, that I was making more sense or something

Dunno why you think I want to ruin the game, don't know why you think I scum read you or conversation when I probably townread conversion before you. You re the one ruining my fun of playing the game here, but I'll just talk to other people I guess
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 15:40 GMT
#731
On November 08 2018 00:36 Conversion wrote:
so kita should elect grack I think? and then if a facist gets passed, we pass and rayn elects who he wants and it's a win win either way, bigger win we get liberal policy, pretty big win if facist is passed and he gets investigative.

if kita/grack gets a liberal passed, we enact rels+rayn team, and if this yields a a facist policy we set up investigative for rayn going into as 4L 1F, which is an even more ideal position

the only real problem with this plan is if rayn is not liberal ofc, but I have no reason to believe that the moment

I see your intent but I disagree since I'm pretty sure kita is scum. We can pass kita, elect me/Grack; then if a facsist pass you can go on with your plan, if a liberal passes we have basically won
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 07 2018 15:43 GMT
#732
On November 08 2018 00:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 00:36 Conversion wrote:
so kita should elect grack I think? and then if a facist gets passed, we pass and rayn elects who he wants and it's a win win either way, bigger win we get liberal policy, pretty big win if facist is passed and he gets investigative.

if kita/grack gets a liberal passed, we enact rels+rayn team, and if this yields a a facist policy we set up investigative for rayn going into as 4L 1F, which is an even more ideal position

the only real problem with this plan is if rayn is not liberal ofc, but I have no reason to believe that the moment

I see your intent but I disagree since I'm pretty sure kita is scum. We can pass kita, elect me/Grack; then if a facsist pass you can go on with your plan, if a liberal passes we have basically won


yeah rereading my plan I think you're right in that it boils down to skipping you or kita again.. more inclined to skip kitaman so I'll rethink and redive.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 15:46 GMT
#733
On November 08 2018 00:28 Conversion wrote:
I have family coming up starting today so not a lot of time to play.

I think the best way to approach it is go for elections (so elect most townie people as chancellors), reject everything that seems way to scummy. We can possibly eat one facist policy being enacted before rayn, since if we do, we should 100% skip until rayn is president, and then if he eats a policy he gets to investigate, otherwise we most likely get a liberal policy passed, leaving us at 4-1, or 3-2 with one either confirmed facist or confirmed liberal, which is super good still for us.

If a liberal policy is passed, I think we enact Rels's presidency anyways to try and set up investigative on rayn.

I think rayn's plan was similar to this? not quite sure-- haven't had to time to read deeply into it.

That's how I think I want to play until the reshuffle

Yes thats what i am saying.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 15:49 GMT
#734
On November 08 2018 00:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.

Well whatever you said, that I was making more sense or something

Dunno why you think I want to ruin the game, don't know why you think I scum read you or conversation when I probably townread conversion before you. You re the one ruining my fun of playing the game here, but I'll just talk to other people I guess

Then you should have played when it mattered. You dont get to come here and tell why i am an idiot ehen you once again fucking afkd bssically for a week. Your d2 "playing" was what i could have done on maybe 15 minutes, and you didnt even vote d3 so yeah... there you go.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:04 GMT
#735
On November 08 2018 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 00:36 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.

Well whatever you said, that I was making more sense or something

Dunno why you think I want to ruin the game, don't know why you think I scum read you or conversation when I probably townread conversion before you. You re the one ruining my fun of playing the game here, but I'll just talk to other people I guess

Then you should have played when it mattered. You dont get to come here and tell why i am an idiot ehen you once again fucking afkd bssically for a week. Your d2 "playing" was what i could have done on maybe 15 minutes, and you didnt even vote d3 so yeah... there you go.

You're the reason I didn't play D3. I was getting up to speed D2 and you bullied me with nonsensical reasons. You're still blinded by your self righteousness and don't want to admit I made the scum team show face before deadline
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 07 2018 16:22 GMT
#736
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 16:24 GMT
#737
If you got mad at me because i disagreed with your "there is scum in krogan / rayn kthxbye" sentiment then you should have probably explained it better as i asked you to do and just not ditch the game instead. You provided no reasoning that makes sense to anyone who is town other than posaibly you, and you are, or ahoud be, bright enough to know thats not a convincing argument to oter people than yourself.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:24 GMT
#738
Lol
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 16:25 GMT
#739
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

Why is it not possible krogan drew LLF?
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:26 GMT
#740
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game.

That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense
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