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On November 08 2018 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you got mad at me because i disagreed with your "there is scum in krogan / rayn kthxbye" sentiment then you should have probably explained it better as i asked you to do and just not ditch the game instead. You provided no reasoning that makes sense to anyone who is town other than posaibly you, and you are, or ahoud be, bright enough to know thats not a convincing argument to oter people than yourself.
I had nothing to explain, it was a small thought without much reasoning that you blew out of proportion. That was the reason I wanted to talk to you about it, it was because it was just a hunch without much thought.
By nonsensical reason I was mostly referring to your burst about the fact that I should have known the rules about a game that I never played and the op said otherwise
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. Why is it not possible krogan drew LLF?
It's possible, but I don't really think it's likely considering I think he's town. Aside from it being half as likely statistically and making grack's LLF draw even less likely, there isn't a great reason to lie about it since he's passing LF either way and you could get caught later in the game, where as the return is a bit of extra cred that people may not necessarily care about. Krogan has looked rather townie otherwise with the way he went about choosing his first chancellor and has a good voting record.
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways. Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game. That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense
That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways."
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You have until tomorrow's deadline (30-31 hours from now) to vote but you can start sending them in now if you like.
The ticket is President kitaman27 and Chancellor Grackaroni
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On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways. Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game. That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways."
The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices.
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It makes sense from the other to prepare for the eventuality that you or me discard a liberal policy, and rayn gets FFF. But if you're town this scenario can't happen
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 01:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways. Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game. That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways." The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices.
That's a good thing since it would mean we would be at 5 liberal and 1 facist.
And if we get really unlucky with the 2 liberal cards at the bottom of the deck then we have the DT fallback, but I think it's like 3.5% chance of happening if everyone was truthful with their draws.
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:42 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways. Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game. That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways." The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices. That's a good thing since it would mean we would be at 5 liberal and 1 facist. And if we get really unlucky with the 2 liberal cards at the bottom of the deck then we have the DT fallback, but I think it's like 3.5% chance of happening if everyone was truthful with their draws.
Unless rayn passing a liberal card and that player happens to be facist, but that scenario could happen basically any way we set things up.
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I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF?
On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve.
I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]
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On November 08 2018 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 01:42 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts. I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless. I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways. Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game. That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways." The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices. That's a good thing since it would mean we would be at 5 liberal and 1 facist. And if we get really unlucky with the 2 liberal cards at the bottom of the deck then we have the DT fallback, but I think it's like 3.5% chance of happening if everyone was truthful with their draws.
Ok. Your off subject. I'm attacking this part of your post:
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.
This reasoning seems very reasonable at first glance, but you cannot have made it as town. If you're town and since you strongly townread Grack, the " I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one" is not something you could have thought, since it has no chance of happening; if you get unlucky and get FFF, rayn is almost sure to have a liberal card, and thus don't have investigative power.
I think you submitted the Grack choice to hosts then wrote this little paragraph to justify it without much thoughts. It was a seemingly reasonable paragraph at first glance, but it doesn't make sense if you're town.
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On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF? Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve. I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]
Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ?
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 04:40 Rels wrote:
I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one" is not something you could have thought, since it has no chance of happening; if you get unlucky and get FFF, rayn is almost sure to have a liberal card, and thus don't have investigative power.
That would be FFF, followed by FFF or FFL with a facist chancellor. It's more likely that we just win outright, but meh.
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On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF? On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve. I still think it's a good plan and not naive =] Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ?
Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?
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kitaman27
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On November 08 2018 05:28 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF? On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve. I still think it's a good plan and not naive =] Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ? Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?
There is a 35.5% chance regardless of who is elected.
You can change your vote, but you really shouldn't. It's just going to pass to Rels afterwards who will get downvoted, then passed to rayn who has the same chance of getting FFF.
You said yourself that grack is the only player you trust. I don't think you'll ever get elected so this really is the best you'll get.
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On November 08 2018 05:28 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote:On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF? On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve. I still think it's a good plan and not naive =] Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ? Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?
I assume you can until deadline
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On November 08 2018 05:36 kitaman27 wrote:
There is a 35.5% chance regardless of who is elected.
You can change your vote, but you really shouldn't. It's just going to pass to Rels afterwards who will get downvoted, then passed to rayn who has the same chance of getting FFF.
Pretty sure I won't. I think only you and krogan are having me scummier than you. Rayn doesn't want me but I don't think he scum read me more than you, he just doesn't like me this game. Maybe I'm wrong and he will correct but that's what it feels like.
Anyway, evn with rayn that's just 3 people.
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Byj I don't understand your thought process. If you dislike kita, what's the difference between him having FFF and him having FFL ? If you think he's scum, he will pass FF to the chancellor in either scenario
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On November 07 2018 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2018 12:05 byj wrote:On November 07 2018 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why has byj been pro-Grackaroni? Feels townie especially with how Election #2 went, seems very genuine, especially with supposedly discarding the F from LLF Why does Grackaroni look more town than any other president? Like Grackaroni literally should get less town credit from his actions than any other president so far because passing 2L is less townie than passing 1F1L. I am amused how you come to this conclusion and it's your pretty much ONLY conclusion in this game. Explain to me, if prplhz is town what does it matter if Grackaroni as scum gives him one or two liberal cards???
Answer this byj please.
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Hey I know I didn't play for days. I'm tempted to just pass this to see what happens. This particular strategy is working well.
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