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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:09 GMT
#781
TBF I think my team will be the one that passes, not kita's, because apart from what I think is the scum team, you're the only one voting YES atm.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 23:11 GMT
#782
On November 08 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
I think your plan is a good way to play the game from your position, where you're unsure of kita / me. But you still should push for who you think is townier to pass their teams.

The problem is there might be some dumb townspeople who can ruin this shit, so i'd rather take my chances on having two chances on passing one team before me than one. If you can convince people to accept you+grack over kita+grack then i can vote no here. It's up to you.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:12 GMT
#783
On November 08 2018 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
I think your plan is a good way to play the game from your position, where you're unsure of kita / me. But you still should push for who you think is townier to pass their teams.

The problem is there might be some dumb townspeople who can ruin this shit, so i'd rather take my chances on having two chances on passing one team before me than one. If you can convince people to accept you+grack over kita+grack then i can vote no here. It's up to you.

I'm pretty sure everyone outside of kita / krogan likes me more than kita.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2018 23:12 GMT
#784
But for that i need a written confirmation from people and if any-fucking-one of them fucks it up they can just stop posting because i am gonna bury them.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:13 GMT
#785
finally it feels good to play this game
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 08 2018 00:19 GMT
#786
On November 08 2018 08:13 Rels wrote:
finally it feels good to play this game


lol passing 3 straight liberal policies didn't feel good, but getting a shot at getting elected does? Okay
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 00:25 GMT
#787
On November 08 2018 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 08:13 Rels wrote:
finally it feels good to play this game


lol passing 3 straight liberal policies didn't feel good, but getting a shot at getting elected does? Okay

nope, having a real conversation feels a lot better than everyone scumreading me or telling me I'm bad
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 04:55 GMT
#788
going to sleep. Grack, Conversion, byj, could you say that you will vote YES to a Grack / Rels team if kita / Grack doesn't pass ? So rayn is happy
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2018 10:18 GMT
#789
So for anyone who is town todays mission is to tell which one of Rels / kitaman is town and lay it out it the thread. And do not use "i didn't have time" as an excuse. If you don't have time i am expecting you to vote yes to this mission regardless of what you think of kitaman. No other play is acceptable.

Unless you for some reason think i am mafia (Conversion's alignment doesn't even matter here). It is true i would have maybe played liberal card as scum in the first mission with krogan in case i was scum, but i would sure as hell not played a liberal card in the last mission, because there is simply almost no way for me to win giving town 3-0 lead at this point, regardless of how much town credit it gives me.

Ironically, if you think both kitaman and Rels are scum, you need to vote yes there too. Because we need to accept one of kita's/Rels' team and pass the other one regardless of the outcome. That way either the investigation will go to closest confirmed town (which is me, feel free to disagree with actual reasoning that is not "i know i am town" -- that's not really any sort of reasoning since it's just stupid), or we enact a liberal policy in either kita's / rels' team, or after that in my team.

That would put us in 4-0 (4-1) and it's basically impossible to lose. If i get the investigation i will inv prplhz, i either get town which always wins us the game, or i get mafia, which basically guarantees Rels as town. If that happens, then Conversion's affiliation comes into play. You can always argue that "he got 2L1F and had to pass at least 1L to you" but yeah, other presidents had that chance too, and well.. we can discuss that then, i don't wanna give answers to anyone here.

So, please, make use of your time today. Make some actual reads now if you haven't. This is probably the most significant point of the game. Please do not fuck this up if you are town. I'm gonna go to work and i'll be back at last ~2 hrs before the deadline.
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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 11:16 GMT
#790
On November 07 2018 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
happykrogan have you played secret hitler before?

no
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 11:17 GMT
#791
On November 07 2018 12:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 05:07 happykrogan wrote:
On October 25 2018 04:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

The game consists of 8 players in total:

1 player is Hitler.
There are 2 other fascists who know Hitler. Hitler does not know who the fascists are.
There is no QT for any of the fascists. All communication is in-thread.


Hitler does not not know.
Not the fascist don't know.
So they probably know each other... At least I thought so the whole game.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 05:19 happykrogan wrote:
On November 04 2018 05:11 byj wrote:
On November 04 2018 05:00 Rels wrote:
do fascists really know each other ? I thought that too, but reading the OP it looks like they don't

Oh you're right
There are 2 other fascists who know Hitler. Hitler does not know who the fascists are.

So I guess they'll have to find out with communication onto the same person, should be no other way to differentiate between hitler and fascist otherwise

Here to reinforce the idea fascist don't know other, because you're fascist and it's wrong? Why else would that be the only thing you say right now?
I mean you could use the time to tell us why you voted but didn't talk.

The bolded is ridiculous. First, what possible gain would scum would have to lie about something so easily disproved ?

Second, there is a disconnect between your two posts. In the first, you say to have assumed that fascists know each other, but you're not 100% sure. In the second post, you're so sure that fascists know each other, so you accuse someone else of lying about it. That makes no sense.

the gain is town cred.
Also it is a potential scenario if it was correct what I assumed the whole game

To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it
kita/byj kita has a way bigger filter and talked a lot about other things too, his oneliner was: I don't think X is hitler
byj talked in his small filter a lot about hitler and had this random post I think X is scum.because he knows who hitler is
In both cases there is a difference
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 11:18 GMT
#792
I will read throgh both rels and kita now, to see which one I think is townier.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2018 11:36 GMT
#793
On November 08 2018 20:17 happykrogan wrote:
To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it

Rels this is 100% correct. He wasnt necessarily doing what you suggested, because this makes perfect sense and is even way more likely than what you said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2018 11:56 GMT
#794
On November 08 2018 20:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 20:17 happykrogan wrote:
To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it

Rels this is 100% correct. He wasnt necessarily doing what you suggested, because this makes perfect sense and is even way more likely than what you said.

Here is what i have a hard time believing Rels.

If you have a narrative (which in itself isnt necessarily scummy) that treating players differently when they had the same thought (which isnt even what happened there -- but thats another thing), then regarding the prplhz chancellor election, why is it a scumtell for krpgan when what he did was all +1'ing me? Like literally, i started questioning prplhz for his jesitative stance, krogan made almoat the same posts i did, i eventually decided to vote yes, krogan followed me.

Why is this different? It doesnt matter that you have a townread on me from different things, but you know or think a townie -- aka me -- did that, krogan should never get "scum credit" from that if you actually believe in what you say about how krogan treated you/byj.
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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 12:34 GMT
#795
On November 08 2018 13:55 Rels wrote:
going to sleep. Grack, Conversion, byj, could you say that you will vote YES to a Grack / Rels team if kita / Grack doesn't pass ? So rayn is happy

I know this is not adressed to me, but if kita/grack doesn't go through I would vote yes to a Rels/Grack Team, because I think the plan is good.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 12:40 GMT
#796
And I might be completely blind, but I still haven't found why Rels did scumread kita in the first place. (The only thing I found that he said before he started with his team speculations, is the prplhz-kita connection, which doesn't make sense, if he think's prplhz is hitler)

He mentioned that he scumread kita a few times though, before he started with his team.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 13:14 GMT
#797
After reading both filters one time, I am kind of neutral on both.
So I'll try to do it again later today.
Kita hasn't really anything that screams either town or scum.
The way rels thinks he has found a scumteam is rather towny (because he built it up from the beginning with adding more pieces - even though I still don't really know what his problem with kita was, he seems to already have had one), but he has a few arguments against me that aren't that great.
Also this one I didn't mention yet:
On November 07 2018 13:39 Rels wrote:
yeah having finished reasing byj and happykrogan's filter, I think byj is town and happykrogan is scum. I expected the opposite to happen when I started reading them. p:

I quoted the more damning things above about happykrogan. But even more than that, he posts a lot, but most of his reads are very surface level. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of reads that are interesting. His "byj is Hitler" post above is one of the exception, as in it's a pretty interesting one, but as said above it doesn't match with his previous stance. His post about prp D2 is also a good read, but he ends up dismissing it and voting YES to the prp team for no apparent reason.

The rest is pretty bland. Attacking me because I made lazy oneliners and because my thought process didn't show in the posts I wrote, even though, I told him multiple times that it's actually a town tell for me. Attacking byj about his "plan". The stuff he attacks Conversion with is pretty weak too.

the bolded let it look like I attacked him for it, after he said it doesn't apply to him, what I didn't do (I just told Conversion, that I didn't scumread you for inactivity, but wasn't attacking you again)
I don't know if that makes him anything. Also now I think that the rayn blowing his thought out of proportion thing could be true, so right now I actually don't prefer kita over Rels, but I plan on looking into both again.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 13:16 GMT
#798
On November 08 2018 22:14 happykrogan wrote:
After reading both filters one time, I am kind of neutral on both.
So I'll try to do it again later today.
Kita hasn't really anything that screams either town or scum.
The way rels thinks he has found a scumteam is rather towny (because he built it up from the beginning with adding more pieces - even though I still don't really know what his problem with kita was, he seems to already have had one), but he has a few arguments against me that aren't that great.
Also this one I didn't mention yet:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:39 Rels wrote:
yeah having finished reasing byj and happykrogan's filter, I think byj is town and happykrogan is scum. I expected the opposite to happen when I started reading them. p:

I quoted the more damning things above about happykrogan. But even more than that, he posts a lot, but most of his reads are very surface level. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of reads that are interesting. His "byj is Hitler" post above is one of the exception, as in it's a pretty interesting one, but as said above it doesn't match with his previous stance. His post about prp D2 is also a good read, but he ends up dismissing it and voting YES to the prp team for no apparent reason.

The rest is pretty bland. Attacking me because I made lazy oneliners and because my thought process didn't show in the posts I wrote, even though, I told him multiple times that it's actually a town tell for me. Attacking byj about his "plan". The stuff he attacks Conversion with is pretty weak too.

the bolded let it look like I attacked him for it, after he said it doesn't apply to him, what I didn't do (I just told Conversion, that I didn't scumread you for inactivity, but wasn't attacking you again)
I don't know if that makes him anything. Also now I think that the rayn blowing his thought out of proportion thing could be true, so right now I actually don't prefer kita over Rels, but I plan on looking into both again.

To clarify, I don't have a townread on rels yet, because of some arguments against me, that I don't think are vaild.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
November 08 2018 13:17 GMT
#799
On November 08 2018 22:16 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 22:14 happykrogan wrote:
After reading both filters one time, I am kind of neutral on both.
So I'll try to do it again later today.
Kita hasn't really anything that screams either town or scum.
The way rels thinks he has found a scumteam is rather towny (because he built it up from the beginning with adding more pieces - even though I still don't really know what his problem with kita was, he seems to already have had one), but he has a few arguments against me that aren't that great.
Also this one I didn't mention yet:
On November 07 2018 13:39 Rels wrote:
yeah having finished reasing byj and happykrogan's filter, I think byj is town and happykrogan is scum. I expected the opposite to happen when I started reading them. p:

I quoted the more damning things above about happykrogan. But even more than that, he posts a lot, but most of his reads are very surface level. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of reads that are interesting. His "byj is Hitler" post above is one of the exception, as in it's a pretty interesting one, but as said above it doesn't match with his previous stance. His post about prp D2 is also a good read, but he ends up dismissing it and voting YES to the prp team for no apparent reason.

The rest is pretty bland. Attacking me because I made lazy oneliners and because my thought process didn't show in the posts I wrote, even though, I told him multiple times that it's actually a town tell for me. Attacking byj about his "plan". The stuff he attacks Conversion with is pretty weak too.

the bolded let it look like I attacked him for it, after he said it doesn't apply to him, what I didn't do (I just told Conversion, that I didn't scumread you for inactivity, but wasn't attacking you again)
I don't know if that makes him anything. Also now I think that the rayn blowing his thought out of proportion thing could be true, so right now I actually don't prefer kita over Rels, but I plan on looking into both again.

To clarify, I don't have a townread on rels yet, because of some arguments against me, that I don't think are vaild.

and because I don't know where his kita read originally came from
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 08 2018 13:26 GMT
#800
I Will play in around 8-10 hours
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