Newbie Student Mafia XXIX

On September 08 2018 00:17 Sergiovan wrote:
And Time is finally on my side, I get to be here for a bit.

I don’t know anyone particularly well so if any of you can add meta reads to what I’m seeing I would appreciate the help. My meta knowledge is, at best, deeply outdated.

I believe that Koshi is the best lynch of the people who have posted this far. His most recent post shows that he is aware of how he appears and is nervous about it and is trying to fit in to the town atmosphere.

Kaley seems most town to me, I like his image post. It shows a carefree mindset which I believe is hard to fake as scum.

Koshi, Vivax and Kaley - the three of you have all posted in the past hour so I assume you are still here. Koshi please respond to my Kaley read. Kaley please respond to my Koshi read. Vivax please respond to both.

On September 08 2018 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's exactly why i said dumb reasoning.

On September 08 2018 16:16 Vivax wrote:
I really don't like how I was talked into making my kaley read appear stronger than it was. It was a crappy feels-read coupled with the rayn vote which I would describe as ballsy. That said, it makes me feel entrapped that everyone is riding this train of thought that I'm mafia for that read after making me talk so much about it which really isn't something that felt that important to me.

That said, I was expecting more fleshed out "raps" afterwards or at least that kaley would start posting normally, and the latest one isn't very informative as Qatol points out above. So I don't see a reason to still mantain that read. I'll be waiting for more content before scumreading anyone however.

On September 08 2018 01:31 Vivax wrote:
I think Sergio is overanalyzing early game stuff, but not in a necessarily scummy way, he may just be overeager townie. That makes me unable to agree with him on his points. I believe he shouldn't give so much weight to what Koshi did so far.

I think kaley is town. Btw I never was able to like rap/hip-hop. Hard for me to explain this read, mostly gut and that he's going after rayn of all people.

Not a big fan of a Qatols version as a summary is the best that anyone could have delivered on early game banter and I see the opportunity for mafia here to jump on a kaley lynch after rayn (if town) said he would p-lynch for the rap. I'll ultimately refrain from scumreading Qatol here as pushing arguments early here is a good thing for town and not necessary for mafia, but I don't agree with them.

On September 08 2018 13:45 Sergiovan wrote:
Koshi is sooooo scummy, am I totally pants-on-head retarded? I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can not be voting him right now, he says in post #99 that he has three town reads but he doesn’t ever reveal them, he isn’t contributing while spamming and pretending to have reads. Koshi = Scum.

Vivax in post #119 says he didn’t read Kayly’s post from which he read her as town. Highly suspicious if Kaley = town that Vivax = scum. Vivax has made a town read based on something he didn’t even read. If that ‘read’ is correct it seems like it comes from alignment knowledge.

I see that Kelsier has seen the same things in that post as I have. That makes Kelsier relatively townie irrespective of the alignments of Vivax and Kaley.

Holyflare appears either pants-on-head-useless or mafia. Over 24 hours into the game and he appears just to place an awful vote with literally no reason. Hf: do you genuinely believe that Kaley is scum, if so why?

People who know holyflare: is this behavior possible from a town HF? That is, is he bad enough to do nothing day one besides avoid a modkill but also be town aligned.

Rayn: calm down, no matter how you feel about Kaley’s RP your behavior is negatively effecting the town atmosphere. If you are town think about it and get better. If you are scum listen to me and do that right thing anyway so I don’t have to read your shit stirring before I lynch you.

If you are still present I would like to discuss Kaley and Koshi. Kaley is posting relatively coherently and has some reads in the thread which seem to indicate that she is involved in the thread as it progresses. Koshi is posting useless and meaningless trash. Explain your reads on both of them to me.

On September 08 2018 13:45 Sergiovan wrote:
Koshi is sooooo scummy, am I totally pants-on-head retarded? I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can not be voting him right now, he says in post #99 that he has three town reads but he doesn’t ever reveal them, he isn’t contributing while spamming and pretending to have reads. Koshi = Scum.

Vivax in post #119 says he didn’t read Kayly’s post from which he read her as town. Highly suspicious if Kaley = town that Vivax = scum. Vivax has made a town read based on something he didn’t even read. If that ‘read’ is correct it seems like it comes from alignment knowledge.

I see that Kelsier has seen the same things in that post as I have. That makes Kelsier relatively townie irrespective of the alignments of Vivax and Kaley.

Holyflare appears either pants-on-head-useless or mafia. Over 24 hours into the game and he appears just to place an awful vote with literally no reason. Hf: do you genuinely believe that Kaley is scum, if so why?

People who know holyflare: is this behavior possible from a town HF? That is, is he bad enough to do nothing day one besides avoid a modkill but also be town aligned.

Rayn: calm down, no matter how you feel about Kaley’s RP your behavior is negatively effecting the town atmosphere. If you are town think about it and get better. If you are scum listen to me and do that right thing anyway so I don’t have to read your shit stirring before I lynch you.

If you are still present I would like to discuss Kaley and Koshi. Kaley is posting relatively coherently and has some reads in the thread which seem to indicate that she is involved in the thread as it progresses. Koshi is posting useless and meaningless trash. Explain your reads on both of them to me.

On September 08 2018 03:15 KelsierSC wrote:
I have a question for rayn as to why koshi is town and vice versa

On September 08 2018 13:49 Sergiovan wrote:
1) pants-on-head-useless 2) scum 3) townie who thinks they are making some slick play.

On September 09 2018 19:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi has your stance on Vivax changed after whole D1?

On September 10 2018 03:46 Qatol wrote:
Okay, hopefully everything is explained and we can move on to useful conversation, though I do still want to know how it could happen that Holyflare didn't read a portion of my post that he took the time to bold.

I see another post I'd like to discuss.

Koshi, please explain your logic around when the voting ended. I understand you have a scum read on HolyFlare and a town read on Sergio. This post makes it seem like you were also okay with the Kaley lynch. My question is why did you leave your vote where you did? It was pretty obvious at the time that HolyFlare was unlikely to be the lynch. You seem to acknowledge that yourself. So why leave your vote on HolyFlare, making a last second vote switch from Kaley to someone you don't want to see lynched, such as Sergio, more likely?