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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 30 2018 17:28 Calix wrote: ssshhhsssss.And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am? Do not like. im considering you could be town. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
which is ~50% of the vote. For me, the lynch which gives us the most INFO and resolutions is calix vs shockeey. Without this, i think we will still be at each others necks tomorrow. Without the TT modkill i was 100% calix.. now im not so sure shockee filter is pretty much tunnel vision. 1 iffy town read on vivax, and the rest is blinkers non-stop and using others cases as a push. ##Unvote | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
I’m talking to HF. I don’t like how he backed down on his “strong” town reads on TT and I when it was convenient. This was the guy who said TT and I were well townie at EOD and suddenly he changed his mind? Despite one of his town reads being proven correct already??? Also I think he should know better than to suspect me. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On June 30 2018 17:32 Mocsta wrote: like, im genuinely concerned we could be in LYLO tomorrow and a shit fest with prob-town but unknown position slenderman, the afk Koshi, and "keeps catching up" shockee. which is ~50% of the vote. For me, the lynch which gives us the most INFO and resolutions is calix vs shockeey. Without this, i think we will still be at each others necks tomorrow. Without the TT modkill i was 100% calix.. now im not so sure shockee filter is pretty much tunnel vision. 1 iffy town read on vivax, and the rest is blinkers non-stop and using others cases as a push. ##Unvote Did you not make lots of posts where you called a bunch of ShoCkeyy posts townie? Can you walk me through how your thoughts have changed since the last filter dive and now? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 30 2018 17:38 Calix wrote: yeah im ashamed to sayDid you not make lots of posts where you called a bunch of ShoCkeyy posts townie? Can you walk me through how your thoughts have changed since the last filter dive and now? But it was all associayion reads on tt being mafia. So i got horny on this guy being on point. Now tt is town. His filter is reduced to never evaluating anything outside that. Rubbish for halfway through day2 Thats the phone tldr I also never liked him extending his calix case by referencing me plus rayn. When noone liked my case | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
Because I still see no reason to think Conversion’s TT progression is townie when ShoCkeyy was at risk of dying. Or that his D2 posts are good. He did not even explain why he changed his mind about the TT unlynchable thing which is where most of my case stems from, he just attacked me because nobody was taking my case seriously. It is not townie to me. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
And im never available for the 8hrs before lynch Can you please help me out and link the relevant posts you want me to read through | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 29 2018 17:34 Calix wrote: Conversion. I am now convinced this guy is scum with ShoCkeyy and you can see this through how his TT read progresses. Keep in mind that, from Conversion's POV, TT was the only viable alternative to ShoCkeyy for most of EOD because Conversion had stated a "Vivax/ Calix are probably not mafia" read on me previously. Starts here when, after saying he needs to reread TT, says that he 'doesn't see town motivation' in softing that you're unlynchable. I find the highlighted part...very questionable. It reads like he's using reasoning he knows he's used in the past to scum-read TT without actually believing in it. Note the bolded part. He says that TT's 'unlynchable' thing isn't actually scummy after giving it some thought and TT isn't in his list of targets. (as a side note, he 'actively questions' Vivax/ Calix believers but thinks rayn is LIKE RLY TOWNIE. Vivax calls him out here but Conversion seems to misinterpret what Vivax was saying entirely and I'm not sure whether Conversion ever actually responded to this point) He goes on to rhetorically asks whether ShoCkeyy's dumb tell is fake. (implies ShoCkeyy is mafia otherwise why would you ever say this?) and soft-defends ShoCkeyy using meta (says he always finds ShoCkeyy makes posts that are 'never town'). It's not clear what his ShoCkeyy read is since he never makes it explicit. Then THIS happens: This 'case' is atrocious. Conversion said earlier that he changed his mind on the 'unlynchable' part because he didn't think mafia would do that on D1. But WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER, he uses it as a reason to scum-read TT again!!! This looks like he's flinging shit against TT. Bonus points for defending ShoCkeyy and jumping on one of the counterwagons to him for horrible reasoning. Double bonus points because, when he uses that meta to defend ShoCkeyy, I showed him why that didn't make ShoCkeyy town this game. And he brushed it off because "I don't like comparing playstyles too much" (why would you use it as a reason for me to not think he's mafia then?) Triple bonus points because he somehow found TT not voting to save himself scummy??? Nowhere in these posts does he explain how TT's dumb martyring actually helps mafia. Probably because the only scenario where that would work is if TT/ ShoCkeyy is a scum team and then people might ask things like "why the fuck were you dithering with a ShoCkeyy vote?" and "why did you wait until it was too late to vote for ShoCkeyy?" Now I did make a post on Conversion's EOD before. But I only looked at a small part of his filter. When I looked from page 1 like I did now, his EOD looks way worse because of that TT progression. Conversion/ ShoCkeyy/ ??? FTW I raise perfectly valid points here that Conversion could have easily clarified. Let me list them: 1. Vivax made a good point about why Conversion wasn't skeptical of rayn despite rayn doing things Conversion said he would be skeptical of and Conversion pretended to misunderstand Vivax to get out of answering the question. Conversion has ignored this point on two occasions now! 2. Doesn't explain his thought process on ShoCkeyy despite his ShoCkeyy read being really unclear and open to a lot of interpretation. 3. Doesn't explain why TT's 'unlynchable' thing suddenly became a scum tell again. 4. Doesn't explain how TT's martyring comes from mafia. So many points he could have responded to but he does this instead: On June 29 2018 22:13 Conversion wrote: wow I might have to sheep rayn after that post from Calix. you seriously tried hard to paint me as scum after town reading me all game? wtf. and me being mafia with Shockeyy makes no sense? Independently assessing my filter is one thig, but trying to link me and shockeyy and then logically saying I can be mafia if shockeyy flips town means you should be gunning for my lynch first and then figuring out if a town!shock town!conversion world exists. On June 29 2018 23:35 Conversion wrote: Last point. The thing is I can maybe see town!Calix casing me, but I don't see the logic behind town!Calix suddenly having a eureka moment and saying Shockeyy+Conversion is the team? It just seems like a cheap mafia shot to try and keep the Shockeyy momentum and if he flips town, which he most likely will, to keep another easier mislynch open that isn't her mafia team. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 30 2018 18:06 Calix wrote: And Mocsta, how have you not realised that you can't unvote without having a new target to vote? lol Doesnt it jusr go back to me? | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
No, lol. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Without that. I need to dive conversion to see what ither posts occured. Like. J didnt interpret him to use the unlyncahble thing tk get back on tt It read to me like he was responding to someone I have noted to check though tmwhether both conversion and holyflare stated shcokeey was town after the d1 flip. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I dint find it a bad case but i do find it association based Will go through filter soon | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Or rather, what he hasn't done ^^ On June 29 2018 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait what the fuck... If Calix and TT are both town here Shockeyy can actually be mafia. But why? Don't you think ShoCKeyy "dumb-telled" himself town? Why do you need me to get my arse mislynched to change your mind?! While I'm on the matter, I saw your post about ShoCkeyy's dumb-tell. Let me tell you why I think he faked it. Because ShoCkeyy has played games on here before. He has played 13P games before. Conversion linked me to a 13P game he was in where mafia KPN was 1. So I ask you this. Why the fuck does he conclude that mafia KPN is 3 in this 13P? How is that even remotely balanced with only 1-2 blues? In what world does he look at the role PMs and uncritically accept that the KPN is 3 and not wonder whether he's wrong or something? It's the acceptance of such an obviously broken setup that I don't buy. So he probably faked it to look "too bad to be scummy". If there has EVER been a game where mafia KPN was 3 in a 13P and ShoCkeyy was in that game, I will immediately retract my scum-read on ShoCkeyy and call him town for the rest of the game. But I am confident this is not the case. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On June 30 2018 06:02 ShoCkeyy wrote: Edit: Until I see a "modkill" post on TT, I'm not going to believe the "role pm". Idk why I put don't lol... This is the best post in the game, hahaha. Some guy posts their role PM (something which will get the person mod-killed since it's against the rules) and his response is to "not believe it" instead of realising his heavily-flawed scum-team theory is dead in the water? Such a legitimate and townie reaction to an unexpected event, amirite. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 28 2018 23:44 Conversion wrote: I hope Belgium gives England a good thrashing today I think you are lock town. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
If you believe the medic claim. That line of reasoning is silly Btw i think rayn is vig that held shot and reaction fished hf Meh. Irrelevant | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 30 2018 17:28 Calix wrote: And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am? Do not like. Dunno really. Thread sentiment. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Actually, no, this isn't right. It's because of my earlier post cake linked about you defending tt when he wasn't even up for lynch. | ||
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