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Calix
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On June 26 2018 22:50 Holyflare wrote: Also what new information on tt should I have when he's posted nothing new? I was giving examples of stuff you do when talking about reads in general. I'm saying that since you haven't done too much with the TT read aside from explain it, talk about something else ^^ | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 22:53 Holyflare wrote: I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person. You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out. How would I know CopCake is 'confusing'? I have no knowledge of her play. With this in mind, I can't see how you concluded what you did. Especially the part about me caring how I look. | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote: if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^ | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 23:26 Conversion wrote: We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer. Wouldn't saying 'no mafia would ever do X' be saying that someone is townie for doing X since no mafia would do it and there are only two alignments? I'm not sure why people are making a distinction between "no mafia would do X" and "someone is townie for doing X" since they're saying the same thing. A lot of people are disagreeing with me on this so I am probably missing something obvious here xD | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 23:48 CopCake wrote: I dont think I have been confusing at all this game so quit that bullshit to have a null read on me HF. If I was so confusing people like TT or Mocca wouldnt have followed my process of thinking. I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan) Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did. Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative. Now I am gonna post for ##Calix Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case. What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭 I wasn't even referring to the 'seer' stuff with my comments on you. But I'm going to stop talking about that after this post because it's not really helping anything. The one that I bolded and highlighted in red in my initial case (the one we've just been discussing) because I thought it didn't make sense. Scum-reading me for waking up, skimming the thread, filter-diving you and posting a case is weak. That's kinda just how I roll when it comes to playing the game ^^ In other news, I've been mulling things over and I'm going back to the drawing board with my scum-reads because I'm pretty sure I have fucked up royally somewhere. Because I don't think your rayn interactions and discussions around each other make a lot of sense as mafia/ mafia. I might read rayn's filter later when I'm not in OMGUS-mode as much. Now if you don't mind me, I'm going back to popping in the thread every so often, not really doing anything to get new scum-reads, and waiting for things to happen because fuck being proactive  | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:10 Holyflare wrote: So your scum read is just.... Rayn? No, I am throwing them all out. I am just acknowledging that I can't properly re-evaluate rayn's posting right now because I'm still OMGUSing a bit. So it'll have to be done later. Since my vote is on CopCake purely because one cannot unvote, I might sheep you onto Vivax. | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:11 Holyflare wrote: And the only reason cop isn't mafia is because rayn/copcake doesn't make sense together??? No. I didn't hate some of CopCake's later posts and her tone's gotten better. | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:14 Mocsta wrote: yes. That one game. I was confirmed town and you refused to change ya view kn the world It stuck with me lol I will filter dive you on d2 as you arent in my d1 pool Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't that Grackaroni in the QT chat with DF and TT? Mocsta wasn't even in that game. | ||
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Calix
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The posts where she was engaging with me, asking me questions, not coming at me with her mind already made up, etc. In retrospect, I think she wasn't trying to smear me or push an agenda as much as get answers. Therefore less likely to be mafia. And I liked her last post (#284 as of writing this) where she defends herself but still 'pushes' back and isn't meek. This is one of those 'fee-fee' reads which are hard to convince others with but I hope you see where I'm coming from if nothing else ^^ | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:35 Tictock wrote: Not a fan of Calix's case on Cake. Partially kus I think Cake is almost lock town for me. Her points feel more nitpickey than insightful though, like she isn't sure how or what to address in the game. Her first point is weak as both Town and Mafia can ask weak questions, and I disagree that Cake hasn't done anything to advance the game. She has clearly given her own opinions and seems to be openly weighing in on things. I think I need Calix to give better examples of what she means by Cake making excuses for others kus I don't know what she is referring too. The pointing out inactives stuff is weak as well. I've seen both mafia and town do this so it is not very AI. The point would be stronger if that was ALL cake had posted, but it is far from the only thought Cake has presented so I find this pretty underwhelming. Kinda disappointed, I think Calix likely rolled mafia this game and is struggling with her time constraints. Was hoping to play with her as town. Well you are pretty much the only person who has actually discussed the case (aside from HF calling it mediocre) so we can like, talk about it. I think CopCake is doing stuff now but at the time, I got the vibe she was blending in and throwing out town-reads and not really doing much. By excuses, I meant 'rationalising away other people's actions as coming from town' which I didn't like because it looked like she already knew they were being genuine. I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___- | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote: Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too. I'd agree on calix being town here. ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Jeans_pocket_back.jpg/1200px-Jeans_pocket_back.jpg) You're one of the few people who thinks I'm town. And you think my case is sheepable when nobody else does. So what parts of the case did you find good exactly? | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 01:09 Vivax wrote: the end of the post jk the talking about irrelevant things and tmi thingies Ha. Do you think CopCake's recent posts have been scummy and if so, why? Because some of them mitigate my earlier points IMO. | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Calix and Vivax are like fucking super obvious mafia lol.  ##vote Calix If there's one thing more annoying than a rayn, it's a rayn who doesn't have the decency to be correct in his accusations ^^ | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: And you accept it with a smile while like an hour ago i was mafia. Yes, i believe that. Yeah I don't care that much aside from being mildly amused. I already told you I'm not doing anything in the game right now aside from hanging around when I'm not busy. Probably will continue to do this until the evening. | ||
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But Conversion is probably town so it's all good. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote: I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play. Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose. Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over I think you make a decent point with Reg. I was town-reading that slot because we had similar-ish reads at around the same time and they're producing a lot of content. But I can also see your argument where they don't say much that's scummy in isolation but you also can't say what they're trying to accomplish this game. It's not something I want to bet a D1 lynch on though. I'm a bit skeptical about how I'm reading people because (now I've started to actually filter people and play the game) there's nothing that scummy about most of the active players and I kinda doubt that ALL the mafia are inactive. On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote: also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way Why? | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote: Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why? I need two on each category. I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 02:30 CopCake wrote: But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O No, I was calling you mafia for that within the context of when you posted about the inactives while a bunch of other shit was going down. Meanwhile I'm talking about inactives because few of the active people look like good D1 lynch candidates. Okay yeah, I could #yolo vote Regfan or HF but that would be dumb since they'll actually play and respond to accusations and the like. Also I'm going to ask you why you think HF is townish now. You were scum-reading him, then you said you felt better about him but you never really explained why or what posts made you conclude that. | ||
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Calix
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On June 27 2018 02:45 Vivax wrote: I'll go with mocsta/cop/tbd for now. Mocsta cause his reaction to HF countering him felt a lot like kneejerk and cause of the closet psychologist stuff. Cop for reasons said. I don't get how Mocsta's bizarre ramblings about personality types are AI at all. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:50 Vivax wrote: How do they fit in a game where you have to find people pretending to be something they aren't? If someone goes off topic like that and it doesn't look like it's done for amusement but instead sounding like a smartass in a context where they should be doing something else, then it's safe to assume they just don't have the thoughts that accompany their scumhunting process which is what mafia lacks. Instead of assuming that Mocsta 'just doesn't have the thoughts that accompany their scumhunting process' can you show us evidence that Mocsta is doing this as part of mafia agenda as opposed to him being a bit of a lunatic? lol Also I'm going to ask why you haven't reacted at all to my change from voting CopCake to voting you. I feel like that's something that you should care about. | ||
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