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On June 30 2018 02:58 Tictock wrote: Bye TL Mafia, it was fun when I started, last 2 games I have literally hated myself for signing up. Sorry to the small group of people who don't deserve this shit. I'm not even gonna BM you, TT, because I relate to this. This game is crazy. I read the last 8-9 pages and you are all on the wrong track and show no signs of correcting yourselves. TT and HF and I are all really townie and yet half the game thinks we're a mafia team? Mocsta isn't even doing anything aside from agreeing with thread sentiment at every chance he gets. I see zero initiative from this guy. Conversion is not even pretending to solve the game, just wants HF dead for voting Boxerfred and OMGUSes me after I case him. And I've talked about ShoCkeyy 58403967 times at this point. I just don't see the point of putting in more time to play. I have 11 pages of filter already. My alignment is incredibly obvious at this point and if you guys can't see that, it's on you. | ||
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On June 29 2018 23:35 Conversion wrote: Last point. The thing is I can maybe see town!Calix casing me, but I don't see the logic behind town!Calix suddenly having a eureka moment and saying Shockeyy+Conversion is the team? It just seems like a cheap mafia shot to try and keep the Shockeyy momentum and if he flips town, which he most likely will, to keep another easier mislynch open that isn't her mafia team. I'll lynch you first if that'll make you happier. Half the game thinks I'm bussing you for some fucking reason so maybe that's a scum read of mine that people will actually want to kill. ##vote Conversion | ||
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On June 30 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote: yeah nah I'm going to have you die first Alright. You got lucky that you rolled scum in a game where people are having more mental breakdowns than you've accomplished in your entire mafia career. | ||
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On June 30 2018 07:30 Conversion wrote: I didn't roll scum, actually. Your reasons for scumreading are terrible. You literally townread everyone and instead of critically thinking that Shockeyy + Conversion team is absolutely stupid, you read it as if you having some sort of enlightening moment. Your post to TT is so dumb. "Oh yeah everyone is playing stupid so you're totally allowed to kill yourself" lol. Like seriously? Your reasoning right now is rayn is claimed doc town, HF is town, TT is town, you have AFKer Koshi and Slender who's probably town, so you think that Conversion/Shockeyy/Cop, the only three remaining, are the mafia team. Your depth of thinking is terrible and you're either just reaching to try and find sense, or you're just mafia throwing shit and defending confirmed townies to give yourself towncred, and then flipping 180s to the "unsure" townies to gut them against each other. I don't give a shit about playing a game where people sign up, AFK, barely play, modkill themselves off one of the least toxic games I have witnessed. Yes, seriously. He was one of the few people I actually LIKED playing with this game and I'm disappointed I can't play with him anymore. And that I have to deal with the rest of the thread. I think that team makes a lot of sense and insulting me won't change my mind. If I'm so horribly wrong then why not try and correct me? You said I could just be 'misguided town' after all ^^ Rayn self-resolves, yes. I never said anything about Slender being 'probably town'. I said Koshi was townie for agreeing with me at EOD because I'm vain. You're implying I defended TT at EOD1 as if I would know he would mod-kill himself, lol. I don't think CopCake is mafia. You mean Mocsta. Not that I'm 100% convinced there by any stretch. I just find his reads to be extremely malleable whenever someone comes up with something 'better' and he looks worse the more he does it. | ||
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On June 30 2018 07:40 Mocsta wrote: Lol calix Malleable if someone comes up ejth someyhing better is called lack of ego And its town as fuck Whatever you say, Mocsheep. | ||
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On June 30 2018 07:43 Conversion wrote: Dude has been emo-ing for 24+ hours now, I'm surprised he just didn't modkill himself earlier. That's why I backed the pressure off him, but whatever. This game is so dumb that I run into people with more mental fortitude playing a toxic ass game like DotA. My head right now is that there is at least one Mafia in this boxerfred nonsense. I'm thinking HF for even initiating it to begin with because the Light of God touched his brain 4 hours before EoD whatever and people followed, which is why I want him dead. If the rest of the shenanigan wagon is pure, that means the team is HF +2. Mocsta has been doing nothing after he tried to catch up to 20 pages, and his reasoning for boxerfred switch was trash. You and Vivax may be the only two that have an actual reason to do so, and I'm not quite entirely convinced you did it 100% just to save Tictock either. That makes Hf/Mocsta/Calix my pool since Vivax is dead. Then we have everyone else. Rayn is town unless someone is going to counterclaim him for whatever reason. Slendy/Me/Copcake/Koshi. Koshi's on vacation or whatever, but mafia!Koshi doesn't play unless he's threatened. He tends to just seep into the background and have people ignore him. I honestly think Cop is town, and I know I'm town because I read my PM and I'm not illiterate That leaves Hf/Mocsta/Calix/Koshi being my pool, and if you flip town whatever. I don't really want to waste my time trying to figure a game out when two people want to be babies and modkill themselves out when the pressure isn't even heavy and three people don't even play the game and forget they're even playing. Waste of my time. Then stop playing if this game is such a huge waste of your time instead of telling us about it. I'm also going to throw up the possibility of Koshi/ Slenderman being two of the mafia. That might explain why people are having such a hard time finding scum-reads and keep pushing obvious townies instead. Because there's only one mafia to be found and since their scum-buddies aren't under any pressure, they can say whatever the fuck they want. I know people will say "lol Calix is focusing on inactives so she doesn't get lynched" but it's actually a valid world that people should consider at the very least. Well, the part about "town eating itself alive" anyway. Obviously it's not a world I 100% believe in (since I'm voting for you and think you/ ShoCkeyy/ Mocsta are scummy) but it's something I've been considering. You think this idea holds any water? | ||
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Thread sentiment is so against me that I don't think anything I say will be taken seriously so I guess I can say whatever I want. Nobody's going to read my filter when I flip town. Nobody's going to change their approach or wonder if they're the reason so many people have tilted themselves off the earth. I'm only posting right now because it's a distraction (my day at work was monumentally awful) but I already fought so hard on Day 1. I just don't care to repeat that. I don't have the time even if I wanted to. I might pop in once or twice in the morning but then I am completely AFK until...an hour or so before EOD? I think you're right, Conversion. I'm not talking my way out of this one. | ||
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On June 30 2018 08:45 CopCake wrote: Everyone noticed that the vote count happened and no mod said TT would be modkilled? Like with Regfan? They literally said TT was modkilled. | ||
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In other words, if you people are serious about lynching me, you're going straight into Day 3 triple LYLO. My advice to you, if you are town and think I am mafia, is to think really long and hard about worlds where I am town and start doing that NOW. Because that is what I am. Don't take the piss. Don't mock me and say "100% mafia" and say your reads are too good to revisit before flips. Just do it. You'll need all the time you can get with that "Calix is town" information because once you fuck up with me, you'll never get that opportunity again. | ||
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And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am? Do not like. | ||
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I’m talking to HF. I don’t like how he backed down on his “strong” town reads on TT and I when it was convenient. This was the guy who said TT and I were well townie at EOD and suddenly he changed his mind? Despite one of his town reads being proven correct already??? Also I think he should know better than to suspect me. | ||
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On June 30 2018 17:32 Mocsta wrote: like, im genuinely concerned we could be in LYLO tomorrow and a shit fest with prob-town but unknown position slenderman, the afk Koshi, and "keeps catching up" shockee. which is ~50% of the vote. For me, the lynch which gives us the most INFO and resolutions is calix vs shockeey. Without this, i think we will still be at each others necks tomorrow. Without the TT modkill i was 100% calix.. now im not so sure shockee filter is pretty much tunnel vision. 1 iffy town read on vivax, and the rest is blinkers non-stop and using others cases as a push. ##Unvote Did you not make lots of posts where you called a bunch of ShoCkeyy posts townie? Can you walk me through how your thoughts have changed since the last filter dive and now? | ||
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Because I still see no reason to think Conversion’s TT progression is townie when ShoCkeyy was at risk of dying. Or that his D2 posts are good. He did not even explain why he changed his mind about the TT unlynchable thing which is where most of my case stems from, he just attacked me because nobody was taking my case seriously. It is not townie to me. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 29 2018 17:34 Calix wrote: Conversion. I am now convinced this guy is scum with ShoCkeyy and you can see this through how his TT read progresses. Keep in mind that, from Conversion's POV, TT was the only viable alternative to ShoCkeyy for most of EOD because Conversion had stated a "Vivax/ Calix are probably not mafia" read on me previously. Starts here when, after saying he needs to reread TT, says that he 'doesn't see town motivation' in softing that you're unlynchable. I find the highlighted part...very questionable. It reads like he's using reasoning he knows he's used in the past to scum-read TT without actually believing in it. Note the bolded part. He says that TT's 'unlynchable' thing isn't actually scummy after giving it some thought and TT isn't in his list of targets. (as a side note, he 'actively questions' Vivax/ Calix believers but thinks rayn is LIKE RLY TOWNIE. Vivax calls him out here but Conversion seems to misinterpret what Vivax was saying entirely and I'm not sure whether Conversion ever actually responded to this point) He goes on to rhetorically asks whether ShoCkeyy's dumb tell is fake. (implies ShoCkeyy is mafia otherwise why would you ever say this?) and soft-defends ShoCkeyy using meta (says he always finds ShoCkeyy makes posts that are 'never town'). It's not clear what his ShoCkeyy read is since he never makes it explicit. Then THIS happens: This 'case' is atrocious. Conversion said earlier that he changed his mind on the 'unlynchable' part because he didn't think mafia would do that on D1. But WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER, he uses it as a reason to scum-read TT again!!! This looks like he's flinging shit against TT. Bonus points for defending ShoCkeyy and jumping on one of the counterwagons to him for horrible reasoning. Double bonus points because, when he uses that meta to defend ShoCkeyy, I showed him why that didn't make ShoCkeyy town this game. And he brushed it off because "I don't like comparing playstyles too much" (why would you use it as a reason for me to not think he's mafia then?) Triple bonus points because he somehow found TT not voting to save himself scummy??? Nowhere in these posts does he explain how TT's dumb martyring actually helps mafia. Probably because the only scenario where that would work is if TT/ ShoCkeyy is a scum team and then people might ask things like "why the fuck were you dithering with a ShoCkeyy vote?" and "why did you wait until it was too late to vote for ShoCkeyy?" Now I did make a post on Conversion's EOD before. But I only looked at a small part of his filter. When I looked from page 1 like I did now, his EOD looks way worse because of that TT progression. Conversion/ ShoCkeyy/ ??? FTW I raise perfectly valid points here that Conversion could have easily clarified. Let me list them: 1. Vivax made a good point about why Conversion wasn't skeptical of rayn despite rayn doing things Conversion said he would be skeptical of and Conversion pretended to misunderstand Vivax to get out of answering the question. Conversion has ignored this point on two occasions now! 2. Doesn't explain his thought process on ShoCkeyy despite his ShoCkeyy read being really unclear and open to a lot of interpretation. 3. Doesn't explain why TT's 'unlynchable' thing suddenly became a scum tell again. 4. Doesn't explain how TT's martyring comes from mafia. So many points he could have responded to but he does this instead: On June 29 2018 22:13 Conversion wrote: wow I might have to sheep rayn after that post from Calix. you seriously tried hard to paint me as scum after town reading me all game? wtf. and me being mafia with Shockeyy makes no sense? Independently assessing my filter is one thig, but trying to link me and shockeyy and then logically saying I can be mafia if shockeyy flips town means you should be gunning for my lynch first and then figuring out if a town!shock town!conversion world exists. On June 29 2018 23:35 Conversion wrote: Last point. The thing is I can maybe see town!Calix casing me, but I don't see the logic behind town!Calix suddenly having a eureka moment and saying Shockeyy+Conversion is the team? It just seems like a cheap mafia shot to try and keep the Shockeyy momentum and if he flips town, which he most likely will, to keep another easier mislynch open that isn't her mafia team. | ||
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No, lol. | ||
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Or rather, what he hasn't done ^^ On June 29 2018 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait what the fuck... If Calix and TT are both town here Shockeyy can actually be mafia. But why? Don't you think ShoCKeyy "dumb-telled" himself town? Why do you need me to get my arse mislynched to change your mind?! While I'm on the matter, I saw your post about ShoCkeyy's dumb-tell. Let me tell you why I think he faked it. Because ShoCkeyy has played games on here before. He has played 13P games before. Conversion linked me to a 13P game he was in where mafia KPN was 1. So I ask you this. Why the fuck does he conclude that mafia KPN is 3 in this 13P? How is that even remotely balanced with only 1-2 blues? In what world does he look at the role PMs and uncritically accept that the KPN is 3 and not wonder whether he's wrong or something? It's the acceptance of such an obviously broken setup that I don't buy. So he probably faked it to look "too bad to be scummy". If there has EVER been a game where mafia KPN was 3 in a 13P and ShoCkeyy was in that game, I will immediately retract my scum-read on ShoCkeyy and call him town for the rest of the game. But I am confident this is not the case. | ||
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On June 30 2018 06:02 ShoCkeyy wrote: Edit: Until I see a "modkill" post on TT, I'm not going to believe the "role pm". Idk why I put don't lol... This is the best post in the game, hahaha. Some guy posts their role PM (something which will get the person mod-killed since it's against the rules) and his response is to "not believe it" instead of realising his heavily-flawed scum-team theory is dead in the water? Such a legitimate and townie reaction to an unexpected event, amirite. | ||
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On June 30 2018 19:13 Mocsta wrote: #1815 If you believe the medic claim. That line of reasoning is silly Btw i think rayn is vig that held shot and reaction fished hf Meh. Irrelevant ShoCkeyy's post was made well before rayn claimed Medic. | ||
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