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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 11:48 GMT
#1198
Still think DF and HF are town.

DF could have voted Koshi for free D1. He said he scumread him, but didn't vote him. D1 would have had a Koshi lynch if DF did that. Regardless of his current lack of post, that makes no sense if he's scum.

HF could have voted DF if he's scum. He's not the type of player that shies at looking bad if it wins lynching town over scum. The dude survives a red check in Himalays FFS. I don't see him hammering his own partner EOD1 when he could have saved him. This could make sense if DF is scum => but see above why I don't think it's the case.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 14:45 GMT
#1205
On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.

This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.

I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.

Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?

Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^


That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:
During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?

Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.


But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait

LS, you thought fuba was scum before????

From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).


But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.

Why ? What changed ?

My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.

Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 14:51 GMT
#1206
On June 01 2018 23:17 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 19:58 Rels wrote:
I don't know about that. Something bothered me about the timing of his appearance during the D2 lynch. Let me see if that makes sense or not.
Yeah that is it. He's AFK for the last half of the day and cmes back 20 minutes before deadline:

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 22:24 byj wrote:
I voted Fuba for now, I will be gone for the whole day tomorrow, so if you have any questions, ask them now please.

Unless you expect me to hope that somehow the lynch goes on a townie, which I town read, it makes no sense
Show nested quote +

So cocky for someone that didn't do anything to influence the lynch.

So what do you want me to do except say I think he is town and say the lynch looks scummy? Pay people money to change?

Yeah, if you replace "pay" by "don't AFK 24 hours and arguee with people to get your lynch"
I don't even remember why you were so sure Koshi was town. Something about the lynch D1 making him town I think ? I'll check that tonight
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:31 GMT
#1223
On June 02 2018 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm confused why you keep arguing this when DF wasn't there at the end of the day.
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On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.

You are mafia.
- No vote
- No interaction with thread about this post.

Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ...

You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not.

If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous.

But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do.

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 03:42 Rels wrote:
On May 28 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah.. what can I say. I am undecided on df atm.

Why isn't he almost conf town from your POV ... ? He could have lynched you but didn't.

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 03:53 Rels wrote:
'cause I don't agree. Koshi's posts didn't convince me. When he's town he gets very excited about something and it shows. The only time it happened this game was in his first spree of posts D1. Koshi not knowing what to do about DF when DF had the opportunity to hammer him is also weird.

What I'm saying is: KILL KOSHI. If he's town it should become obvious.
##Vote Koshi


'cause his last post of the day was about liking the case on Koshi. That's when he could have voted him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:31 GMT
#1224
On June 02 2018 01:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Sure.

I'm going to vote Rels for now but I'm still reading through things atm.
I don't think LS is the right lynch.

Why do you think LS is scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:32 GMT
#1225
town*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:37 GMT
#1227
On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up:
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.

This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.

I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.

Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?

Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^


That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:
During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?

Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.


But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait

LS, you thought fuba was scum before????

From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).


But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.

Why ? What changed ?

My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.

Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area.
Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two.

So you're talking about this:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.

On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting
##Unvote

In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that.
In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:43 GMT
#1231
On June 02 2018 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 02:37 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up:
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.

This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.

I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.

Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?

Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^


That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:
During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
[quote]
well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?

Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.


But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.

Why ? What changed ?

My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.

Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area.
Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two.

So you're talking about this:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.

On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting
##Unvote

In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that.
In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me.

Sorry to burst your bubble but yes because I know him well enough that if he was happy enough about that he would of been scum but I don't think I seen him genuinely angry as scum before so it was a good test just not very well executed >.<

I don't know why but I don't have this image of GB not being able to be angry as scum ... I could be wrong though, I'll check.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:46 GMT
#1232
ROFL
I'm checking the last scumgame of GB in the database
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=GlowingBear
AND THIS IS HILARIOUS
On February 18 2016 10:02 GlowingBear wrote:
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:49 GMT
#1233
LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town.
On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD

##Vote: noon

On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here

VOTE KUSH

On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT


VOTE KUSH

On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:50 GMT
#1234
And GB ACTUALLY got angry already in this game.

On May 29 2018 06:03 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.

GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia.


MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING I POST BUT KEEP CALLING ME MAFIA JESUS CHRIST IVE NEVER SEEN YOU THIS TUNNELED AS EITHER ALIGNMENT


Was that not enough for you ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 17:58 GMT
#1239
On June 02 2018 02:54 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 02 2018 02:49 Rels wrote:
LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town.
On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD

##Vote: noon

On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here

VOTE KUSH

On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT


VOTE KUSH

On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID


Which game was that? Probably one where I didn't play with him unless is total shit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=GlowingBear
What game did you play with scum!GB then ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:00 GMT
#1240
Apparently you were VT is that game where GB was scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia

GB didn't seem unable to get angry in that game either:
On April 20 2015 11:57 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 20 2015 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
On April 20 2015 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 20 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 20 2015 11:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
A glaring mistake in your case just skimming through btw
SL never scumreads artanis at all so I think your whole second point kinda falls apart

I dunno if I should feel bad because the case isn't awful but I just don't feel convinced
I think all of SL's inconsistencies have been pointed out before but for some reason I don't find myself caring about them too much and clearly neither does anyone else

I truly don't know why

SL you should explain some of this stuff at some point


I posted the quote he scumreads Artanis... He voted Artanis until the very last second... He assumed Artanis was killed by vigi because Artanis was scummy...

I looked through his filter and you're right, but the post you quoted is not technically a scumread of him.
Alright more to explain SL go ahead


of course I scumread artanis why do you think I almost lynched him? I think its more logical the veg agreed with me then shot an afk palmer. If im scum why dont I kill artanis? im pretty sure I could have hammered him too. I could kill two good town players instead of a good town player + ls.

Remember the vote was close like 3-3 and I UNVOTED artanis. Why? I explain I looked at his pregame excuse to limit his filter. I figured I would give him another day. No offense to ls but hes never finding mafia. I have played like 10 games with ls and hes never found and identified one mafia. He just sheeps. Artanis might find mafia and I might townread him. Ls wont that was my logic to switch





That doesn't make sense.

You scumread Artanis but decide to vote LS because he isn't equally valuable town asset as Artanis is. Then you ask your strongest scumread to vote for your weakest scumread, he does that and you VOTE WITH HIM WHILE STILL BELIEVING HE IS MAFIA AND YOU THINK VIGI AGREED WITH YOU AFTER THIS??????

On April 21 2015 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
FOR FUCK SAKE, I'M NOT CALLING SL MAFIA FOR TRYING TO GET VIGI TO CLAIM
I'M CALLING HIM MAFIA FOR SAYING HE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH BAD INFORMATION, BUT INSTANTLY USING THAT BAD INFORMATION AS BASIS TO HIS WHOLE PLAY AFTER NIGHT1

OMG HF

On April 21 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
nice you posted a useless post where you say exactly what i said

1. the sentence literally after what you wrote says: "this could just be awful vivax"

2. easy targets is such a bull shit reason for someone being mafia when they put cases on those people that are thought out like you can't pick and choose who is mafia in a game so what if they were all easy mislynch people???? people pushing them must be mafia!!!!

3. how the fuck are you an easy target?? which people in this game aren't easy targets then?????????


THREAD SENTIMENT IS AGAINST ME
ALL THREAD SENTIMENT
GOING AGAINST ME IS BEING IN AN EASY TARGET

TRY TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER WHO IS SCUMMY AS HELL
JUST TRY IT
YOU WON'T BE ABLE
THREAD SENTIMENT ISN'T AGAINST HIM + PEOPLE SIMPLY CAN'T SEE HOW HE IS MAFIA

YOU'RE FUCKING LETTING HIM LIVE BECAUSE HE IS BAD EVERY GAME, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EXCUSE????

On April 21 2015 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, if you think he could be awful Vivax, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCUMREADING HIM THEN?????

On April 21 2015 05:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Fuck this
I want to lynch SL first
If impossible, I want to lynch HF
If impossible, I'll lynch Koshi
I will lynch no one else.

I'm pretty certain this is the scum team + Koshi is intentionally trying to piss WoS off, reinforcing the argument that Koshi is mafia with them.

On April 21 2015 07:38 GlowingBear wrote:
EVERYTIME I CAN GET MY PHONE TO CHECK THE THREAD THERE IS HF POSTING THIS STUPID "AFK GB AGAIN LOLOLOL MAFIA" AAAAAARGH
YOU COULDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHY BEING AFK MAKES ME MAFIA AND YOU FUCKING DIDN'T PROPERLY READ MY CASE ON SL, A CASE THAT EVEN HIIIIIIIMSEEEEEELF COULDN'T CLEAR HIS THOUGHT PROCESS WTF AAAAAAAAAAARGH

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE IT??????????????

On April 21 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
yeh gb's list is like 3 townies


HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW SL AND KOSHI ARE TOWN LIKE THAT?????
YOU WERE FUCKING VOTING KOSHI ALL DAY LONG FFS

On April 21 2015 07:44 GlowingBear wrote:
This is fucking unacceptable.
It doesn't even make sense to policy lynch someone you have a slight townread over any other lurker you have as null.

You backing off of Koshi just proves my theory.

PLEASE, TOWN, PLEASE SEE THIS, THIS IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS!!!

On April 21 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote:
On April 21 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
yeh gb's list is like 3 townies


HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW SL AND KOSHI ARE TOWN LIKE THAT?????
YOU WERE FUCKING VOTING KOSHI ALL DAY LONG FFS

stfu GB. You are terrible.

How the fuck do you know SL and I are town and that HF knows that? Fucking so bad.


Fuck you Koshi, you know exactly what I meant

On April 21 2015 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
it does make sense and if you read the thread vayne asked me the very same question
On April 19 2015 11:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
sure, if were taking out trash why not me or loafery before koshi? seems more like a premeditated decision rather then just a throwaway vote.

On April 19 2015 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
because he's also actively being a douche



You know this is a shitty answer

On April 21 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 07:46 sicklucker wrote:
Can we just vote gb its more funny when hes mafia here. I dont even care if im wrong I want to be right. Im thinking hf is kind of townie latey. Hes just doing random things i dont think he would do as mafia


LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT
FUCK THIS GAME

FUCKING MISLYNCH ME AND FUCKING LOSE THE GAME

THIS TOWN DESERVES TO LOSE THIS SHIT

On April 21 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 21 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
why is it a shitty answer? of all the afkers to policy lynch i'd choose the one actively being a dick and potentially playing anti win con any day, ESPECIALLY if I think he is a bit towny


IT
MAKES
NO
SENSE
TO ACTIVELY VOTE FOR LYNCHING A TOWN READ THAN BACK OFF CONVINIENTLY AT EOD WHEN KOSHI DIDN'T MAKE SHIT FOR YOU TO FLIP LIKE THAT AND FORM A WAGON ON A TOWNIE UNLESS YOU'RE FUCKING MAFIA WITH KOSHI

On April 21 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol I'm out of this, fuck this game
Fucking mislynch me and fucking LOSE THIS SHIT

Do as you please, I don't give a fuck anymore

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:01 GMT
#1241
On June 02 2018 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh I see it was this post that was about Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
On May 27 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1st post: "GB is town"
2nd psot: "GB is ACTUALLY town, this is my final decision"
3rd psot: "you know actually GB is town"

yeaaaahhh...


i'm down with this read


Yeah.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:03 GMT
#1242
Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:08 GMT
#1245
On June 02 2018 03:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:
On June 02 2018 02:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 02 2018 02:49 Rels wrote:
LS, I found quite a few posts where GB was pretty angry in his filter. So I think you're lying about this whole test stuff. GB getting angry doesn't prove he's town.
On February 18 2016 05:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I'm voting Kush because between Kush and Palmar I sincerely prefer to see dying the guy who admits have a null read on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER and is lynching a townie for a BAD POLICY LYNCH without giving a single FUCK to the Votecount AT EOD

##Vote: noon

On February 18 2016 05:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like seriously, there is no reason to call Kush town here

VOTE KUSH

On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT


VOTE KUSH

On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID


Which game was that? Probably one where I didn't play with him unless is total shit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=GlowingBear
What game did you play with scum!GB then ?

Witchcraft 3 as his scum partner. I think that was it. He was smurfing as FreezingFoot. He didnt get that angry that game but he bumped heads with wbg.

So this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=FreezingFoot&view=all
He got angry in a few posts too:
On June 10 2015 07:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
YOU ARE GOING TO MISLYNCH HIM!!!!

On June 10 2015 07:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
FUCKING VOTE BILL MURRAY!

On June 10 2015 07:29 FreezingFoot wrote:
This is ridiculous.

BM's play is completely unnatural, forced, and completely anti-town.
Shockey's play is completely uninspiring and his inconsistencies can't come from a town perspective.

Yet the biggest wagons are null LS and modkillable Stutters. LOL.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE! PLEASE VOTE BILL!!!!

On June 10 2015 07:32 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On June 10 2015 07:29 Kickstart wrote:
Also LS scum reading Bill who was the only other real possibility of getting lynched (aside form the lurkers which I asked him to ignore) is odd. In this situation as town, I pour out all my thoughts so that town has something from me to go on when I am confirmed town at the flip. Meanwhile LS just afks.


THE GUY IS THE FUCKING LYNCH FOR TODAY
IF HE IS SCUM THIS IS THE EXACT TIME HE WOULD BE DEFENDING HIMSELF TO SURVIVE
YET HE ISN'T EVEN TRYING TO DEFEND HIMSELF ARGGGGH

On June 10 2015 07:50 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:46 Kickstart wrote:
Bill don't tell who you vote to get powers. Christ. Mafia has 2 silver bullets they can use anytime to instakill ppl who got powers through the witchcraft votes.

kickstart, you really think it isn't obvious WBG is going to get powers?


LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!! AAAARGH

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:11 GMT
#1248
Like LS I'm sorry if you're town, I've tried these last games to not attack people over not being logical for a detail. But this makes no sense.

First, the whole concept of "I did these weird posts because I was baiting" usually comes from scum.

Second, you declared GB was town as a result of the "bait" because he got angry. But he had already gotten angry a few times before in this current game, in particular fighting HF.

Third, I checked 3 different scumgames of GB, 2 of them you were in, and in the 3 GB was perfectly able to get angry as scum; it actually seems like it's the thing he likes to do when he doesn't know what else to post.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:13 GMT
#1249
On June 02 2018 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 03:03 Rels wrote:
Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner.

Maybe I'm wrong.

It was mostly based on the way he responded when people gave him a scum read in posts like this one.
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On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.

He said things like this a couple of other times when people scum read him and I was going to try to see if he does it as scum. You would think you would be able to meta LS but I have a hard time with it.

I actually find this post pretty weird, the PM to the host thing seems pretty forced to me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:18 GMT
#1251
On June 02 2018 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 03:13 Rels wrote:
On June 02 2018 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 02 2018 03:03 Rels wrote:
Grack why do you think LS is town ? He got stucked in this "I was baiting GB" story so hard that he has now backed himself into a corner.

Maybe I'm wrong.

It was mostly based on the way he responded when people gave him a scum read in posts like this one.
On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.

He said things like this a couple of other times when people scum read him and I was going to try to see if he does it as scum. You would think you would be able to meta LS but I have a hard time with it.

I actually find this post pretty weird, the PM to the host thing seems pretty forced to me.

I don't know. I can read passive-aggressive anger in his response and if LS was going to pretend to be angry about something I don't think he would fake subtle anger.

yeah, I was talking about the other half of the post. For the first part, dunno, seems like the classic "you're town but bad" scum can do. I don't think it makes him scum but I'm don't see the opposite either.
I guess it's worth to check if LS ever responded to a scumread in that manner as scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 18:30 GMT
#1252
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?user=LightningStrike&view=all
no real post like that one, apart from this:
On December 21 2016 06:21 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 21 2016 06:17 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:13 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:09 ExO_ wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:03 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 06:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I still don't think ExO is mafia based on meta and I still didn't see any real case on disformation unless I missed it somewhere in my skim. I pretty sure HF and Koshi are very likely town with their interactions with other people with their questioning. Dunno about sicklucker though seems very trollish early into not doing much. Kinda want to talk to him when he gets back to get a better read on him. Rels seems pretty townie too for his questioning and trying to push discussion on disformation but didn't see a real case on him :\


just vote me bra

I honestly don't want to waste my vote on you especially considering how many people rather lynch ExO although I don't want to lynch him tbh.


Why are you so sure I'm town, when everyone else thinks I'm scum?

Because I had read some of your past games compared it to this game and this game you seems like your game more than scum. I am the meta king of TL Mafia. Unless you learned how to be a very emotional scum I don't see you being scum here unless you pulled a me.


The other possibility is that you are scum, know I'm town, and are trying to get town cred for the future

I am the meta king and town this game I assure you Koshi and the others can back me up on how good I am with meta.


I'm highly skeptical. How is it you almost immediately believed me, when everyone else is convinced I'm the mafia boogie man? Either you really are the meta king, or you are scum.

I find it more likely that you are scum, which is ironic because you're the only person who believes I'm town right now

First I take a look at some of your past games as both alignments then compared this game with them. Then I make my judgement. I am truly the meta king of TL Mafia

Kinda different though, more braggy than insulting. Later he fake raged, voting himself, screaming, etc. But I already knew LS could do that as either alignments since millionnaire.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
There is this one that is similar:
On February 27 2016 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 27 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote:
Im still kinda feeling a scum LS here, for the following reasons:

You really stuck your neck out with your bresh read.

How LS changed his opinion on bresh which I mentioned earlier doesnt sit right with me.

Rels doesn't even seem interested into the possibility of lynching LS as displayed during my research this day which is not ideal for scum.

I think this is right now because I had already told you need to get rid of your tinfoil hat because you are wrong on me:
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