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On May 25 2018 22:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 20:21 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 20:16 fuba wrote:On May 25 2018 20:06 Rels wrote:On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni Why are you talking about LS being scum in 99% of your post, then voting another dude ? What are your thoughts on his LS reasoning? not bad, it's true that LS changed his read after rayn did it, then justified it with "fuzzy meta". ##Vote RelsRels openings are legendary bad but this cant go unpunished.
GB or Rels. Can you explain again what happened here with LS and why you think that makes him mafia?
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On May 27 2018 18:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:12 Grackaroni wrote:
I think you're pretty heavily mafia siding Holyflare.
I think I gave a more defensible argument for voting Jealous than either Lightningstrike or Fuba gave for voting Koshi. And my list was pretty clearly superior to DF's in terms of reasoning even though there wasn't any scum reads at the bottom of it. Can somebody give me his opinion on this post. I have issues with it but I dont know why. I went back 2 pages because I dont know what this post is.
The things grack says here
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On May 27 2018 18:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.
HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi
Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).
This wagon doesn't sound right at all.
Dont forget df and Rels also made a +1 post. I like you gb. I like you.
And gb says here.
Are very similar about LS and fuba.
Not saying both are mafia. But seems like town is collectively frowning at their votes.
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On May 28 2018 22:50 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 19:26 Koshi wrote:On May 28 2018 08:51 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:50 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely. Rayn was killed because HF is either mafia or very wrong. Or Koshi is mafia and killed rayn because he was the only almost universally townread guy still going against him. Unlikely. That would be a dumb thing to do for Koshi because why put all the attention on you after your scum mate got lynched Day 1? It's a stupid play for Koshi as mafia to kill Rayn in all scenarios. This is really not true. And somewhat weird you are not more tunneled on me because you are scumreading me hard enough to want to murder me. I would expect the opposite conclusion from somebody who scumreads me. During the night phase when you started posting again I started question my own scumread on you hence why I tried to talk to HF and Rayn about you more but then the night kill made me get completely untunneled because I don't think you would put all the attention on yourself as scum by night killing rayn. Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 19:30 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 06:36 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 06:34 Grackaroni wrote:On May 27 2018 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I can start the wagon then.
##Vote: Koshi
I think he got a higher chance to flip scum than Grack. Why Koshi instead of Jealous? Don't you usually dislike voting off good players early? I don't really think Jealous is scum just maybe a bit misunderstood? Also remember my last game I lynched Oats Day 1? Can you explain this post better? Why is Jealous town? What about Jealous was misunderstood in the thread? And what has this to do with you and Oats last game? I didn't have him town was more of a null just I thought at the time that people couldn't understand his pictures mainly rayn. Also the Oats and me thing from last game was a answer to Grack about lynching high profile players as he asked if I don't usually lynch good players Day 1.
Maybe maybe. I bolded something in the nested quote and I really dont like you ended that sentence with a question mark.
But maybe I am nitpicking.
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I wonder why people scumread gb so much. He looks like an active townie that might be wrong on things. But what the fuck is he doing that is mafia?
Even wrote a million words during EoN1.... dafuq people.
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On May 28 2018 22:46 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 3 (conclusion)
Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow.
Regardless of my reads:
Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow:
- Holyflare (important asset)
- Rayn (important asset, can be town)
- Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch)
Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town.
SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference):
1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment)
2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon)
3) byj (forgettable play)
4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern)
5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia) Giving more thoughts to the votecount, as rayn already said, it heavily suggests mafia was afk at EoD. fuba was active and could've hammered me. So was Rels and he could've voted Koshi. Jealous was AFK, so he wouldn't be able to place a vote on counterwagons. fuba was here and could've unvoted Koshi to vote darthfoley with me and Rels, thus saving darthfoley UNLESS darthfoley was mafia with him. Rels could give any reason to vote koshi. I don't remember him townreading Koshi so it would be an okay play. He even agreed with Rayn's post. Darthfoley was afk. He was one of the few that could've saved Jealous without looking bad. I'm lynching between Darthfoley and LS. But i think Darthfoley will be more informative. ##Unvote
##Vote: darthfoley Your whole scenario doesn't matter if Koshi is mafia
What if I am not mafia? Is it completely valid then? Because that means I can stop playing and you claimed mafia to me.
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I am not really kidding. I am town. Your defense on a good point against you is "Koshi might be mafia".
But I am not. So how do you defend in that situation? Dont you agree it is odd that Jealous was lyncjed with 3 votes when there are so many active people.
Meh.
Mafia busses anyway and there are no blues but still.
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Anyway. I am not too bothered.
I am still somewhat stuck on fuba and ls atm. Maybe Rels was disregarded too soon. I guess it is better to not vote me and lose jealous over showing face. Meh
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On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do.
I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant.
My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy.
I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD.
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On May 29 2018 03:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah.. what can I say. I am undecided on df atm. Why isn't he almost conf town from your POV ... ? He could have lynched you but didn't.
I don't know if this is true. That's why.
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On May 29 2018 04:11 Rels wrote:
BTW why did you post if you didn't know you weren't lynched ?
If hosts failed to PM me it is on them.
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On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia.
I don't think GB is mafia.
The things you write on me are things I can't do anything about or a by product of me playing solely the moments you see me type.
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I"ll vote Mufasa now because his vote was really bad. Maybe it is him and the new guy. Maybe not.
I unvote LS because he is defending me while I am attacking him. As mafia it would be smarter to discredit me.
##vote Mufasa
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On May 29 2018 04:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD. cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia
meh. because I don't see clear mafia signs on actives I am voting off people who hide their alignment the most.
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On May 29 2018 05:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:58 Koshi wrote:On May 29 2018 04:57 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD. cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia meh. because I don't see clear mafia signs on actives I am voting off people who hide their alignment the most. I assume you know fuba well 'cause you know him by another handle ? Am I right thinking that ? Do you play mafia elsewhere, or is it unrelated ?
Lol no. I know him from here. Long time ago.
He is simply not playing hard and his df read is lazy.
I also don't see any direction in his posts towards solving the game.
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I wont be more energetic than this.
The game is just something I do on the side.
My content should be better than fubas if it is between us. But you decide to let meta influence you too much.
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On May 29 2018 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
You're mafia.
He is just dumb. Quote my post.
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Grack has been exceptionally smart. Countered the rayn case and now this. /clapclap
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I think it is way way more likely HF is mafia over GB. That being said. I think both are town.
But if this thread get to that amount of stupid. Lynch hf.
@GB. Also feel free to use this.
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rayn, Grack, LS and GB are playing a really great game as either alignment.
The rest are either under par at the game possibly due to low activity for some.
Anyway. You should always lynch fuba and the new guy d2. But I have been wrong in the past.
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