If this starts earlier than 04/05 or 6'th, I'll probably be mostly afk. I'll be around when I can after that though!
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If this starts earlier than 04/05 or 6'th, I'll probably be mostly afk. I'll be around when I can after that though! | ||
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On April 08 2018 06:29 GlowingBear wrote: Mr. Eversince and Mr. Rayn (because I think you may see what I see) Calix mafia? Y/N (Mrs.) Eversince sorry. Too early for me to decide but in the long term game.... 1) He comes back around and keeps sating 2) He uses the introduction to feign. What about Rayn though? He hasn't even posted yes? | ||
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I actually feel comfortable with you. You can be slightly town ![]() | ||
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On April 08 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote: Probably should have read role pm but I'm town now. Didn't read role? Claim role. Ok I like your style. | ||
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GB's alright in my book. He had something that gave me questions when I was skimming. I'll post those when I re-read. Not bad enough for me to move off my town impression of him. HF is so scarcely relevant right now that it's kinda scary. My experience with him has been: 1) Very strong points against people as either alignment. 2) Crazy active, this friend's filter at 2 pages after a day and a half r.r..... 3) Very inquisitive. He notices things that other people miss. Like a lot. He usually attacks these things and hammers scum for it. The fact that he's not currently doing it actually makes me think he's town. Even mafia HF exploits people trash comments. HF isn't doing that. He doesn't have any presence at all. So I will give him a light townread for right now (I hope you are ok HF!) Oats is questionable to me r.r Like he pokes holes in lots of things that are easy to poke holes in. Then doesn't elaborate on them at all. But he's 'lukewarm' in the sense that he hasn't really pushed these ideas towards anything. His largest attempt was on Calix and he still didn't even bother trying to start a wagon. Seems unusual from a mafia perspective to complain points idle in thread for no gain. He can be on my fence. Skynx is alright for now. CH has literally no post in the thread that I remember atm. Would lynch. Vivax is different than I remember from the times we last played. I'll give him time though. Tubesock seems alright. Exo_ He did make couple of post that I thought might be constructive. So I'll give him points for that. I'll filter him later and see what those were though. I don't remember r.r I didn't even realize nOObking was in the game before I filtered him. Would lynch. Damdie seems ok to me. I think that covers everything. I'm sorry if I missed something! I will go shower, and be back in about 15 minutes! | ||
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'See's all these points agains't Rayn.' Is caught in the moment. Filters. Sees what he's already biased to. Follows it. GB read is wierder. I'll have to double check that. But I dunno, seemed innocent to me. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:11 Tubesock wrote: I think where we disagree is the amount of coordination mafia actually does. And that changes our worldview. I’m saying Skynx saw heat on Rayn and took the opportunity to try to get him killed. It also makes him look productive. Maybe the other mafiates weren’t around. Maybe they already did rally and saw they were the only ones trying. My experience though mafia likes to help kill people but makes town do most the work. Calex was doing most the work, Skynx just added a little push. I don't see Calix as mafia. Skynx's post on GB/Rayn got no traction at all. I'll assume with 13 players there is at least 3 mafia. For it to gain no traction when most active are skeptical of Rayn just seems wrong to me. | ||
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Oats etc? I don't have experience playing with anyone but HF/ Oats. I don't think HF is mafia but I'm trying to not overthink things from now... I will end up tunneled lol. | ||
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And I've liked almost all of Rayn's post. So that's the other half. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:33 Tubesock wrote: It’s funny, you’re saying a lot of things that I feel support my argument. Rayne gets heat from a lot of people. Mafia would stack on the heat. Skynx adds heat. Skynx’ main point is Rayne lied about getting a timestamp. (Garbage reason) Skynx is town though. We agree with it all except for the alignment part. No, what I'm saying is that Skynx case on Rayn got no support. Rayn missing a timestamp means nothing to me. I fly between Germany/US/Korea on a monthly basis. I loose track so often it makes my head hurt. Find a better reason. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:37 Tubesock wrote: Start at the mid portion of page 15. Oats points out the backpedaling. And the easy townreading from Calex on Skynx. Yes, I read. I think she is genuine. People make mistakes. I like her post. She has been one of the most vocal players here. She made a read, changed it, said so, and moved on. Props girl. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont understand why skynx case getting no support means anything whatsoever because it was a terrible case. Yes, it was. The prior was for Rayn/Calix. That was like 2-3 pages worth of back and forth not 2-3 post. I thought they were fine. Skynx getting no support makes me think he's not mafia because Rayn under fire and pressure by half the damn thread makes no sense for the mafia to be l'oh, well wtf ever, we dun mind afk'. That's just stupid. | ||
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1). Skynx makes terrible case. 2) I decide it's terrible case. 3) I point out why it's ok from a town point of view even though it's a terrible case. 4) I repeat myself 65536 times that I Don't Think Skynx Is Scum. Pick out why you think it makes him one or it I'm going to put all of my attention there. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:57 Tubesock wrote: Ever means that despite half the thread giving Rayne heat not a single one was mafia therefore all who did were town. That if mafia tries to lynch someone halfway through the day they will surely succeed and would only do it in one coordinated effort. No I meant if it was a mafia driven lynch they would of just beat around the bush for 24 hrs then fucked off. They would of setup a diversion, and a backup, and pushed off onto one of those after Rayn failed. This whole concept is why Skynx isn't scum. Stop voting for him darnit. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote: that has nothing to do with his case getting no support His case got no support because his case deserved no support. Or are you really about to call me out about not reading timestamps being a mafia trait? Because the fact that I say his case has no merit makes me what? Am I scum? | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:11 Tubesock wrote: Last comment about this I swear. 1) its a terrible case. Why? Time stamps lies. Time stamps is a super nit picky thing, right? Do you think scum have to fabricate their cases, sometimes by finding any little thing so they can to fabricate a case? I do. And I think Skynx fabricated it so he could look productive. I also think he did it to blend in without risking too much attention. We will have to agree to disagree. Yes. Time stamp is a super shit reason. of course mafia have to fabricate their cases. It's mafia! I think Skynx was influenced by other post at the time and wrote out his case, based upon the post that were there, came to his conclusions, and made his reply, and then all this happens. I still stand on Skynx isn't scum. I don't want to see him lynched. I will fight against his lynch because I don't think he is scum. That's all that I can do but I'll take more steps to get across the more time that I have. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:39 GlowingBear wrote: Why would you give Vivax time if he is playing differently? Have you ever played with him as both alignments? Why does Damdred seems fine? Yes, It has been over a year but I have played with Vivax as both mafia and town. That's why he isn't on my list atm. He is playing different but that's to be expected after this long. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: The more i think about it i think i am being dumb and should vote for eversince. Aside everything else said i thought eversince's read on exo could make her town bit it is in fact not so. Either theyre both mafia or she has TMI. After all exo is calling me and gb mafia for ahady reasons, both of who eversince townreads. Why is her read on exo "i liked some things exo said but i dont remember which things". Like... the read on me/gb is ALL exo has talked about. ##unvote ##vote eversince r.r.... Catching up. But won't be around long. It's very late... | ||
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Rayn think's I'm scum. The people I knighted for have gone against me. Ask your questions, I don't want to be lynched because we misunderstand each other. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:48 Holyflare wrote: Why do you call me town after saying I'm playing like mafia? I've never said you were playing like mafia. I said your un-attached from the game. And I saw that as more as town then mafia. Because I know your a strong player as both alignments. So to be underwhelmed felt off. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:51 Calix wrote: Could you elaborate on your HF and Oats reads? Because as I noted before, I don't get how you are not mafia-reading Oats. And rayn/ HF do not understand why you're town-reading HF (I think). Also I am rereading your posts. Because n00bking said your theories about mafia coordination were not unusual. When I first read those posts, I thought they were unconvincing (because one cannot tell how active or coordinated a mafia team is) but I wasn't sure whether it meant anything for your alignment. Since it apparently doesn't, it follows that there may be further misunderstandings. I am scum reading Oats though? | ||
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I skipped this stuff before but can we not see why people would want another opinion? | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:49 ExO_ wrote: Why are/were you town reading me? @eversince I like your outlook. You might not have much but I can see in my own head why you'd think what you do. Thus town. I can't explain farther than that :'/. | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:25 ExO_ wrote: Do you agree with my thoughts on GB’s asking Rayn when Rayn wasnt there? Remind me of what you are referring to? | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote: hehe i'm sorry, this is spam! I think your face is super cute! What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment. If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o I'm sorry, this might be spam, I think your little face is super cute! | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:03 AMG wrote: Day 1 Vote count remaining Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster Vivax (2): n00bKing, Holyflare Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (1): Vivax Skynx (1): Tubesock ExO_ (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Not Voting (2): Eversince, Damdred Currently Eversince is set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) I do this because I need to sleep. I am out of time. I am lynch. I need to change this. I will die for this which sucks but whatever. | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:17 Vivax wrote: My guess is Skynx/HF/N00bking If one of these is wrong, Calix is a balls to the wall mafia. But not on D1, she'd have earned that much. HF/Noob possibly. not Skynx though in my opion. | ||
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Probably Calix because I like her reads. | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:35 Calix wrote: Admitting Vivax is scum? ![]() Why did you call my reads 'good' when I'm going hard at Vivax? Who you town-read? >.> I agree with your view point to the point I'm offering you a gun. Don't shoot Vivax. | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:45 currentlyhomeless wrote: if you are actually town why would mafia kill you maybe I’m dumb but I don’t get it I just claimed a blue.... mafia will kill me. Or next level mafia shit if they have a RB, they can RB me to lead a mislynch cycle 2. I don't know if they have a RB though. If they do not though I will take kp tonight. | ||
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Seriously, how? I claimed power role. The fact I realize that mafia will kill me for it makes me...... MAFIA? Get out of town sir. | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:51 Calix wrote: Scusi, Miss Eversince, but would you like to take the time to filter-dive a player you think is scum and use your new-found influence to lynch one of your less mainstream reads? Or would you rather talk about blues? ![]() my vote's where I'd like it to be. I'm to tired to really be bothered... I'm only sticking around because I made the commitment to join this game so I'm trying to participate in it r.r. | ||
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On April 09 2018 23:07 currentlyhomeless wrote: I am tempted to vote for this seems so forced but what if my eyes arent reaaaal so high rn Vivax is town then? YES plsease! Even if I get lynched it's ok. Vivax is town though! Calix and Rayn are town! Rethinkg this things already ![]() | ||
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On April 09 2018 23:15 Calix wrote: A lack of scummy traits =/= town-read, otherwise one would also town-read, I dunno, Damdred. I don't think Damdred is mafia. He's just afk. | ||
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I'm going to try to reread the last 20 pages again. I'll be around if I can be. | ||
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His responses just seem like a non-linear chain of thought. Some are outlandish but that's ok. I don't care that he has some wild ideas. I do like that he is willing to pursue some of those in a blunt manner. Even if he's wrong, his line of thought is plain. Don't see why he was getting heat this cycle. But maby that's just me. | ||
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@HF: Just look at his over-all posting. doesn't feel mafia to me, You have to look at the whole. there is no single post that make's my stance. | ||
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On April 10 2018 18:45 Skynx wrote: Which gun? Aren't you yet to make one tonight? On April 10 2018 18:32 Eversince wrote: ok, I'm just retarded in English comprehension. Who do I give it to? I did start with one. | ||
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"Reasons to not lynch ES" 1)Claimed. 2)Un CC 3)Contradiction amass all over the place under direct heat. vs my meta I have little time and everyone who has played with me knows it so why I am not just afk at this point? 4)Has openly lied (in the time frames) to try to divert lynches away from me. Why would mafia do ANY of this? | ||
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On April 10 2018 19:01 Calix wrote: GS isn’t guaranteed to be in the game. You’re also extremely self-aware about your contradictions and bungling of the GS role. And you are currently not doing much but adding a shitload of WIFOM to the game. This is really bad given current game state. I will grant that claiming GS is a really weird thing for mafia to do though. Exactly. Why would I do this as mafia? I'm making as much noise right now as possible. Mafia wouldn't do this. If people are annoyed with me that is ok. I don't want town to burn a lynch on me. | ||
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On April 10 2018 19:08 currentlyhomeless wrote: if you are town why did you claim in the first place you weren’t even close to dying I was the lead wagon right before I tried to go to sleep... I ended up being awake much longer defending myself because that's what was needed. | ||
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I gave the gun to Rayn (town!Rayn) Shoots somebody. (mafia!Rayn) Shoots town. The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town. | ||
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Gunsmith - Each night Gunsmith may choose to either create a gun, or pass a gun to another player. A player who receives a gun is treated as a 1-Shot Vigilante for the rest of the game. Gunsmith may pass a gun to the same player multiple times but may not use the gun themself. [b]Starts the game with one gun[/]b[Optional] I MISUNDERSTOOD the statement telling me I did have one TWICE when reading my role. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:36 Eversince wrote: as per the OP Gunsmith - Each night Gunsmith may choose to either create a gun, or pass a gun to another player. A player who receives a gun is treated as a 1-Shot Vigilante for the rest of the game. Gunsmith may pass a gun to the same player multiple times but may not use the gun themself. Starts the game with one gun[Optional] I MISUNDERSTOOD the statement telling me I did have one TWICE when reading my role. There better now. apologies r.r | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:44 Vivax wrote: It doesn't confirm you though. If you flip mafia then town!rayn would never receive a gun and neither would mafia rayn. If you are town then mafia rayn can lie about it. if I die and flip town it absolutely confirms Rayn. | ||
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It will also confirm Rayn as town and just hope he has time! | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:49 Tubesock wrote: I don’t think you understand how night actions work. Hosts wait till end if the night to resolve. That way people can decide what to do till :59. They won’t then PM the recipient “hey here’s a gun you want to use it now?” And put the game on hold till the person pm’s them back. Oh well that's not what I'm use to but this site has faster actions. If their's double kp tomorrow night that might make Rayn mafia then. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:07 currentlyhomeless wrote: nah this is another level like if it were one mistake its fine but ever literally gets every important aspect of the role wrong until called out in thread claims to not have a gun then backtracks when called out on it claims rayn is town bc n1 there was only 1 kill ever & hf & rayn 100% makes sense sheep me In what world does the entire mafia team out themselves after 1 person slips on D1? None. Ever. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:25 currentlyhomeless wrote: yeah or ever is scum and we lose the game cause scrubs never lynch obvious scum because of “reasons” Or you know, like if there is a invest role in the game... they could like... you know... CHECK ME? Unless I'm GF that's fail safe! But of course simple logic is a GF wouldn't be acting like I am at all but hey, no one seems to like logic. | ||
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I'm not even remotely good enough to try to do that so it makes the argument why I would try seem worse r.r | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:42 Oatsmaster wrote: because you had to go to sleep and you were the leading wagon? So I picked a role at random without even bother to see how it worked with half the day left? | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:59 Vivax wrote: He doesn't feel any pain ES. GB has never felt better before I'm sure. Are you being serious or was that (Word for metaphor that I don't remember)? Because falling off a cliff would be really bad and if he did I hope he's actually ok. | ||
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Shows how good my memory is anymore. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:10 Tubesock wrote: On April 10 2018 05:44 Holyflare wrote: Explain why you magically came up with the opposite conclusion now? On April 10 2018 05:46 Holyflare wrote: I actually think this is a fair point. So many options it wasn't a decided lynch at all and town is all over the place. Either HF is trying to decide and commit to something or mafia!HF is trying to direct it. I assume it's town!HF just not having the time to deal with it. Personal opinion. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Because you were leaving? I mean, its obviously not at random but you are terrible at it. Soooo Because I work 12-18 hr stints you nit wit! I knew I needed to sleep and I was an hour late because I didn't. Thanks! | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:21 Tubesock wrote: Not the same take away I got. Calix- “4 STATIC wagons, one must be scum. Probably Vivax” Time. Vivax gets another vote or whatever. Calix -“Vivax wagon is weirdlySTATIC he must be town. Fair, I'll go relook at it. I don't want to be bothered with looking at it right now but hold me to it. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:23 Tubesock wrote: That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying you were pressed for time (since you said you were leaving) so didn’t have the time to properly find a fake claim to claim. You’re not going to convince them. Talk to him about Calix or rayn or something other than you. Excellent idea, Oats/ everyone else talk to me! I won't bite (Hard >:3) | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote: backtracked on rayn terribly, froze when voting and didnt realize that the lynched dude was being lynched by her scumreads I found her backpedal on Rayn to be ok. I mentioned before I felt like it was TvT and her stopping to re-eval seemed townie to me. Froze up/ voting with scum reads I will need to go back and look at. I was not around for eod. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:37 Tubesock wrote: Eversince, what do you think of this cas and read by rayn? It seems alright to me. I can see why Exo would have problems with GB random Calix mafia. I can see Rayn point because of the way Exo worded his. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote: why do you think Im mafia? am i not doing the same thing you think Calix is doing? You're actively drawing at point in myself and others that are easily exploitable. Which is generally a good way to play. But even the point of this is to find mafia. You're not trying to here. Because even after I've exhuasted myself trying to explain myself, you still push the same points. So then I have to defend the same points, like right now, over in the thread, again, for like the 4'th? time now. Nobody has time for this and why your shoving so hard makes little sense when I'm around to talk to let us just talk. I will answer questions. I have been reclusive at no point in this game. So you're just drawing out clutter in the thread to clutter the thread. I'm highly emotional so I'm easy to be drawn into this sort of thing so then I clutter the thread. That's how I see it. That's why I listen to Vivax when he told me to hush and just try to talk about something else. Seemed like a good idea. I'll continue on that path. | ||
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I'm sorry if you are insulted. I decided taking a step back was the right choice because I was getting annoyed. I didn't mean to insult you. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:51 Eversince wrote: I don't like Oats at all. I don't like CH except I feel ok with the exchange we just had. But it's been what he's done a few times. I'm sitting on it for now because I don't want to OMGUS. GB fell off the radar. which might be rl (assumed). Damdred's been non exsistant this game. The problem I'm having this game is a lot of the active players I don't feel like are mafia. Which leaves me to lynch into the people that I do know that feel like they should be doing more (Screw meta reads.) or lynching in-actives. Obviously drop the GB mention there. I forgot he was the lynch because I'm operating on no sleep :/ | ||
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On April 11 2018 12:57 Tubesock wrote: What’s the second sentence mean? Oats is voting Calix. If CH and Oats are doing the same things, why are you townreading one and have the other as your primary lynch target? I mean that Oats/CH both question me for similar reasons. I haven't put votes on either one. Which Oats pointed to the fact I was treating him and CH different and that's not true. I'm taking my dog for a walk. I will be back within 45-hr. | ||
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On April 11 2018 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually i have to say here i am once again sceptic about Eversince because there is a very easy way to resolve this and i am not sure why this isn't happening already and the discussion has been going on for like pages and Eversince is weird as fuck again. Eversince, do you have a gun? I tried to give you my gun. That is why you are confirmed town to me. | ||
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I'm sorry guys. I'll try to catch up but I'm a far way behind. I didn't get to read anything from today. I can't no vote so I'll just vote myself. I'll try to be around but the last few days have been really rough for me. No promises. | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: roflmao this actually makes sense. Eversince elaborate please? Rayn why would I even try to make that statement as mafia r.r? I already have pressure and I listed what I remembered. That's it. Go to main page> Look at Day post> Recall what had happened from before> make statement. | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:30 Tubesock wrote: How does a mafioso forget who their night kill target was?? Yes! If I didn't even remember GB was the NK when I know there was only 1 KP I obviously checked the day post. Why would I make that slip as mafia? Silly. | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: The only way she would know, without looking at the daypost, that i "didn't shoot anyone" as she claims, is if she didn't actually even try to give me a gun. ![]() If I knew that I hadn't given you the gun and people has talked about the possible scenario of me just repeating RB for days.... Why would I still go that route? I'm just going to paint myself as mafia as possible as mafia. Because that's the course mafia!ES takes? Just damn yourselve farther by making yourself look bad by being honest. Noooo if I'm mafia in this scenario my team is screaming at me to spew town and not just give town a free lynch. But mafia does want the free lynch. The fact they left me alive is enough proof to me for that.I think I understand though. people have a hard time understanding what I say and that's ok. | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:36 Tubesock wrote: I have no idea. I have no idea how she made most of her posts. Her posts don’t make sense as town or mafia. You guys can lynch her if you want. I doubt I could stop you anyway. But she’s probably going to flip town gun smith. | ||
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