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So why wouldn't I, as mafia, just vote for ExO_ then and look consistent and squeaky clean? Or actually vote for n00bking and join the bandwagon? Or actually vote for the AFK dude? Or actually use my vote so that I don't run into mod actions?
#morehypotheticalWIFOM
You're just pointing out that I made a dumb move at deadline regardless of my alignment. Which I said as much already.
I get why people think it's weird because I wasn't thinking logically at deadline. I also get why people could plausibly think I am scummy for it. But I couldn't have been playing optimally as 'mafia' either.
I can't really offer a better explanation than "I froze, wasn't thinking properly and made a dumb move"
If you want to keep calling me mafia, fine, but at least talk about something else because trying to get me to ""explain"" my EOD is not going to work.
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On April 10 2018 05:37 Calix wrote: So why wouldn't I, as mafia, just vote for ExO_ then and look consistent and squeaky clean? Or actually vote for n00bking and join the bandwagon? Or actually vote for the AFK dude? Or actually use my vote so that I don't run into mod actions?
#morehypotheticalWIFOM
You're just pointing out that I made a dumb move at deadline regardless of my alignment. Which I said as much already.
I get why people think it's weird because I wasn't thinking logically at deadline. I also get why people could plausibly think I am scummy for it. But I couldn't have been playing optimally as 'mafia' either.
I can't really offer a better explanation than "I froze, wasn't thinking properly and made a dumb move"
If you want to keep calling me mafia, fine, but at least talk about something else because trying to get me to ""explain"" my EOD is not going to work.
I think you're partners with currentlyhomeless because there was absolutely 0 reasons not to vote him. If he's town he's a free vote, if he's mafia you can't vote him. If you are town there should be absolutely no qualms of lynching a guy with like 1 page of filter over noobking, especially since you seemed to say we shouldn't lynch people with big filters over smaller ones!! You chose the not to kill him option.
Voting exo is terrible afk useless vote and achieves nothing and makes you look bad for voting off wagons at decision time. It makes you look worse for not voting homeless.
Voting noobking is voting with your mafia read exo and your original mafia read vivax. Saying vivax is town because the votes are static when vivax wasn't even in the lead anymore is the most cop out read possible.
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On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote: [quote] Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol. Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck. I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.
Explain why you magically came up with the opposite conclusion now?
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On April 10 2018 04:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:On April 10 2018 04:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Day 1 Vote count remaining Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear Eversince (0): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (0): Skynxn00bking (2): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_ Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax ExO_ (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet Raynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting (1):Skynx Currently Vivax is set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) Just my thought but this vote count is horrendous for town I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2.
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Quite literally saying whatever appeases the current person in the thread.
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Because of timing.
And if you don't believe me, remember that you scum-read me for LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME REASON in HM 3.0. I might just quote my posts from there to save myself some effort.
It's quite amusing.
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On April 10 2018 05:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 05:37 Calix wrote: So why wouldn't I, as mafia, just vote for ExO_ then and look consistent and squeaky clean? Or actually vote for n00bking and join the bandwagon? Or actually vote for the AFK dude? Or actually use my vote so that I don't run into mod actions?
#morehypotheticalWIFOM
You're just pointing out that I made a dumb move at deadline regardless of my alignment. Which I said as much already.
I get why people think it's weird because I wasn't thinking logically at deadline. I also get why people could plausibly think I am scummy for it. But I couldn't have been playing optimally as 'mafia' either.
I can't really offer a better explanation than "I froze, wasn't thinking properly and made a dumb move"
If you want to keep calling me mafia, fine, but at least talk about something else because trying to get me to ""explain"" my EOD is not going to work. I think you're partners with currentlyhomeless because there was absolutely 0 reasons not to vote him. If he's town he's a free vote, if he's mafia you can't vote him. If you are town there should be absolutely no qualms of lynching a guy with like 1 page of filter over noobking, especially since you seemed to say we shouldn't lynch people with big filters over smaller ones!! You chose the not to kill him option. Voting exo is terrible afk useless vote and achieves nothing and makes you look bad for voting off wagons at decision time. It makes you look worse for not voting homeless. Voting noobking is voting with your mafia read exo and your original mafia read vivax. Saying vivax is town because the votes are static when vivax wasn't even in the lead anymore is the most cop out read possible.
So basically one giant association read?
I also disagree that voting for ExO would look bad. But hypotheticals, eh.
As for rayn, I don't know if you're expecting a big post in response to that. I thought [at the time!] that Vivax was more likely town due to vote count. Although looking at votes, you are probably correct that my argument sucks since Vivax voted for n00b after Skynx did.
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Well crap, bad on nOOb. I've only skimmed and won't be able to be around for long. I did catch conversation about people consolidating on who I make a gun for. I am ok with this. I will only refuse if its a mafia read.
I'm going to try to reread the last 20 pages again. I'll be around if I can be.
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On April 09 2018 23:10 Holyflare wrote: Why is vivax town?
^ Eversince
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On April 10 2018 07:39 Holyflare wrote:^ Eversince
His responses just seem like a non-linear chain of thought. Some are outlandish but that's ok. I don't care that he has some wild ideas. I do like that he is willing to pursue some of those in a blunt manner. Even if he's wrong, his line of thought is plain. Don't see why he was getting heat this cycle. But maby that's just me.
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I have wild ideas but am also not paranoid since apparently that's the definition everyone is using? Looks like I am two opposite things at once then. You should figure out which one it is instead.
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When have I called you paranoid???
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On April 10 2018 07:54 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 07:39 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2018 23:10 Holyflare wrote: Why is vivax town? ^ Eversince His responses just seem like a non-linear chain of thought. Some are outlandish but that's ok. I don't care that he has some wild ideas. I do like that he is willing to pursue some of those in a blunt manner. Even if he's wrong, his line of thought is plain. Don't see why he was getting heat this cycle. But maby that's just me.
Give me examples please.
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I think your town, I don't think all your reads are right but we just lynched someone I thought would flip red. He was town so I can be wrong too r.r. I think that you being open about saying why you draw conclusion that you do probably makes you town. Even if I don't agree with the read. You're not trying to loll people into following an incorrect read with it. Thus 'if it's wrong' town/scum [t] vs making the same play as mafia.
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On April 10 2018 08:21 Eversince wrote: When have I called you paranoid???
Not you, HF said that I wasn't paranoid enough cause I gave a townread on rayn. But you say I have wild ideas. It just stuns me how I keep getting called different things this game.
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On April 10 2018 08:25 Eversince wrote: I think your town, I don't think all your reads are right but we just lynched someone I thought would flip red. He was town so I can be wrong too r.r. I think that you being open about saying why you draw conclusion that you do probably makes you town. Even if I don't agree with the read. You're not trying to loll people into following an incorrect read with it. Thus 'if it's wrong' town/scum [t] vs making the same play as mafia.
I hope I will be proven right that n00bking was mostly voting with mafia when the game is over, cause that's how it feels like to me right now.
Need to do a skynx reread, but am pretty biased cause he didn't choose to hammer me. Dunno.
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Alright. Sorry. I might word things wrong. You have a different approach at how you view people. I'm ok with this. You are open about your opinion through this. I think you explain youself just fine. HF obviously doesn't see why I think that. Then this.
@HF: Just look at his over-all posting. doesn't feel mafia to me, You have to look at the whole. there is no single post that make's my stance.
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Vivax:
Dodging all posts about calix.
Refuses to allude to why he said hf and nk were a team and didn't bother explaining why we're mafia but unvoting him where if he's town we could have just pushed harder for his lynch.
Doesn't actually care about solving the game.
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Why can't you answer simple questions vivax? Why do you say I can't play a simple game of answering questions but then you never respond to me?
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Calix points are very good.
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