[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 80

On March 12 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
We can just yolo onto who we think is scum anyway and say fuck the risk, but not if vivax is going to be obstinate.

If it were just me I'd play it safe because I don't know who the scum is. Some of the others of you seem more convinced. I think I'd still prefer HF, and I know Vivax has dug in his heels against an HF shot.

I'd say that vivax forcing a split shot is at best anti-town, and at worst a deliberate attempt to cause confusion and get town to spread out over multiple targets. In terms of yolo shots, I might actually prefer a shot on him if he refuses to set aside his stubborness. Definitely would regardless if not for the fact that it would be even more damaging to wrongly shot a town medic than a vt.

On March 12 2018 07:06 darthfoley wrote:
I mean when you stop and think about it, the scum medic has to sow confusion because he basically loses if the town medics get it right.

On March 11 2018 23:49 darthfoley wrote:
So something i've been sitting on for a while but didn't want to necessarily bring up is Vivax's scum meta.

I've played a few games with Vivax, albeit not recently, but I remember he is well known for being bad at scum. I also remember people saying in previous games "scum!Vivax can play decently for a day, at most two, but after that he becomes pretty obvious."

Why wouldn't you have scum!Vivax claim medic during the mass claim? It effectively takes 100% of the pressure off of him for the next 2 days, not allowing him to put his foot in his proverbial mouth. It's also a credible claim because he's been pretty townread day 1 so hey, why not?

I encourage you people to control + F Vivax's filter about prplhz. Yes, prplhz didn't really give anyone much to work with, but Vivax's interactions about prplhz boil down to this:

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This could be a chainsaw post, but not particularly the most salient point. Fwiw, he also chainsaws AMG (who was the first on prplhz) decently hard throughout the day.



Delicate null lean. It's also interesting that he claims prplhz took a similar stance as him in the AMG/TS discussion, but still calls him null. Why?



Out of nowhere, Vivax now has prplhz in his two man lynch possibilities.



This is not only terrible logic, but also very awkwardly worded. Idk, I just hate this post a lot. As soon as rsoultin takes Vivax up on his "prplhz or df" possibilities, Vivax immediately backs down and say "well rats, golly gee, I just don't have enough info to make a decision (despite the fact that I just talked about lynching into one of those two!) His main reason to vote TS is that he's trying to survive (NAI) other someone who hasn't voted??? Really? Prplhz was a viable lynch wagon with two votes (AMG, darthfoley) with about 50 minutes before deadline and Vivax was around. He even makes this post while prplhz has two votes on him.



Credit to him for being on board with the prplhz vigdoctor, but I question the overall importance of a roleblocker in a setup like this. The medic seems infinitely more important. Roleblocker only really matters if medics split their votes, which we had decided was NOT going to happen, or if there's two medics left. Prplhz was either gonna get lynched or vigi'd sooner or later. Might as well try to gain as much town cred from it as possible.



Back to being all mopey about not having alternatives. This is the second time he's literally talked about having no other alternatives. Idk but as town I rarely think in terms of "having alternatives." I'm aware that it's semantics, but I think it may point to an overall scum mindset who is by definition always trying to have alternatives.

In short, Vivax's play around prplhz and the EoD in general looks too careful from my POV.

On March 12 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:


You having a fucking laugh?

On March 12 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Darthfoley and moosy ars without a doubt in my mind town

On March 12 2018 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh it is what it is. I'll look into noobking again. If there is a world where both noobking and vivax are scum that would be fantastic but I don't know the setup stuff or likelihood of that

On March 12 2018 07:21 Vivax wrote:
It's going to be a glorious night

On March 12 2018 07:10 rsoultin wrote:


-shrugs- I'm sorry if I'm wrong, especially considering I'm having the worst time this game finding who the scum is in the VTs and even the ones that I feel are town are for reasons that are laughably weak even to me.

That's why I said that I would just play it safe and vig koshi even if I really don't expect him to flip scum. I know my limits.

But it doesn't change the fact that, gun to my head, I think you're the most likely non-claim to flip scum here.

On March 12 2018 07:16 darthfoley wrote:


Literally impossible m8. They both claimed medic...

On March 12 2018 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's quite literally koshi posting nothing but setup and inaccurate statements, there's slam jumping back and forth between opportune targets on noob and me but not quite really saying anything etc etc.

I don't think it's good enough to say you're having a hard time but also saying I'm mafia while doing absolutely nothing at all to figure me out. That's just bad, not "a hard time".

What makes me mafia?