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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 21:17 GMT
#1521
On March 12 2018 06:15 rsoultin wrote:
Also, we still have a little over an hour, don't we? I thought deadline was at 23:59 CET...or is this a daylight saving's time thing with the US, in which case I've no earthly clue when deadline is.

Daylight savings happened in the US so we are one hour ahead yes.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 21:18 GMT
#1522
On March 12 2018 06:06 rsoultin wrote:
HF is right that if we can't get to a consensus on who to nk that's 3 deaths instead of 2, and his proposal at least minimizes the hemorraghing. I actually like it, because I think the best way for mafia to play is to just kill one person if they don't want to confirm a medic.

He's only "right" about that because other players badgered him into admitting that his original suggestion was horrendous. It appears you're right about the deadline, so explain why letting mafia kill one person and forfeiting the vig shot is beneficial to us. We apparently have time to listen.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 21:18 GMT
#1523
Ok we have 12 minutes. I suggest medics lock in who they're on. I don't think I'll resolve this with Vivax in that time.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 21:18 GMT
#1524
Wait so when are actions due then?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 21:18 GMT
#1525
On March 12 2018 06:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:15 rsoultin wrote:
Also, we still have a little over an hour, don't we? I thought deadline was at 23:59 CET...or is this a daylight saving's time thing with the US, in which case I've no earthly clue when deadline is.

Daylight savings happened in the US so we are one hour ahead yes.


Blah -_-

Well, as I see it, if any of the medics agree with Viva, everyone on moosy. Otherwise we have the other three consolidate on another target.

HF's plan is technically fine but I don't know that we can get it organized in so little time.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 21:19 GMT
#1526
I don't feel comfortable going with Vivax on Moosy
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 21:19 GMT
#1527
Okay i might actually be wrong. N2 post says we have 1 hr 39 min left

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/531261-medic-mafia?page=59#1175
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:19 GMT
#1528
On March 12 2018 06:09 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.

Pointing out the FACT that you are actively trying to reduce the town's win % is NOT semantics.


You have a chip on your shoulder and you're arguing with your mafia read. If I am mafia it is my exact goal to find the most favorable setup for mafia to win. I think not getting people killed and maximising that ability should be my ultimate goal. None of this factors into anything you say. You literally just spent three pages quoting my posts and contradicting what they say just to say "oh that's not the MOST town favoured it's what favours you the most!" Not once did you call me mafia for pushing this mafia strategy or anything. It is in fact semantics you are arguing. The minutiae about a plan and correcting it instead of using it as ammo to further your case is what makes me think you're very much mafia.

Of course I'm arguing with my mafia read. I'm trying to keep anyone else from listening to you, and I'm trying to COORDINATE the medics into KILLING YOU. Defeating your arguments is how that process goes. Have you played this game before?

Not once did I call you mafia for pushing this mafia strategy? I've called you mafia for it NON-STOP. What are you even talking about?
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
At the end of the day I say we should nk slam and df agrees and you just go "Fine, let's nk slam. It's not optimal but I'll do it." THIS IS A KILL THAT I JUST PROPOSED AND YOU ARE FINE JUMPING ON IT

Such a load of bs. I'm NOT fine jumping on it, but I've consistently maintained that splitting the kills is not optimal and that the medics should coordinate. I've said that every step of the way. If Slam is the best I could get, that's still better than splitting the kills. We can afford to be wrong, thanks to the leniency gained from the mass claim YOU opposed, and the resulting plan that YOU oppose. It wasn't YOUR idea to kill slam, DF proposed it long before you ever did. Why can you not even make a single post without saying something that is verifiably false?


Df and noobking healing hf.

Vivax and ff healing koshi.

None of that looks like df proposing a unanimous kill on slam I'm afraid.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 11 2018 21:19 GMT
#1529
Well if Moosy is town, the mafia medic is going to be on him.

If I die and Moosy isn't dead tomorrow, he's mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 11 2018 21:20 GMT
#1530
So glhf managing your actions in this time span scum
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 21:20 GMT
#1531
On March 12 2018 06:09 darthfoley wrote:
n00bking what do you want to do considering HF is not happening?

Hf should totally happen.

Kill HF > Kill Moosy > Kill Slam

If we can't get consensus on one of those, I would listen to an alternative plan of action, ahead of us all ganging up on Koshi or rsoul, because those ideas are ridiculous.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 21:20 GMT
#1532
On March 12 2018 06:18 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:06 rsoultin wrote:
HF is right that if we can't get to a consensus on who to nk that's 3 deaths instead of 2, and his proposal at least minimizes the hemorraghing. I actually like it, because I think the best way for mafia to play is to just kill one person if they don't want to confirm a medic.

He's only "right" about that because other players badgered him into admitting that his original suggestion was horrendous. It appears you're right about the deadline, so explain why letting mafia kill one person and forfeiting the vig shot is beneficial to us. We apparently have time to listen.


He's right that medics spilt onto two targets equals three deaths. Then we just hope one of those is the mafia in the claimed VT's. Otherwise it's already mylo tomorrow.

I prefer consolidation on one target. His plan is better than what was happening, is the point.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 21:21 GMT
#1533
On March 12 2018 06:19 Vivax wrote:
Well if Moosy is town, the mafia medic is going to be on him.

If I die and Moosy isn't dead tomorrow, he's mafia.

On March 12 2018 06:20 Vivax wrote:
So glhf managing your actions in this time span scum

Keep typing Vivax I want an explanation. We still have 40 minutes I don't see why you stop here
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 21:21 GMT
#1534
On March 12 2018 06:20 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:09 darthfoley wrote:
n00bking what do you want to do considering HF is not happening?

Hf should totally happen.

Kill HF > Kill Moosy > Kill Slam

If we can't get consensus on one of those, I would listen to an alternative plan of action, ahead of us all ganging up on Koshi or rsoul, because those ideas are ridiculous.


Well, HF is not going to happen so I guess you need to kill Moosy
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 11 2018 21:22 GMT
#1535
On March 12 2018 06:21 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:20 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 06:09 darthfoley wrote:
n00bking what do you want to do considering HF is not happening?

Hf should totally happen.

Kill HF > Kill Moosy > Kill Slam

If we can't get consensus on one of those, I would listen to an alternative plan of action, ahead of us all ganging up on Koshi or rsoul, because those ideas are ridiculous.


Well, HF is not going to happen so I guess you need to kill Moosy


???

If that's your attitude why not do it yourself?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:23 GMT
#1536
I think moosy is a bad kill and vivax looks bad proposing it.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 21:23 GMT
#1537
On March 12 2018 06:18 darthfoley wrote:
Wait so when are actions due then?

rsoul is right, the deadline for actions is still more than an hour away. Look at the post for the start of Night 2, and you can see how much time is left in the phase, and that it did not change with daylight savings time.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 21:23 GMT
#1538
FF not being here to at least get this nailed down is not giving me the warm fuzzies. Which is lovely because the last thing I need is more scumspects.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 11 2018 21:24 GMT
#1539
On March 12 2018 06:23 rsoultin wrote:
FF not being here to at least get this nailed down is not giving me the warm fuzzies. Which is lovely because the last thing I need is more scumspects.


I really hope FF is the mafia doc cause then the mafia doc can't kill Koshi while I'm on moosy.

Which means that moosy is scum if I die and he lives.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 21:25 GMT
#1540
On March 12 2018 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
I think moosy is a bad kill and vivax looks bad proposing it.


I hate his reasoning, that's for sure. He didn't remember something and asked questions!

Slam feels like a copout to me but honestly that may be our best option here. Assuming FF ever returns to thread.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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