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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 20:49 GMT
#1481
On March 12 2018 05:48 darthfoley wrote:
@vivax and @FF I'm down to heal Koshi


Just when I changed my mind.
I kinda think he's town now.

On the other hand I'm getting the feeling that Moosy is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 20:49 GMT
#1482
On March 12 2018 05:46 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
Every medic heal a different person please. Noobking is incapable of doing anything with respect to following his own plan he keeps needlessly touting. Has he coordinated anything? Nope. Not at all. Nobody is convinced on me, nobody wants to lynch moosy. His plan right now is to get df to heal me so he can get a free kill on me and hope ff/vivax heal someone different and he nks someone else.

Let me just reiterate IN THE CURRENT PATH YOU ARE TAKING YOU COULD END UP KILLING THREE SEPARATE PEOPLE AND 2 OF THOSE WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT BE TOWN.

EITHER COME TO A CONSENSUS OR HEAL SEPARATE TARGETS.

EVERYTHING I'm doing is to try and generate that consensus, including shouting down each of your asinine "let's help the mafia, guys!" suggestions. Didn't I just ask Vivax about how anything you're doing could be perceived as helpful? That's so I can try to get him to join me in killing you. I'm coordinating with Fecalfeast all I can at the moment, he's NOT HERE. DF asked who I wanted to die, I told him. What more could I be doing to coordinate the medics?

You talk about how the current path could result in 3 deaths, 2 sure to be town. I'm not advocating the current path though, am I? I've already agreed that splitting the kills is bad. And YOUR first suggestion for how to handle the night phase would likely also have ended in 3 deaths, ALL of them town. NO ONE has had an idea worse than yours.


You are not night killing me. I am not mafia. Your consensus is failing and nobody agrees with your case. Your case is piggy backed off of rsoul's case that she doesn't even believe anymore. She has given you meta from ONE GAME AGO and so has Koshi that disproves your entire case. Rsoul said I push anti town stuff as town non-stop. Koshi said he's angry and I'm being shit and pushing anti town stuff and that's my town meta but you're absolutely adamant about incorrect facts that it's just bad.

You can't kill me right now. You're not convincing. You have no pull. Pick another target that everyone is happy with and reach a consensus. Don't be blind and yell at a brick wall. Your day 1 on tubesock you abandoned because nobody was following you and it was dead but now here you are again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 20:50 GMT
#1483
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 20:51 GMT
#1484
On March 12 2018 05:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:48 darthfoley wrote:
@vivax and @FF I'm down to heal Koshi


Just when I changed my mind.
I kinda think he's town now.

On the other hand I'm getting the feeling that Moosy is mafia.


LoL
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 20:51 GMT
#1485
On March 12 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
And i've been down for a Slam kill as I've said.

Don't love it (obviously), but whatever. I guess we can hope.

Vivax, are you on board? FF (if you show up) are you on board?

MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 20:51 GMT
#1486
I'm going to be completely honest and say I actually have no clue what people are talking about with setups. But I think we should try and get together for at least a vague idea of what we're going to do. Personally speaking I would still prefer to kill noobking and koshi.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 20:52 GMT
#1487
I think Moosy just in the last hours got into the thread thinking how cool it'd be to try and look active while forgetting to actually read anything so he just started posting questions out of his bum about topics I've been posting about nonstop.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 20:53 GMT
#1488
On March 12 2018 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.

Pointing out the FACT that you are actively trying to reduce the town's win % is NOT semantics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 20:54 GMT
#1489
But actually I didn't answer one question of his simply cause I have no answer. Among the medic claims I can't pinpoint the scum one. I thought it'd be DF earlier tonight but now I think it's FF
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 20:54 GMT
#1490
Thank god FecalFeast is a supposed town role who doesn't give a shit about this game!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 20:55 GMT
#1491
We have that 30 min grace period so we have 35 minutes to figure out what the hell we're doing.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 20:55 GMT
#1492
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?user=n00bKing&view=all

for reference
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 20:55 GMT
#1493
On March 12 2018 05:52 Vivax wrote:
I think Moosy just in the last hours got into the thread thinking how cool it'd be to try and look active while forgetting to actually read anything so he just started posting questions out of his bum about topics I've been posting about nonstop.

hmmm and what questions would these be?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 20:57 GMT
#1494
On March 12 2018 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Can the medics please say who they are on and who they think is the fake scum? That would be much appreciated thank you.


I think Vivax could be fake scum.

FecalFeast's inability to do anything makes me want him to fall off a cliff though.

Okay so possible mafia in claimed medics is vivax and fecalfeast. Who are you healing atm?

Other claimed medics @noobking, @fecalfeast, @vivax, who are you guys healing atm and who do you think is scum.


On March 11 2018 19:42 Vivax wrote:
Kelsiers strategy of trying to skate on big puppy eyes didn't quite work. Good, good.

##Vote: Koshi


On March 11 2018 20:01 Vivax wrote:
But objectively Koshi is right this is the best way to play the game.
I don't think any of his advice makes him town. He's still cold as ice and not very organic while he posts useful things.

I'm going to be healing Koshi, if one medic claims to be backing me up the other can go for a save at his own discretion, with the roleblocker down.


On March 11 2018 20:13 Vivax wrote:
I think I like Koshi/DF for remaining mafia very much, a bit on a whim. Having taken issue with Damdreds and DFs D1 posts already I'd love to have been right about suspecting them at that point already.


On March 11 2018 20:17 Vivax wrote:
Why am I doing what only, I want? FF posted that he's cool with healing Koshi, I'm cool with healing Koshi as well. So we can healkill Koshi both and Noobking and df can claim to be doing whatever.

If Koshi flips scum that also clears me and FF and the next days one of Noobking or DF flips mafia, or one of them claims to have healed Koshi as well and we lynch him.

I'm going to heal Koshi, now to wait what the other medic claims claim to be doing.


On March 12 2018 02:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 02:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
DF i'll team up with you who are we giving the lethal injection


Ah so killing Koshi now suddenly isn't as nice to you as you made yourself sound? Please explain.


On March 12 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
So I post 3 minutes away from FFs last post and he still hasn't replied.

HF you agree on Koshi being the kill or do you have another idea?


On March 12 2018 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Ok so me and ff on koshi. Not a fan of plans to kill HF, but it comes down to df/noobking.


On March 12 2018 05:01 Vivax wrote:
Why aren't df and noob in thread to coordinate?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 20:58 GMT
#1495
I could pull out the posts from FF as well if you like.

You deserve to be killed for that post moosy.

Who's on board?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 20:59 GMT
#1496
On March 12 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.

Pointing out the FACT that you are actively trying to reduce the town's win % is NOT semantics.


You have a chip on your shoulder and you're arguing with your mafia read. If I am mafia it is my exact goal to find the most favorable setup for mafia to win. I think not getting people killed and maximising that ability should be my ultimate goal. None of this factors into anything you say. You literally just spent three pages quoting my posts and contradicting what they say just to say "oh that's not the MOST town favoured it's what favours you the most!" Not once did you call me mafia for pushing this mafia strategy or anything. It is in fact semantics you are arguing. The minutiae about a plan and correcting it instead of using it as ammo to further your case is what makes me think you're very much mafia.

At the end of the day I say we should nk slam and df agrees and you just go "Fine, let's nk slam. It's not optimal but I'll do it." THIS IS A KILL THAT I JUST PROPOSED AND YOU ARE FINE JUMPING ON IT.

I don't believe this is a town noobking that doesn't think these things through fully. I think this is a mafia noobking feeling dejected and trying to just argue for the sake of arguing and then hopping on what he can.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 21:02 GMT
#1497
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 12 2018 05:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Can the medics please say who they are on and who they think is the fake scum? That would be much appreciated thank you.


I think Vivax could be fake scum.

FecalFeast's inability to do anything makes me want him to fall off a cliff though.

Okay so possible mafia in claimed medics is vivax and fecalfeast. Who are you healing atm?

Other claimed medics @noobking, @fecalfeast, @vivax, who are you guys healing atm and who do you think is scum.


Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 19:42 Vivax wrote:
Kelsiers strategy of trying to skate on big puppy eyes didn't quite work. Good, good.

##Vote: Koshi


Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:01 Vivax wrote:
But objectively Koshi is right this is the best way to play the game.
I don't think any of his advice makes him town. He's still cold as ice and not very organic while he posts useful things.

I'm going to be healing Koshi, if one medic claims to be backing me up the other can go for a save at his own discretion, with the roleblocker down.


Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:13 Vivax wrote:
I think I like Koshi/DF for remaining mafia very much, a bit on a whim. Having taken issue with Damdreds and DFs D1 posts already I'd love to have been right about suspecting them at that point already.


Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:17 Vivax wrote:
Why am I doing what only, I want? FF posted that he's cool with healing Koshi, I'm cool with healing Koshi as well. So we can healkill Koshi both and Noobking and df can claim to be doing whatever.

If Koshi flips scum that also clears me and FF and the next days one of Noobking or DF flips mafia, or one of them claims to have healed Koshi as well and we lynch him.

I'm going to heal Koshi, now to wait what the other medic claims claim to be doing.


Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2018 02:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
DF i'll team up with you who are we giving the lethal injection


Ah so killing Koshi now suddenly isn't as nice to you as you made yourself sound? Please explain.


Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
So I post 3 minutes away from FFs last post and he still hasn't replied.

HF you agree on Koshi being the kill or do you have another idea?


Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Ok so me and ff on koshi. Not a fan of plans to kill HF, but it comes down to df/noobking.


Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:01 Vivax wrote:
Why aren't df and noob in thread to coordinate?


alright so one question. To which I responded with this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 12 2018 05:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Can the medics please say who they are on and who they think is the fake scum? That would be much appreciated thank you.


I think Vivax could be fake scum.

FecalFeast's inability to do anything makes me want him to fall off a cliff though.

Okay so possible mafia in claimed medics is vivax and fecalfeast. Who are you healing atm?

Other claimed medics @noobking, @fecalfeast, @vivax, who are you guys healing atm and who do you think is scum.


I repeated that stuff at least twice in the last 10 pages or something.

What are you doing Moosy?

Koshi/darthfoley if I am correct. I'm trying to get people to come to a consensus atm because currently I see a lot of argument and not a lot of attempting to work together.

But fair enough, halfway through day phase I did kind of start to faze things after it started to become clear we were playing setup. I don't think asking people to make sure they didn't change their mind is necessarily a bad thing though.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 11 2018 21:02 GMT
#1498
On March 12 2018 05:58 Vivax wrote:
I could pull out the posts from FF as well if you like.

You deserve to be killed for that post moosy.

Who's on board?

That's how he's played the entire game. I'll kill him anyway though, obviously.

DF, thoughts on Moosy?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 11 2018 21:03 GMT
#1499
But yeah I'm retracting my aciton on Koshi.

I think the other medic claims should take a look at moosy or sell me another target that isn't HF since if we aren't doing Moosy tonight I'm going to flip a coin between two targets at my discretion.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 11 2018 21:04 GMT
#1500
Moosy or Slam then I guess lol
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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