[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 84

On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever.

On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.

Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.

He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.

If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily.

On February 10 2018 09:05 ritoky wrote:
does new damdred quit/martyr as mafia or ever? cuz old damdred was extra tryhard when he had teammates.

On February 10 2018 09:05 ritoky wrote:
does new damdred quit/martyr as mafia or ever? cuz old damdred was extra tryhard when he had teammates.

On February 10 2018 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
How do you know martyring isn't try harding? Last game people were saying he doesn't give up like that as mafia so maybe as mafia in the next game he could use it to his advantage?

Who knows really, I just don't think he really plays like he is as town.

On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.

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The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.

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I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin
I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.

On February 10 2018 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not sure if you read the obs QT and his posts there, but that and two games in a row getting lynched for something that he feels like is stupid and noone listening to him i can easily see him doing that as town -- not really as mafia.

On February 10 2018 09:03 ritoky wrote:
i get why mocsta is probably town...the vote logic, the anger, the effort. i get it.

but idk the fake pm, the bolding slip, the hours of research on inconsequential points, the lack of stupid townie thoughts, the vacillating. it just wears you down.

On February 10 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
But how does damdred go from "Mderg isn't mafia now because of that vote that wouldn't save him" to voting rsoultin when she was doing the same god damn thing?