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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 10 2018 00:53 GMT
#1701
mh probably should have used "as of now" or id prefer those two or something. dunno. bed time.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 10 2018 00:56 GMT
#1702
On February 10 2018 09:46 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..

This is super scum?

dunno. im starring at this and am like... is it?
explain it as if what little brain i have had left my skull and is oozing out of my ear.
will read tomorrow
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 10 2018 01:03 GMT
#1703
On February 10 2018 09:08 ritoky wrote:
also prp, why you basically have 0 opinions?

gimme sum 1 liners.

I don't think I understand this game. Also, there are tons of people with tons of opinions, feel like I'd just clutter things up. And I'm eternal lynchbait no matter what I do anyway. So I just play however I like.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 01:04 GMT
#1704
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.

If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.

Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 01:05 GMT
#1705
Rayn you are now my shepherd
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 10 2018 07:43 GMT
#1706
On February 10 2018 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
I want rsoultin to make a case for me to vote rayn. And also explain damdred.


I don't know how to get people to understand it from my perspective. I tried. It's not in me to write the big shiny cases that amount to 'vote her for info she hasn't done anything townie'.

The thing is, the stupid reasons for calling people scum this game that Joni has
- I addressed him wrong! because I'd know he'd scumread me for that as town so would never ever do such a thing
- DF said he believed Joni was wrong and he should know whether Joni is wrong or not
- Mocsta posted coding and says stupid things

Are all totally reads I could see him making as town.

It wasn't as obvious to me Day one, but it's the weight of the reads that don't make sense at all. If nothing I do is townie and everything I do looks scummy or at best null, pushing for a DF lynch for that wording (while Joni could believe that makes DF scum as town) over me just never happens. Pushing for a mocsta lynch over me really never ever ever happens.

And it's hilarious that it takes me pointing it out and then he comes in and tries to claim that oh he was only being sarcastic for the last 72ish hours or so, he actually does want to push me now.

Joni is never town here. And if you can't see it from this, I don't think I can help you see it. The best I can do is flip so that you know this read is real.

Like I don't know why he left off pushing me. Maybe thread sentiment was making it clear that people weren't as certain on me. Maybe that's when mderg was being talked about more. Maybe he was out smoking and thought wouldn't that be fun for the lolz. I guess I can look back into that. But none of it matters at all.

Town Joni doesn't do this.

It's just like it was with Damerion. It doesn't matter if it was ideal or not if people simply don't do something as town.




Damdred incoming. I still have the best read on him on the site, so I owe you guys nothing less.

I'm not going to bother playing a game where a bunch of townies are too lazy to think about the game and try to find scum for themselves though. I'll give you at least one and you can bellyache about how bad I was this game if you want.

Way more fun to spend my last day with Lex before he goes back to work \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 10 2018 08:08 GMT
#1707
Before reads post.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2018 05:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:25 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


nope it was impossible for anyone else besides mderg.

What do you make of that?


You don't look nearly as bad as I thought but I'm still not sure why you decided to vote for rsoultin. Maybe i'm missing something.

Perhaps there was a bus that occurred, but it feels like it would've been so much easier to just kill rsoultin. That's what makes me think rsoultin could just be RB. Either way I think a vigi shot into rsoultin, if possible, would give a lot of info.



I just explained why i voted rsoultin. Sometimes i think you skip posta for lolz df.


On February 08 2018 07:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:48 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.

Tickles you furrher

So i bussed mderg 8 hrs from lynch with no need.. lol

Gtfo

The list was a disgrace. Much like this post


Firstly, I dont talk to people in a disrespectful way and I expect even if someone disagrees with something I said to speak to me the same way I would speak to them.

Now at the time I made this post I was not sure what way I was flowing and tried to interact with people about my reads.

So yes I thought you could potwnrially be scum for the way you are soft pushing me for being sick. And so I had no way of knowing wat mderg would flip. Which yes at least foe tommorow everyone on mderg is town.


On February 08 2018 07:15 Damdred wrote:
and seriosily mocsta on a nom game level reply if you feel disrespected about how i said something we can talk about it post game. I really do not understand what i said that was disrespectful but i dont play like that.


On February 08 2018 09:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:52 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.

But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back

What were you doing on Tina? Come on Damdred......

Mderg you attack and never get a satisfied answer from.
rsoultin you attack and townread after talking to her.

Who do you vote?
rsoultin


Come the fuck on bro.


Koshi your answers yoi just asked are literally already in my filter. Way to cherry pick though.

I grill mderg and he literally comits suicide by voting off of tina and gives himself the only shot of being lynched.

I explained to tina amd df I believe in my filter I did not believe mderg would flip scum and I consolidated on tina.

And out of Tina and Mderg, mderg looked more townie doing whatever and he is going to die then tina doing the same thing and not being in danger.


After reads post:
[spoler]
On February 09 2018 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Well Damdred is going for the 2 mafia make themselves look like utter shit to vote on the third mafia scenario.

On February 09 2018 01:18 Damdred wrote:
i had things typed out but i dont feel like fighting with koshis ego or why he treats everyone like aecondary citizens.

Anyway lunch with brandi be bacl
[/spoiler]

Computer says town.

Between mocsta and koshi's attitudes beforehand and others not reading, the reaction makes sense. Totally wouldn't at all otherwise. Ian is trying to be less emo in his town games and is fully aware that these emotions are hard for him to replicate as scum (which yes, translates to knowing he needs to make emo posts as scum). Further, they don't actually link to people scumreading him. They link to people putting him down and not paying attention to his reads.

Ciao folks. Good luck.

HF will be confirmed when I flip town.
Never lynch Damdred.

Always lynch Joni next. (And if you guys honestly think that case that wasn't a case just a longwinded explanation of why lynching me would help you know where to look for scum - duh! see any game literally ever played - I don't know what to say. Maybe it's the town I deserve after my craptastic early D1 this game.)

Not sure who the second is, probably wouldn't be right anyway.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 10 2018 08:09 GMT
#1708
On February 10 2018 17:08 rsoultin wrote:
Before reads post.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2018 05:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:25 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


nope it was impossible for anyone else besides mderg.

What do you make of that?


You don't look nearly as bad as I thought but I'm still not sure why you decided to vote for rsoultin. Maybe i'm missing something.

Perhaps there was a bus that occurred, but it feels like it would've been so much easier to just kill rsoultin. That's what makes me think rsoultin could just be RB. Either way I think a vigi shot into rsoultin, if possible, would give a lot of info.



I just explained why i voted rsoultin. Sometimes i think you skip posta for lolz df.


On February 08 2018 07:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:48 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.

Tickles you furrher

So i bussed mderg 8 hrs from lynch with no need.. lol

Gtfo

The list was a disgrace. Much like this post


Firstly, I dont talk to people in a disrespectful way and I expect even if someone disagrees with something I said to speak to me the same way I would speak to them.

Now at the time I made this post I was not sure what way I was flowing and tried to interact with people about my reads.

So yes I thought you could potwnrially be scum for the way you are soft pushing me for being sick. And so I had no way of knowing wat mderg would flip. Which yes at least foe tommorow everyone on mderg is town.


On February 08 2018 07:15 Damdred wrote:
and seriosily mocsta on a nom game level reply if you feel disrespected about how i said something we can talk about it post game. I really do not understand what i said that was disrespectful but i dont play like that.


On February 08 2018 09:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:52 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.

But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back

What were you doing on Tina? Come on Damdred......

Mderg you attack and never get a satisfied answer from.
rsoultin you attack and townread after talking to her.

Who do you vote?
rsoultin


Come the fuck on bro.


Koshi your answers yoi just asked are literally already in my filter. Way to cherry pick though.

I grill mderg and he literally comits suicide by voting off of tina and gives himself the only shot of being lynched.

I explained to tina amd df I believe in my filter I did not believe mderg would flip scum and I consolidated on tina.

And out of Tina and Mderg, mderg looked more townie doing whatever and he is going to die then tina doing the same thing and not being in danger.


After reads post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 09 2018 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Well Damdred is going for the 2 mafia make themselves look like utter shit to vote on the third mafia scenario.

On February 09 2018 01:18 Damdred wrote:
i had things typed out but i dont feel like fighting with koshis ego or why he treats everyone like aecondary citizens.

Anyway lunch with brandi be bacl


Computer says town.

Between mocsta and koshi's attitudes beforehand and others not reading, the reaction makes sense. Totally wouldn't at all otherwise. Ian is trying to be less emo in his town games and is fully aware that these emotions are hard for him to replicate as scum (which yes, translates to knowing he needs to make emo posts as scum). Further, they don't actually link to people scumreading him. They link to people putting him down and not paying attention to his reads.

Ciao folks. Good luck.

HF will be confirmed when I flip town.
Never lynch Damdred.

Always lynch Joni next. (And if you guys honestly think that case that wasn't a case just a longwinded explanation of why lynching me would help you know where to look for scum - duh! see any game literally ever played - I don't know what to say. Maybe it's the town I deserve after my craptastic early D1 this game.)

Not sure who the second is, probably wouldn't be right anyway.


EBWOP: I can't spell spoiler ;o;
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 10 2018 08:39 GMT
#1709
On February 10 2018 08:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, can you summarise in one post where you are at.

all i can see is 13 pages of "yes he is scum".. "o sorry i was skimming"
A couple events by itself dont make you scummy; yet here we are on Day2, you dont have pressure, and there is no change in output.

if you truly are pressed for time, there is much analysis this cycle, of which your feedback is appreciated.

Scum between Rayn/df/damdred.

The much analysis I'm clearly not processing fully by skimming on phone. I'll read more thoroughly tomorrow and you can prod all you want then.

I was entirely transparent about not spending time on this these two days, so it should be obvious why I haven't been around.

Obviously my Damdred point was completely wrong, but I don't think that negates my Joni read at all.
not sure if coming back tina

Would like a final read on DF please.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 10 2018 08:55 GMT
#1710
On February 10 2018 17:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:27 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, can you summarise in one post where you are at.

all i can see is 13 pages of "yes he is scum".. "o sorry i was skimming"
A couple events by itself dont make you scummy; yet here we are on Day2, you dont have pressure, and there is no change in output.

if you truly are pressed for time, there is much analysis this cycle, of which your feedback is appreciated.

Scum between Rayn/df/damdred.

The much analysis I'm clearly not processing fully by skimming on phone. I'll read more thoroughly tomorrow and you can prod all you want then.

I was entirely transparent about not spending time on this these two days, so it should be obvious why I haven't been around.

Obviously my Damdred point was completely wrong, but I don't think that negates my Joni read at all.
not sure if coming back tina

Would like a final read on DF please.

Don't know, don't care. Joni is scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2018 09:16 GMT
#1711
You are all insane. There are cases in this thread that make damdred the lynch. Even if hebis town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2018 09:19 GMT
#1712
And if you lynch rsoultin you are completely mad. Her 3 names are correct.

Also notice as soon thread followed rayn, rayn suddenly opened up looking into other things. Dnu what it means but I noticed it. Maybe it is rayn/df. Makes a lot of sense I guess.

Still lynching Damdred for crimes against humanity.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 10 2018 09:26 GMT
#1713
Look to be honest.
Im assuming Rayn is cop and checked Damdred.

I just dont get how someone can pronounce him town THAT fucking strongly.

Or he is scum and knows Damdred is town.

I didnt really want to say it, but, fuckn, i have to peace out 8hrs before lynch. I dont want to leave my vote with this type of uncertainty.

Theres very little consolidation this game, and it feels like d2 will be a repeat (where a flurry of votes will land in last 5 minutes). That is concerning; as mafia may be commanding 2 of those votes.

The other problem with last 5 minute vote swings is that, in the heat of the moment, logic drops out the window. and then we persecute people for that. I dont like it. volatile environments create volatile decisions.

Im going to a party tonight, so this is probably my last post.
Im leaving it on rsoultin.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
February 10 2018 09:30 GMT
#1714
Day Two Vote Count


Damdred (2): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi, rsoultin, disformation
rsoultin (3): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion
raynpelikoneet (1): rsoultin
Conversion (1): prplhz
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet

Not Voting (4): Damdred, ritoky, darthfoley, disformation

rsoultin is currently the designated lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, Feb 10 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2018 10:01 GMT
#1715
sheeped koshi, swore i did earlier
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2018 11:55 GMT
#1716
On February 10 2018 18:26 Mocsta wrote:
Look to be honest.
Im assuming Rayn is cop and checked Damdred.

I just dont get how someone can pronounce him town THAT fucking strongly.

Or he is scum and knows Damdred is town.

I didnt really want to say it, but, fuckn, i have to peace out 8hrs before lynch. I dont want to leave my vote with this type of uncertainty.

Theres very little consolidation this game, and it feels like d2 will be a repeat (where a flurry of votes will land in last 5 minutes). That is concerning; as mafia may be commanding 2 of those votes.

The other problem with last 5 minute vote swings is that, in the heat of the moment, logic drops out the window. and then we persecute people for that. I dont like it. volatile environments create volatile decisions.

Im going to a party tonight, so this is probably my last post.
Im leaving it on rsoultin.

Oh... rayn greenchecked Damdred. Ok. If that is the case rayn pls claim. If you are town. And damdred is green. 0% chance we lose this game
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2018 12:09 GMT
#1717
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Maybe I do this weird thing off voting my biggest scumread
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 10 2018 12:38 GMT
#1718
hmmmm...
yeah, sheeping hf, koshi and ritoky sounds like a super good plan.

if rayn isn't cop with a green on damdy that is.
On February 10 2018 10:04 Conversion wrote:
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.

If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.

Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress

well prpl has this "nah I don't care what any of you guys think, I ll put the little time I have into finding/voting who I think is scum and don't care how that makes me look" vibe. not easy to give this little amount of fucks as scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 13:14 GMT
#1719
I'm not going to bother playing a game where a bunch of townies are too lazy to think about the game and try to find scum for themselves though. I'll give you at least one and you can bellyache about how bad I was this game if you want.

Way more fun to spend my last day with Lex before he goes back to work \o/


This is totally bull shit because literally the past 2 fucking cycles have been people playing and trying to find mafia. All of today has been me posting good points against damdred and people talking about it. Super disingenuous just because nobody listened to you posting 0 cases or points other than this isn't town rayn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 13:19 GMT
#1720
I also don't agree with your rayn points at all. I think he always pushes those kind of slips above his scum reads in every game I play with him. It brings me back to his vivax case in paint mafia where he was scum reading someone else and then vivax posted some logic error and he went full gung ho on him. It's just what rayn does imo.

I also don't think rayn looks at games in the way he has been as mafia. I don't see him try and break games like that unless he's town usually. I could be wrong but from my experience I don't find that to be the case.

If damdred is town though and there's such a convincing case on him that only rayn and rsoultin can't see it begs the question why isn't his wagon so much larger?
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