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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 23:14 GMT
#1641
rsoultin, can you summarise in one post where you are at.

all i can see is 13 pages of "yes he is scum".. "o sorry i was skimming"
A couple events by itself dont make you scummy; yet here we are on Day2, you dont have pressure, and there is no change in output.

if you truly are pressed for time, there is much analysis this cycle, of which your feedback is appreciated.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 09 2018 23:21 GMT
#1642
This thread is moving really fast.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:22 GMT
#1643
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:27 GMT
#1644
On February 10 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, can you summarise in one post where you are at.

all i can see is 13 pages of "yes he is scum".. "o sorry i was skimming"
A couple events by itself dont make you scummy; yet here we are on Day2, you dont have pressure, and there is no change in output.

if you truly are pressed for time, there is much analysis this cycle, of which your feedback is appreciated.

Scum between Rayn/df/damdred.

The much analysis I'm clearly not processing fully by skimming on phone. I'll read more thoroughly tomorrow and you can prod all you want then.

I was entirely transparent about not spending time on this these two days, so it should be obvious why I haven't been around.

Obviously my Damdred point was completely wrong, but I don't think that negates my Joni read at all.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 09 2018 23:32 GMT
#1645
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:33 GMT
#1646
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.

So you figured out your mistake after I pointed it out did you scumpelikoneet?

I was expecting a reaction like this far sooner. Let's rumble!

@thread lynch me first of you have to, then lynch rayn for not soon this in the first place because he's scum, know I'm town and doesn't actually care who is scum this game.

I'll take tomorrow finding the third for y'all
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:33 GMT
#1647
Another ironical thing is that people are called mafia because they didn't vote for mafia, without knowing rsoultin's alignment. If rsoultin is in fact mafia suddenly people who voted for rsoultin are just as fucking townies than almost everyone else in the game. I can deal with being called being wrongor bad when i am wrong but not when i don't even know if i was wrong or not. Making voting analysis without knowing rsoultin's alignment is RETARDED, and the way D1 ended NEVER EVER suggests in ANY WAY that rsoultin is town. Never. Fucking. Ever.

Yet Koshi already shits on people because they were wrong and he was right.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:34 GMT
#1648
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 09 2018 23:34 GMT
#1649
I also think rsoultin is a good vote too. No idea where she's at on any read whatsoever. My case about her conversion read day 1 still stands and her mderg read progression is even worse.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1650
On February 10 2018 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1651
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia.
I won't bite because i don't have time for it.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:36 GMT
#1652
On February 10 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.

Doesn't matter. Lynch Joni after I flip town. It's on you if you don't and you can't blame me at that point.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1653
On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia.
I won't bite because i don't have time for it.

-pokes- I'm going to bed actually.

Please note folks that he only started this after I called him out for it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:38 GMT
#1654
On February 10 2018 08:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.

Doesn't matter. Lynch Joni after I flip town. It's on you if you don't and you can't blame me at that point.

Why don't you just counter the case since obviously that's bad because i am mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 09 2018 23:39 GMT
#1655
On February 10 2018 08:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.

Doesn't matter. Lynch Joni after I flip town. It's on you if you don't and you can't blame me at that point.


But you've given absolutely 0 reason for me to lynch him over you so why would I? I'm still waiting on the damdred posts too.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:43 GMT
#1656
Actually to be fair it seems like Mocsta made a copule of townie posts lately, but only a couple.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:45 GMT
#1657
On February 10 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Rayn is absolutely not town and I'll Lord it over you forever (Or until I forget lol)


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.

Doesn't matter. Lynch Joni after I flip town. It's on you if you don't and you can't blame me at that point.


But you've given absolutely 0 reason for me to lynch him over you so why would I? I'm still waiting on the damdred posts too.

And you will until tomorrow.

I don't disagree with lynching me. It's best for town. I know I'm town, and he wasn't pushing for my lynch when he claimed I was definitely scum. I call him on it, suddenly it starts.

Lynch me first. Then lynch him. Simple.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 09 2018 23:47 GMT
#1658
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever.
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 09 2018 23:47 GMT
#1659
the emotional side of me wants to lynch mocsta.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 23:50 GMT
#1660
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.

Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.

He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.

If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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