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Not asking for past posts as much as what's compelling to you at this moment. Doesn't have to be a long answer, a short summary is fine. | ||
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I'm not really sold on ritoky being mafia. I guess I'm not confident in him either way, he's been reminding me of Outlaw Mafia I believe it was. He's been lazy and underwhelming but I don't see why that makes him mafia at this time. | ||
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With Koshi, I don't like how he's voting for mderg but hasn't said any reason why. He did however say why he doesn't like prplhz (which pending explanation I don't think was a good reason). If he wants to lynch mderg, why wouldn't he explain why? Or if he is suspicious enough of prplhz to explain it, why doesn't he vote for him? In addition, he went from leaning town to green, bold town on rsoultin for seemingly no reason. The reasons he gave to fully townread rsoultin were present from the very start of the game, when Koshi left rsoultin out of his first set of townreads and only later made her even a town lean. Rsoultin didn't say much at all in between these posts, certainly little to warrant a read switch like that. But I know that it's Koshi. What do others think about him? | ||
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On February 07 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote: Well, I have at least stated why I see it that way. Care to explain why I'm wrong in that? See here, here. If anything recent posts have only supported my suspicions IMO.Trfel's "reason" to scumread me is lame as fuck and is also not true in the slightest I'm happy to listen but you've got to give me some sort of anything, really. | ||
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On February 07 2018 09:31 Holyflare wrote: Nothing from rsoultin, no one really pushing anything else...Also I'm officially at peak this wagon is going too fast levels. @Mocsta, I was slightly town on rsoultin, as seen here. I was convinced by Conversion's reasoning, what he said made a lot of sense to me. Koshi posted his new read change with old reasoning from the start of the game. To me that's suspicious. You can think of me what you want, I'm just curious what you think of Koshi. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:09 Mocsta wrote: I said that because I don't really care to talk much about my alignment, just wanted to make sure that you knew that was all I had to say on the matter.This type of comment makes me paranoid as it seems very preemptive. I pinged you about rsoultin because you "snuck" a vote in, but nothing was stated in thread. I cant recall anythign Koshi has posted other than some old filters I ignored. Will update opinion once I conclude re-read. What do you think about ritoky, as well? I'm not sure I'm townreading him strongly any more but even though he's been pretty lazy I still kinda think he's town. I don't like that he seems so self-focused, spends so much time talking about himself instead of the game, but his reads seem to show actual thought, which I do like. I don't really like how Koshi is townreading rsoultin but not really doing anything at all about the lynch. Heck, I'd say Holyflare and you are doing more to avoid a rsoultin lynch despite scumreading her than Koshi is and he's townreading her. Like if I was happily confident in a small pool where mafia were, and was voting for one, and had a strong townread who was being lynched, I'd be much more passionate about it than what Koshi is doing. Feels like he's setting up a potential "I told you so" after the flip. And if it's not clear I'm not a big fan of the rsoultin lynch right now... Not sure what is better, if anything. Not that I'm not suspicious of rsoultin but the way the day has been playing out makes me very hesitant. | ||
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Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg. Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads. But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up. | ||
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Koshi's actually playing the game, which is great, but makes me less inclined to lynch him. Been avoiding thinking about darthfoley. Feel so lost  I'll try and figure out what's going on but if someone wants to talk about something let me know. | ||
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On February 07 2018 15:50 Mocsta wrote: Yes, I changed my mind on Conversion because of his post on rsoultin (primarily that anyway). Conversion's analysis was good, regardless of rsoultin's alignment. He's been underwhelming since then, but I'm fine with him as town for now.trfel, i will get back to you tonight on those reads - i havent had the time at work today i was intending. I want to ask you some more questions, but im concerned they are already answered in the thread (e.g. i didnt realise conversion made addition points about rsoultin as you ?alluded? before) However, I am immediately curious about your position conversion. Yesterday he was a scum lean. Today, I assume you changed your mind because of his rsoultin rationale. And voted rsoultin. NOW, you have unvoted rsoultin; how does that influence the read on conversion? I do find it a bit weird that rsoultin says that her suspicion of Conversion wasn't her strongest read at the time (see here), but she voted for Conversion. Why are Koshi/Conversion/Mocsta/etc picking on mderg for having 10 scumreads? To me that seems to be a horrid misinterpretation of mderg's post. I only see him scumreading darthfoley, rsoultin, and Koshi. Is the argument that he's mentioning the things that make him suspicious of each person, focusing on reasons to be suspicious of people rather than reasons to townread them? I see nothing wrong with this. Not that I have a read on mderg myself yet, I just am not sure what this argument is saying. Conversion, rsoultin's read on me is heavily meta based. I can explain it for you if you'd like but if you really wanted to understand it you'd have to do a decent amount of reading and I doubt it would be worth it, especially since I haven't played in over a year and I've probably changed since then. | ||
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Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much. The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote. Does anyone else see that? @Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read. | ||
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I dunno about prplhz. I'm not a huge fan of him but I don't think he's anywhere near as suspicious as mderg given the point above. The main thing I personally find suspicious about prplhz is that it seems as if he is townreading rsoultin for towncredit. Prplhz, if you are there, why do you townread rsoultin? | ||
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On February 08 2018 00:53 mderg wrote: The last sentence, I don't see that at all in your filter. You've said that your townread on Mocsta is due to staying focused and not jumping around like he did last game as mafia.rsoultin read progression was something like: didn't like the serial killer post to rsoultin feels passive-aggressive, so doesn't look like town rsoultin. I guess that's pretty close to thread sentiment but I've never claimed that I didn't sheep. My townread on Mocsta is largely based on his rsoultin case. I think that says enough. On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote: To me this doesn't say anything about what you think about his case/read on rsoultin itself, it talks about the way he's pushing (focused, with direction vs opportunistic, pushing everyone). Still listening if I am missing something though.Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. Heading out for class, voting mderg for now. The above seems very inconsistent. Mderg also doesn't seem to care if people are making reads and sharing thoughts that he agrees with; it doesn't affect his read on the person who posted the thoughts at all. | ||
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 Didn't read the thread, may not for a while, but good work everyone ^^ | ||
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