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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 15:18 GMT
#2245
On February 13 2018 21:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
p1:
rayn scum
rsoultin scum
trfel town
df scum
rayn town

p2:
conv town?
koshi idiot

p3:
notes noone reading rsoultin town other than Koshi
"I don't think ritoky has made any posts he couldn't make as mafia in regards to reads"

p4:
"I might vote for mderg"

p5:
mderg flips




Yeah i don't quite believe Holyflare sheeped his "townreads Koshi and ritoky on mderg". Because there is absolutely nothing that suggests that he even townreads either of them, more like what he said about ritoky looks like a scumread to me.


Look at the time gaps between all those posts. Just because I don't post them every time doesn't mean I don't think it upon skimming. I also posted about sheeping my town reads when I lynched mderg so it's without a doubt not a lie.

quotes?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 15:27 GMT
#2248
On February 14 2018 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
His willingness to jump on every wagon presented. Didn't go on rsoul and not even damdred eventually after repeatedly saying there's many things that make him mafia.

but Damdred is not mafia if Koshi is so this is sorta bad case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 15:27 GMT
#2249
Also you just made a case of went on every wagon with the evidence of didn't go on any wagon.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 15:28 GMT
#2250
lol this is quite funny actually :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 20:12 GMT
#2426
Haha^^
Sorry HF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 20:17 GMT
#2434
Yeah Damdred was always going to be the lynch either today or tomorrow.

I am sad i can't be around during eod. The first time i had actually time to read eod1 properly was yesterday.

No more mafia for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 20:22 GMT
#2439
On February 14 2018 05:18 Mocsta wrote:
Im glad my bomb claim drew an rb

Srsly rofl?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 13 2018 20:24 GMT
#2442
On February 14 2018 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 14 2018 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 14 2018 05:18 Mocsta wrote:
Im glad my bomb claim drew an rb

Srsly rofl?

I thought he was being obviously faking blue to misdirect ;o; when he was just obviously faking. Rude.

He's just obviously Mocsta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 14 2018 15:15 GMT
#2484
4-irl day day phases work surprisingly well but you have to have silent nights and a scum favored setup because if there happen to be (a lot of) people who put in a lot of effort it's basically impossible to not lynch mafia with the time available.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 14 2018 15:37 GMT
#2486
It's kinda funny the obs qt suggested i read people scum because they were not logical since aside from one thing from disformation (the one where he entertained the possibility of me trying to "find another lynch" when the wagon i am voting in has 5 votes and noone else was even being discussed as a lynch -- and my "push" on df lasted a whole 20 minutes with basically noone posing inbetween).

If i was to lynch people who weren't being logical i would have lynched Conversion and Damdred. Ironically though, i didn't get Damdred as scum because i did the opposite.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 14 2018 15:47 GMT
#2487
I also agree with ritoky on Mocsta's posting. It really is very hard to parse what you find out to be important and what not because you write so much on everything. And i didn't comment on your posts just because i felt like almost everything you said had been said before, you jsut said it with more words. This was imo quite bad:
On February 09 2018 13:35 Mocsta wrote:
I REALLY HATE THIS exchange


On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).

On February 07 2018 20:29 mderg wrote:
Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game.
I just see no value in stating this to a town player.

The only motive I think that is acceptable is scum distancing.

On February 09 2018 20:03 Mocsta wrote:
seriously, im more than happy to lynch rayn first

will benefit thread regardless.

i dont care how tunneled you are.. even DF dropped his scum read on me after the mderg wagon.
rayn on the other hand.. this play makes sense to me as scum for 2 reasons
(1) He wants to shit up town atmosphere and thinks I will bite back
(2) Senses there are some ppl that would consider my lynch (e.g. ritoky and conversion)

its quite a safe play (very similar to what i decided to do with Holyflare on day2 of previous game).

I mean, you took a post that mderg made, made a conclusion that i am mafia BECAUSE of what mderg said, and then looked for something that will fit your conclusion. I think it's a wrong way to look at things.

The fact that i didn't even remember mderg making that post can be seen as scummy, but you turned the situation upside down and to me it looked like after that you were just trying to find stuff that supports your conclusion in a way that you just made up reasons why anything i did was scummy. Because honestly the points (1) and (2) are quite bad. I never did (1), and there was never any indication of (2) before i called you mafia. Also it's not a safe play to call someone who everyone townreads, mafia..... Also i am still very confused about the tags thing, i know you have explained it multiple times but i still don't understand.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 14 2018 15:48 GMT
#2488
Had you, Mocsta, just said "i would have expected rayn to answer mderg, maybe even read him as mafia, because mderg basically called himself scummy, but instead rayn ignores the commenct completely", that would have been okay.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 14 2018 17:41 GMT
#2491
On February 15 2018 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Could host a post-restricted game with longer days and nights so that people can play without needing to put as much time in if people are interested.


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On February 15 2018 01:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 15 2018 00:22 disformation wrote:
yeah i think that is why artanis mentioned post restriction imo. cause more time just means the active ones are posting more. post restriction might provide an incentive for me to think more before posting, but I also can see how post restriction can be a huge turn off.

edit: think i wouldnt mind trying something like rayn suggested. but fyi: will be on a two week vacation in two weeks, so i'll prolly wait until after that to play again.

A post restriction actually does nothing to solve the problem. The problem is the disparity of some people just not doing anything (prplhz) or very little and some doing quite a lot even though they are also short on time. You do not combat that by introducing a post restriction.


What about a modified version of BH's Twitterverse mafia? 5 posts/140 characters and normal cycles is extremely low but I think a few tweaks to that and it may not be a horrible idea. (for starters, plurality and not majority lynch and Palmar had some seemingly good ideas in that postgame) At least reading that prior game it didn't look too horrible.

The problem with post restrictions is that during certain situations it limits the players chances of doing shit (regardless of affiliation). Like if you have to prove you are not mafia and someone (or worse, like 4-5 players) ask you questions you cannot answer them all since you don't have necessarily posts to counter the arguments. Artificially "helping" the problem with things like "for the last three hours of day phase you are allowed to post as much as you like" kind of defeats the whole idea in the first place and it treats people with different standards because not everyone can be around at fixed times.

Basically post restrictions are just bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 15 2018 00:48 GMT
#2499
Ofc i wasn't flawless. And i know what i did wrong. At least i think i know. But its not what obs said if that's what youre referring to. Regardind Damdred i can do better but regardind mderg lynch improving would require quiting my job so unfortunately that's not gonna happen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 15 2018 01:48 GMT
#2501
I dont understand. It was literally pointed out that i should not focus on finding logical flaws which is exactly the reason why i didnt vote for Damdred last day, because i ignored logical flaws...

I am not sure why i should learn from comments like that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 15 2018 18:21 GMT
#2503
Mocsta had a better game than i did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 16 2018 04:25 GMT
#2508
Hi chaoser :o
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