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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:27 GMT
#441
On January 20 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Would you like more?


Doesn't matter anyway does it? Whether your change in behavior had to do with you not being home yet or not, when you clearly can read and post just the same...I mean honestly why [i]should]/i] I believe that? lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:28 GMT
#442
On January 20 2018 06:19 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:07 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:03 Damerion wrote:
It is Damdreds fault that I have developed any sort of meta read on him from just a few games. He can confirm or deny this of course which is easy enough to see.

Besides the like thing, I found that out on my own.

Besides that I have no real way to prove anything.

And as for Damdreds motivation, he is a swag type player making plays for the laughs post game. Perhaps he wants to push off a scum partner, or wants to confuse the vote count eod.


I'm not asking for proof in the sense that I want you to convince me that your meta read is right. Despite what I said to DF, I will openly admit that I 100% trust my own way of reading Damdred more than yours when I haven't the faintest who you are, and especially now that you say you've just cobbled this together.

What I want to know is where you're pulling your meta read from. You just put it together, so you should know. He does have a free-flowing game, but his build-up early looked like any free-flowing game I normally see from him. What makes it look different to you? What are you comparing it to that you see a discrepancy in?


Ive pulled it from reading past games, talking mafia with Damdred. I do not know what else to say other than that?

I do not feel like his early game was free flowing however, in fact his gameplay has been hyper static this whole game.


Examples of what you think makes his game hyper static, please. I can give you a hint and say that even a cursory glance through his filter doesn't bear that claim out for me, but maybe you have a good reason for thinking differently. We'll see.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:30 GMT
#443
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:31 GMT
#444
I will also admit that I don't get the btdt townread @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:33 GMT
#445
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?


No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is.

It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less.

Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:33 GMT
#446
Kelsier
Rsoultin
Rels
Damerion

Mderg
Prplhz

Df

Damdred
Mocsta
Btdt


Town
Townish
Scummish
Scum

No particular order in brackets. Prplhz is town.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 19 2018 21:35 GMT
#447
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:36 GMT
#448
On January 20 2018 06:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?


No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is.

It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less.

Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now.


I think it's fairly fucking obvious going from 1 post every 8 1/2 hours to a spree of posts in minutes after the general times of working hours is a normal thing for normal people to do. Unless you're saying my mafia play is gross inactivity.

I don't even know what the vote count is or who is even voting who tbh. Haven't looked at the vote thread since I voted.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:36 GMT
#449
I lied. Why is prplhz townish hf?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:37 GMT
#450
On January 20 2018 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:33 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?


No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is.

It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less.

Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now.


I think it's fairly fucking obvious going from 1 post every 8 1/2 hours to a spree of posts in minutes after the general times of working hours is a normal thing for normal people to do. Unless you're saying my mafia play is gross inactivity.

I don't even know what the vote count is or who is even voting who tbh. Haven't looked at the vote thread since I voted.

I'm not saying you weren't at work. I'm saying your motivations are unverifiable. I can't know if you've looked at the vote thread or not.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:38 GMT
#451
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.

Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:38 GMT
#452
On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT?


Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 19 2018 21:39 GMT
#453
On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT?


Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred.


Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:40 GMT
#454
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:40 GMT
#455
On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.

Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier.


No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists.

I already said that your reasoning was fair.

It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:41 GMT
#456
On January 20 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT?


Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred.


Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more


This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 21:42 GMT
#457
On January 20 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.

Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier.


No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists.

I already said that your reasoning was fair.

It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating.


Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:43 GMT
#458
On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?


For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read.

Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for
1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or
2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 21:44 GMT
#459
On January 20 2018 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.

Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier.


No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists.

I already said that your reasoning was fair.

It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating.


Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually.


No, I wouldn't. I've come to it means nothing anyway so it doesn't matter. I don't know why you're so focused on my saying I can't prove what you're thinking lol >< It should be obvious that's true regardless of what was going on at work or whether or not you were at work.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 19 2018 21:45 GMT
#460
On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?


I'm pretty sure it's 3way between btdt, me and damdred. a real kinky affair
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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