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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 22:17 GMT
#481
Yeeeah no, last two Damerion games, holyflare in both, Damerion's reads can be considered overall good but he neither
1) tunneled to exclusion or
2) was a town god

I will say, props to your town play Damerion, you really are impressive. Looking through your old games makes this one look pretty out of character to me, though. Which is the downside.

Also see no real scum reason for holyflare to misrepresent this but...don't understand why it doesn't match to this extent either @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:19 GMT
#482
Maybe HF is the best lynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:22 GMT
#483
On January 20 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol btdt and damdred are a team

On January 20 2018 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:09 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
This
Is
Not
Town
Damdred


No problem with lynching btdt or damdred. Now you're making noise. Didn't you dislike df before?


No I also dislike df but I won't lie and say that I've read anything he's said. Have no problem lynching him but I'm very very sure on damdred. No way he keeps both of these mafia reads for the whole game.


So why are you more fine with btdt than df? You didn't seem to be concerned at all about the btdt counterwagon and now you're yelling.


"now I'm yelling" should be translated to "now I'm actually home"

Btdt came into the thread saw votes and fucked off. Damdred also then tries to start a wagon against df siting that he just wants to get 2 votes and effectively leave. Damdred is definitely making me biased to prefer btdt (coupled with the apathy from btdt) over df.

But damdred lynch should one million percent be the lynch. Mocsta/btdt/damdred.

I don't understand this obsession of BTDT and Damdred being a team like it should be obvious. When Damdred is one of the biggest busser on the website. That reasonning makes no sense, and it doesn't prove BTDT and Damdred are a team.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 22:23 GMT
#484
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:26 GMT
#485
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:28 GMT
#486
On January 20 2018 07:06 rsoultin wrote:
Heroes of the Storm, and yes, Shockey. I'm not saying he wasn't scumreading most of the rest of the scum team or whatever cause he was. Thus pretty good reads. But not perfect. And hardly the I TUNNEL SCUM and nothing else picture.

Meta read out of nowhere, super sure...idk if you're this right maybe you do have an ego that size. But how does he come to at least some correct meta points but then apply them completely differently from me? Or is this the one game that Tina fucks up on Damdred's alignment majorly? It's not impossible. But some of his points being similar and with my generally good track record on Damdred, us applying them differently suggests he's wrong even if town and overconfident.

Mrt.


we have a winner
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 22:30 GMT
#487
On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.


Well, I'm not townreading him for sure. But I want to consolidate on not-Damdred so...

That's everyone on my original list of seven except you if I remember correctly. Who I'd vote over Damdred. I still don't like darth foley really but I remember not liking him anyway as town so that should be taken with a grain of salt. Damerion though...this doesn't read like his last three town games at all. And the meta's being applied wrong. I think I'd prefer his lynch over everyone now ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 22:31 GMT
#488
Sorry lex is laughing at my inability to leave the mafia game to play heroes with him. Bbl
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:32 GMT
#489
On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.


categorically false

I said btdt is mafia for being wagoned and then being apathetic to it and fucking off

it just so happens that damdred and btdt are a team too and then everything damdred did afterwards proves it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:32 GMT
#490
this game reads exactly like every damerion game ever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:33 GMT
#491
link me one that disproves this
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:36 GMT
#492
I don't understand why it's so fucking hard to lynch damdred when he's literally doing shit all and makes a post to appease people and fucks off again. It's really quite simple that this is nothing like town damdred at all.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:37 GMT
#493
Yep I really hate all of these.
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?

HF you're spending so much time defending against this accusation. Nobody else gave a shit.
Then later:
On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?

So you're fighting strongly for BTDT/Damdred to be lynched over DF but you have no idea why people scumread him. Makes no sense ot me.
Then later
On January 20 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.

AT ALL.

I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance.

Cool. Why ? But more importantly, it's super late compared to your strong stances about BTDT / Damdred in the posts above.
And this whole pointless explanation about how you didn't post before because you were working but now you can post is pointless.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:38 GMT
#494
On January 20 2018 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.


Well, I'm not townreading him for sure. But I want to consolidate on not-Damdred so...

That's everyone on my original list of seven except you if I remember correctly. Who I'd vote over Damdred. I still don't like darth foley really but I remember not liking him anyway as town so that should be taken with a grain of salt. Damerion though...this doesn't read like his last three town games at all. And the meta's being applied wrong. I think I'd prefer his lynch over everyone now ><

yeah I also don't like Damerion. In addition to what I've said earlier I didn't like that he came back just to tunnel Damdred some more. When in the other games I skimmed earlier he seemed to always have a more global view in mind
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:40 GMT
#495
On January 20 2018 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand why it's so fucking hard to lynch damdred when he's literally doing shit all and makes a post to appease people and fucks off again. It's really quite simple that this is nothing like town damdred at all.

I think I modkilled Damdred twice recently for activity. Or modkilled him once and warned him once. Him fucking off doesn't make him scum. Him doing kinda nothing D1 doesn't make him scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:41 GMT
#496
On January 20 2018 07:37 Rels wrote:
Yep I really hate all of these.
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.

What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.

Maybe I should be less active instead then?

HF you're spending so much time defending against this accusation. Nobody else gave a shit.
Then later:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.

Why are people voting df?

So you're fighting strongly for BTDT/Damdred to be lynched over DF but you have no idea why people scumread him. Makes no sense ot me.
Then later
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.

AT ALL.


POINT OUT WHERE I STRONGLY GO FOR THEIR LYNCH OVER DF LOL
I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance.

Cool. Why ? But more importantly, it's super late compared to your strong stances about BTDT / Damdred in the posts above.
And this whole pointless explanation about how you didn't post before because you were working but now you can post is pointless.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 22:43 GMT
#497
no idea where the text went but it said:

POINT OUT WHERE I FIGHT STRONGLY FOR BTDT AND DAMDRED OVER DF.

It's literally 2 fucking posts outlining legit points and then I read df and he looked fine
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 22:44 GMT
#498
On January 20 2018 07:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.

Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case?

no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.


Well, I'm not townreading him for sure. But I want to consolidate on not-Damdred so...

That's everyone on my original list of seven except you if I remember correctly. Who I'd vote over Damdred. I still don't like darth foley really but I remember not liking him anyway as town so that should be taken with a grain of salt. Damerion though...this doesn't read like his last three town games at all. And the meta's being applied wrong. I think I'd prefer his lynch over everyone now ><

yeah I also don't like Damerion. In addition to what I've said earlier I didn't like that he came back just to tunnel Damdred some more. When in the other games I skimmed earlier he seemed to always have a more global view in mind

From what I've seen his extreme confidence in his early scumread is pretty similar to his past games. He didn't tunnel as much but it doesn't seem that off.
I don't like his case and tunnel on damdred at all but his meta seems to be in line with his past games to me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2018 22:46 GMT
#499
I think damer is probably town?

its pretty close to how he tunneled on grack in his first game eh...

but yeah i think df is best lynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2018 22:48 GMT
#500
On January 20 2018 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
no idea where the text went but it said:

POINT OUT WHERE I FIGHT STRONGLY FOR BTDT AND DAMDRED OVER DF.

It's literally 2 fucking posts outlining legit points and then I read df and he looked fine

ez
On January 20 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol btdt and damdred are a team

On January 20 2018 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:09 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
This
Is
Not
Town
Damdred


No problem with lynching btdt or damdred. Now you're making noise. Didn't you dislike df before?


No I also dislike df but I won't lie and say that I've read anything he's said. Have no problem lynching him but I'm very very sure on damdred. No way he keeps both of these mafia reads for the whole game.


So why are you more fine with btdt than df? You didn't seem to be concerned at all about the btdt counterwagon and now you're yelling.


"now I'm yelling" should be translated to "now I'm actually home"

Btdt came into the thread saw votes and fucked off. Damdred also then tries to start a wagon against df siting that he just wants to get 2 votes and effectively leave. Damdred is definitely making me biased to prefer btdt (coupled with the apathy from btdt) over df.

But damdred lynch should one million percent be the lynch. Mocsta/btdt/damdred.

On January 20 2018 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol btdt and damdred are a team



But it also proves I'm smart and follow through with my thoughts. Past me was really good.

On January 20 2018 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
I don't remember why I typed that though but past me was clearly ahead of his time.

On January 20 2018 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 03:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
I come here, read just the top of page 17, and it's a btdt wagon. that's scum pushing afk btdt. I've literally been there, done that.

so anything I'm supposed to answer? I'm not catching up rn, im tired.


I think it's because I saw this and instantly thought he was mafia.

Now confirmed mafia damdred is pushing AWAY from btdt because "reasons" onto df for nothing?

On January 20 2018 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2018 06:16 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
Also, at anyone...

Do you guys know damerion to be this person who thinks he knows everything based off one game? There are people like that, and I don't want to tunnel the shit out of him based on a perception that no one should be that certain if he's just got the personality type. I just know me. Get a feel for someone. Check the feel against later games. Comment if necessary, otherwise don't. Adjust to results.

Become a wishy-washy black hole of doubt after being wrong a lot lol ><


Damerion has pushed a lynch on scum 100% of the time in every gamr I've played with him. He generally lives 3 ish days and all 3 days he pushes scum. He has correctly got scum about 12/12 times.


Not in the november game.

Games, please.


Stop wasting your time and brandishing your flagrantly wrong damdred read and vote him.

On January 20 2018 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Kelsier
Rsoultin
Rels
Damerion

Mderg
Prplhz

Df

Damdred
Mocsta
Btdt


Town
Townish
Scummish
Scum

No particular order in brackets. Prplhz is town.

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