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On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_-
All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything.
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On January 20 2018 06:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT? Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred. Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time.
I find this Damerion the town god image you paint EXTREMELY unbelievable. It's actually tempting to go back through his games. No one in my experience has ever been anywhere close to 100% right while tunneling one person every game they play. That's a ridiculous thing to even claim, hf.
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On January 20 2018 06:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:42 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.
Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier. No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists. I already said that your reasoning was fair. It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating. Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually. No, I wouldn't. I've come to it means nothing anyway so it doesn't matter. I don't know why you're so focused on my saying I can't prove what you're thinking lol >< It should be obvious that's true regardless of what was going on at work or whether or not you were at work.
Because my ultimate goal is to look towny enough to skate by and do nothing and you're ruining it.
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On January 20 2018 06:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT? Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred. Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time. I find this Damerion the town god image you paint EXTREMELY unbelievable. It's actually tempting to go back through his games. No one in my experience has ever been anywhere close to 100% right while tunneling one person every game they play. That's a ridiculous thing to even claim, hf.
Do it. He's 100%. Then lynch damdred.
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On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_-
Lol my reasoning on Mocsta hasn't changed. I just fleshed it out more fully. I was phone posting from school and then I had my planning period and was able to get on the PC.
1. Minutiae
2. Vague reads
3. Not being inquisitive and not pushing the game forward in any way
On January 20 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 05:13 rsoultin wrote:
I'm down with a darth foley lynch.
@df...still want my answers. I dream of lynching scum day 1. If you insist on calling one of the most townread townies in the game scum, have at it, but even if you think I'm scum, if you're town it may help sway others -shrugs- I don't care how you or other people react to my reads lol. I hope I have time later before deadline but I'm gonna be busy. I'm not sure what I didn't answer? Mocsta sided with the majority of people who thought Damdred was scum at a time when it was easy and low risk to do so. His other "reads" are vague and don't take any real stands. He reminds me of 30 page scum!Shapelog
I guess I shouldn't have made this reference but anyone who's seen Shapelog play mafia knows that all three of my points are how he plays and I was comparing Shapelog to Mocsta. (Obviously Mocsta isn't spamming in terms of post count)
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Like idk why rsoultin has such a hard time seeing the forest through the trees or whatever the saying is. My read on Mocsta is static because he hasn't done shit to change it. Why is that so hard to understand?
And all the other people who are on me have conveniently fucked off.
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On January 20 2018 06:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_- All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything.
We don't see things the same. Half of what he said about you when I talked to him was me asking to clarify how you were actually being constructive  Which is not defense, but explanation.
But my issue is not whether or not mocsta should be scumread anyway, but how df has been doing it. I think that's pretty clear.
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skimming through damerion's games he doesn't look much different from usual. I haven't bothered to check, if he was right or wrong in his reads, though.
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On January 20 2018 06:50 darthfoley wrote:
Like idk why rsoultin has such a hard time seeing the forest through the trees or whatever the saying is. My read on Mocsta is static because he hasn't done shit to change it. Why is that so hard to understand?
And all the other people who are on me have conveniently fucked off.
Eh I could be wrong, in which case I apologize for being a boob, but I feel I'm much less likely to be wrong on Damdred. So it is what it is.
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On January 20 2018 06:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:45 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_- All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything. We don't see things the same. Half of what he said about you when I talked to him was me asking to clarify how you were actually being constructive Which is not defense, but explanation. But my issue is not whether or not mocsta should be scumread anyway, but how df has been doing it. I think that's pretty clear.
It's a fucking explanation which is entirely a defence.
He can't have that read on me unless he knows that alignment imo.
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I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.
AT ALL.
I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance.
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I don't even see why he has votes at all tbh.
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On January 20 2018 06:51 mderg wrote:
skimming through damerion's games he doesn't look much different from usual. I haven't bothered to check, if he was right or wrong in his reads, though.
You should check. He's the mafia bonjwa.
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I'll be heading out on the road soon so I will only be phone posting from here until deadline. Idk if i'll be able to respond or keep up much i'm going to be but my reads are something like this
Town
Twat
Kmatt
HF
Rels
Mderg
rsoultin
prphlz
Damerion
Damdred
Kelscier
Mocsta
BTDT
Mafia
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On January 20 2018 06:15 darthfoley wrote:
Also @rels can you expand on why my read on BTDT is correct but the reasons are wrong? Specifically please.
Sure. You attacked him for 2 things: his HF read progression and because he said something like "let's lynch some AFK".
On January 19 2018 05:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 18:56 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 18 2018 18:39 mderg wrote:On January 18 2018 18:30 rsoultin wrote:On January 18 2018 18:24 mderg wrote:
I guess I shouldn't follow the general trend of making 1 or 2 posts and then disappearing into nothingness.
some minor townie points for rsoultin actually trying to play this game btw Much as that just warms me up inside, I'm way more interested on your thoughts on just about anything else this game. (Also, this is post #2. You haven't broken the cycle yet.) I'm out. Better things to do than stalk a half-dead thread. I'm disappointed in hf because the hf I know would be at 10 pages of filter right now. Mocsta looks like a crazy person, doesn't tell me anything about his alignment. Maybe someone has some meta knowledge. Everything else is a big ball of nothingness to me. Its a normal start for HF, youre giving him too much credit. No reason to be disappointed. The whole thing feels weird. Tina is having a good start, I like her. I also like hfs cream joke since it feels genuine, but that's pretty nai. Im eager to call out afkers and place some votes upon them to get them playing. BTDT strikes me as someone who's sort of just drifted through the game so far. Granted his filter is only a few posts, but the posts themselves seem careful not to step on any toes. The progression in this post is scummy to me 1. It's a normal start for HF, you're giving him too much credit. 2. HF's cream joke "feels genuine" (implied town read) 3. But it's NAI (so why imply a town read 3 words beforehand?) It just feels like a whole lot of hedging on HF. Show nested quote +Im eager to call out afkers and place some votes upon them to get them playing. This is basically the safest thing mafia can do ever lol. It doesn't ruffle any feathers. Have pressuring AFK people ever actually worked? They're AFK because... they aren't following the game. He also then ignores his own advice and throws a scum read on Mocsta. I'm not understanding his thought progression at all
- it's not his HF read "progression" that is a problem. There is no problem saying he feels a joke is kinda genuine, but being unsure about it. It was very early in the game.
- two things on the second part. First, everybody knows being like "let's lynch an AFK" and being passive is scummy. Saying it doesn't make anyone scum. Second, you then undermine your own point, since you say he acts differently that he said; so he should be townie in your POV ?
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...You exaggerated but he does seem to be good at reads.
I don't know where you're getting the 'he always tunnels one person to the exclusion of everything else' idea from. Certainly not his November game.
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wtf is his november game and was I in it?
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he has never got a read wrong in any game I have played with him
he always pushes a lynch on mafia
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Heroes of the Storm, and yes, Shockey. I'm not saying he wasn't scumreading most of the rest of the scum team or whatever cause he was. Thus pretty good reads. But not perfect. And hardly the I TUNNEL SCUM and nothing else picture.
Meta read out of nowhere, super sure...idk if you're this right maybe you do have an ego that size. But how does he come to at least some correct meta points but then apply them completely differently from me? Or is this the one game that Tina fucks up on Damdred's alignment majorly? It's not impossible. But some of his points being similar and with my generally good track record on Damdred, us applying them differently suggests he's wrong even if town and overconfident.
Mrt.
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I remember Damerion being impressive in one game, don't know which one. I don't remember him being tunneled on one dude though. Yet the totality of the posts he made this game are targeted at Damdred. He's so convinced, when I think he's partly wrong on his meta, with the part that Damdred is exagerating the fact that he busses all the time.
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