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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 10:39 GMT
#281
We'll just agree to disagree on Damdred and then I'll be right.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 10:41 GMT
#282
On January 19 2018 19:39 Holyflare wrote:
We'll just agree to disagree on Damdred and then I'll be right.


lol That's more or less the conclusion that I already came to. You're slow.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 10:49 GMT
#283
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.


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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 10:51 GMT
#284
On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new.

Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh.


The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts.

Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 10:53 GMT
#285
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.



soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 10:59 GMT
#286
On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new.

Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh.


The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts.

Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments.


Ok that makes some sense.

On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.



soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play.


So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 11:00 GMT
#287
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.




To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 11:10 GMT
#288
That's because there's nothing there!

I just remember knock down drag out bitch fights from him. Clearly not present here.

He says he's eager to play pre-game...where is that after game starts? He's not afk so that's not an explanation.

Don't agree on the holyflare read being good. Though maybe he's played with holyflare more recently than me and that's why. And townreading me this game (except maybe in twatty's case which is actually kind of cute) is hardly insightful.

The mocsta stuff is super weak. In the realm of people shitting on mocsta, which I didn't like in general, his has to be the worst.

On January 19 2018 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 05:05 darthfoley wrote:
On January 19 2018 01:21 Rels wrote:
I also don't like BTDT's first post. Feels weird.
I also don't like rsoul being the Damdred whisperer and being bothered with him but not poking him to get a proper read


Oui mon ami, oui!

connerie, mes amis


^ He was definitely here to have an opinion or comment on...anything. Just anything. Didn't. Although I did just look up the French and now I want to ask him what he was disagreeing with.

I don't put him in the same category as prp and kmatt at all.

Still fine with a darth folely lynch though. Devil's advocate says if BTDT is town he's an easy one to point fingers at, and that was df.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 11:13 GMT
#289
On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.




To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.


btdt is weak I would agree.

I think df was one of the first people to call him out on that which gives me pause because df is also scummy to me. his post about costa talking to much , I guess his town read of rels makes sense in retrospect if they both think btdt is scummy. but is that enough for a town read...maybe.

df twice talked about the damerion/damdred thing, didnt commit to one side and then tried to get an alternate lynch going. First one he said damerion was being too aggressive or confirmation biased and then said btdt was scum.

then he said he wasn't sure on damdred/damerion and needed to reread, but costa was scum.

basically not committing to anyside and trying to get some alternative lynch going. The costa one especially felt bad.

I think df or btdt is scum though.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 11:15 GMT
#290
On January 19 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:
That's because there's nothing there!

I just remember knock down drag out bitch fights from him. Clearly not present here.

He says he's eager to play pre-game...where is that after game starts? He's not afk so that's not an explanation.

Don't agree on the holyflare read being good. Though maybe he's played with holyflare more recently than me and that's why. And townreading me this game (except maybe in twatty's case which is actually kind of cute) is hardly insightful.

The mocsta stuff is super weak. In the realm of people shitting on mocsta, which I didn't like in general, his has to be the worst.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 19 2018 05:05 darthfoley wrote:
On January 19 2018 01:21 Rels wrote:
I also don't like BTDT's first post. Feels weird.
I also don't like rsoul being the Damdred whisperer and being bothered with him but not poking him to get a proper read


Oui mon ami, oui!

connerie, mes amis


^ He was definitely here to have an opinion or comment on...anything. Just anything. Didn't. Although I did just look up the French and now I want to ask him what he was disagreeing with.

I don't put him in the same category as prp and kmatt at all.

Still fine with a darth folely lynch though. Devil's advocate says if BTDT is town he's an easy one to point fingers at, and that was df.


Fair enough, I don't remember ever playing with BTDT so I will take your word on it. He has been weak , I would prefer to lynch df at this point but if nothing else is forthcoming from BTDT then he becomes a better lynch.
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 11:17 GMT
#291
On January 19 2018 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.




To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.


btdt is weak I would agree.

I think df was one of the first people to call him out on that which gives me pause because df is also scummy to me. his post about costa talking to much , I guess his town read of rels makes sense in retrospect if they both think btdt is scummy. but is that enough for a town read...maybe.

df twice talked about the damerion/damdred thing, didnt commit to one side and then tried to get an alternate lynch going. First one he said damerion was being too aggressive or confirmation biased and then said btdt was scum.

then he said he wasn't sure on damdred/damerion and needed to reread, but costa was scum.

basically not committing to anyside and trying to get some alternative lynch going. The costa one especially felt bad.

I think df or btdt is scum though.


Fair. Though Tina's brain goes, well, I've been doing that, too. But I suppose the difference is that I actually have a read on Damdred.

I wish I could say I had strong feels on either of them in terms of preference. Don't really. Let me just double-check df's filter to verify what you've said since my memory sucks before taking it on blind faith.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 11:21 GMT
#292
On January 19 2018 19:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new.

Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh.


The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts.

Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments.


Ok that makes some sense.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.



soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play.


So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?

I don't think all 3 of them are scum together. Both damerion and hf are in my would lynch because scummy pile with damerion being higher up in the scummy department.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 11:26 GMT
#293
On January 19 2018 20:21 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new.

Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh.


The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts.

Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments.


Ok that makes some sense.

On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.



soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play.


So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?

I don't think all 3 of them are scum together. Both damerion and hf are in my would lynch because scummy pile with damerion being higher up in the scummy department.


I personally don't buy that world. Where a scum makes a push on town damdred and then scum rels just shotguns in, but if there are scum on that push then your order makes the most sense. I'll wait and see what happens.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2018 11:27 GMT
#294
Eh, don't know. I could see those just being his reads, too, rather than a deflection from damdred/damerion to not have to take a stance. Think I still prefer BTDT?

If anything makes me agree on the mocsta bit as a deflection to not be on the wrong lynch, it's that there isn't much backing it to put his alternative through. Yeah in all honesty I liked it better when I was convinced holyflare was probably scum.

There's just not a lot separating the bottom feeders I'm left with when removing him from the lynch pool to feel overwhelmingly confident about a particular lynch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 11:39 GMT
#295
I guess BTDT works as a lynch . I suppose he has a high chance of flipping scum.

Mderg you are here , what do you think about a BTDT lynch?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 19 2018 11:45 GMT
#296
I have to head out so I will vote here for now. I think its ok but not really ok ok. I should be back for near deadline so can evaluate then.

##vote beentheredonethat
Zerg for Life
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 12:04 GMT
#297
On January 19 2018 20:39 KelsierSC wrote:
I guess BTDT works as a lynch . I suppose he has a high chance of flipping scum.

Mderg you are here , what do you think about a BTDT lynch?

I could consolidate on a btdt lynch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 19 2018 12:06 GMT
#298
On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.




To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.


I too get a ray of hope from mderg.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2018 12:11 GMT
#299
On January 19 2018 21:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.

Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.

I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.

I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.

I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.

with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.

At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.




To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum.

Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him.

Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.


I too get a ray of hope from mderg.

Who are you and what did you do to the real holyflare?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 19 2018 12:15 GMT
#300
the kids are asleep, the pinot is flowing freely and flume is on the playlist.
tis a good night!
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