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On December 14 2017 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 01:54 Arya321 wrote:
VE get on this Oats lynch dude i know you would feel safer with me being on it but still just do it. LS CATCH UP DUDE!!
Whoops didn't see your vote :o
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I can't sleep boys, I think I'm going to play Overwatch. I'm pleased with the state of the game. I can't wait to lynch HF tomorrow and not Forumite.
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On December 14 2017 01:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
<3
I can't sleep boys, I think I'm going to play Overwatch. I'm pleased with the state of the game. I can't wait to lynch HF tomorrow and not Forumite.
GL hf!
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On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum?
As I reread today I was scumreading both but it seems like a weird time for them to "pretend" to be at odds. That doesn't feel to me like two townies going at it. I'm going with my gut on this. Forumite may not be my favorite poster in the thread, but he's at least asking questions. Palmar durdled around without making any real reads (he made a few townreads earlier but made sure to tack on how "super weak" they were), then dumps his wall. Just seems very inorganic. Goes from zero to 99 to 100 on a guy.
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Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=Conversion
In that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong.
In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation.
On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in
On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting?
On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)
what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked
I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low.
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On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me.
why am I wrong on forumite. Explain in detail why he's town.
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On December 14 2017 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum? Well I mean they're not RANDOM! Palmar has made a case on Forumite since Matt started catching up, so like, there's a DICHOTOMY there that can only be denied by logic.
lol
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On December 14 2017 02:03 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum? Forumite may not be my favorite poster in the thread, but he's at least asking questions.
well now I know how to beat you as mafia.
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this is possibly the most bullshit reason for thinking someone is town ever. kmatt is now on my shitlist.
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On December 14 2017 02:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 02:03 Kmatt wrote:On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum? Forumite may not be my favorite poster in the thread, but he's at least asking questions. well now I know how to beat you as mafia.
The "at least" part was in comparison to you.
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On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=ConversionIn that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong. In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation. Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)
what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low.
Hmm. Does that mean I am bad?
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On December 14 2017 02:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=ConversionIn that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong. In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation. On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)
what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low. Hmm. Does that mean I am bad?
Mean you are wrong on him I guess? Will read conversion's scum game since we still got got 3 hours or so till EoD.
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Also Kmatt can you please read Oat's filter for me and tell me what you think of him please?
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On December 14 2017 02:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=ConversionIn that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong. In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation. On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)
what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low. Hmm. Does that mean I am bad?
It probably makes one of HF/DF mafia more likely.
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On December 14 2017 02:22 Arya321 wrote:
Also Kmatt can you please read Oat's filter for me and tell me what you think of him please?
None of his posts are individually bad, but there's nothing of value/interest in there either. He doesn't seem to have any reads or stances other than that Koshi and VE were playing "forced townie", not unlike what I said earlier. Other than that he's about as impactful on this game as any of the pseudo-afks (Grack, Oats, Ever). I'm still pretty new, so I don't know if that counts as scum play, but it definitely isn't town play. If he's our lynch today I wouldn't shed a tear.
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Oats' filter is pretty terrible. There's very little scumhunting direction and just a lot of sniping at other people's reads and calling other people bad.
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On December 14 2017 02:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Oats' filter is pretty terrible. There's very little scumhunting direction and just a lot of sniping at other people's reads and calling other people bad.
That's what was keeping me from townreading him from the start, those "bad read" posts. Is it bad because it was reasoned poorly, bad because you see it as coming from scum, bad because it conflicts with your own well-reasoned read? The world may never know.
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On December 14 2017 02:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 02:19 Koshi wrote:On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=ConversionIn that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong. In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation. On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting. this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game I did. It was not as glorious as advertised ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won? i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think. from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? On December 12 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
the way I see Oats is he makes a lot of weird aggressive posts early. it's what he does after that matters more (when I was mafia w/ him he opened the same way, but then starting being more passive)
what's your opinion on Forumite? I don't like the soft questioning he(she?) is doing without giving away reads unless asked I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low. Hmm. Does that mean I am bad? It probably makes one of HF/DF mafia more likely.
this is more interesting than my between DF/Koshi read, but idk if mafia!HF would expose himself so much by sheeping onto a town lynch like that. even in my head between DF/Koshi DF is way more likely to flip mafia if I go under the assumption that one person in the "Conv is mafia" case is mafia
can you explain your DF/HF split?
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no idea if that makes him town or not. probably going ot get slammed on by HF/Koshi/DF for doing shit that isn't calling him scum again tbh
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