EPTOn December 14 2017 00:18 Arya321 wrote:
I didn't go after chez lmao. That was Kmatt.
I didn't go after chez lmao. That was Kmatt.
yeah you're right, that is me getting people confused
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Palmar
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LightningStrike
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VisceraEyes
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On December 14 2017 00:02 Forumite wrote: I´d like to put Kmatt in the black list, I don´t see any reason why he should be considered town. I tried to find the genuine anger at VE defending his target, whatever. Not enough for me. On Koshi, what do you think is off with his play? I´d like to lynch Oats today, or Palmar unless he gets in here talking. Or Kmatt. Right now there are too many undecided. Last game as town Koshi did fuck all and was town. Maybe this is more his speed now, idk I refuse to go filter previous games of his because last I remember he just called people bad and stupid every game. There's a decided lack of bad and stupid this game coupled with a distinct difference between his last town game and this one. I refuse to townread Koshi today. Kmatt is mostly gut based on his reaction to my strong townread on him early on. I'm certainly not interested in lynching him today, so in that regard he stays green to me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On December 14 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote: Ya since my Arya account just got flood controlled I just doing 1 post here and hope it clears in about 1 hour or so. Palmar what makes you so certain that Forumite is mafia? lol | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote: This is actually kinda slam dunk here. I mean I'M waiting. I'm on a wagon with him and agree with his scumread. | ||
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Conversion
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I'd be okay with a Kmatt/Oats lynch today. I forget who my other scum reads were. I think I don't like HF's face but that's not a legit scum read | ||
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Forumite
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On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote: Would you mind elaborating? It´s not scummy to call me mafia but you´ve been quiet for a while and I just started throwing suspicion on Oats who´s gotten a few votes allready. Are you defending Oats, or are you setting up for an easy lynch on me D2? Actually, I'm not 99% sure, I'm 100% sure forumite is mafia. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On December 13 2017 16:10 Holyflare wrote: LightningStrike has made two accusatory posts this game. One that ve is weird/scummy for his oats read and one that I'm "stealing" a wagon on conversion and he doesn't lump me with koshi/df. When questioned on his scum reads none of those two things show up. That's scummy. I like this from HF, except it's also like, EXACTLY the kind of thing mafiaHF looks for from a townie. Further, he's basically saying that he thinks LS is scummy because he doesn't think I'M scummy, except HF has said that he thinks I'm forced and hasn't said anything about me being mafia all game. FUCKING WEIRD RIGHT? Anyway I also have kinda a mafia read on HF, but it's a legit one. It's nothing to do with his face. | ||
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Palmar
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As I was reading the back and forth and trash talking between conversion, hf, koshi etc, I started wondering "right, so some of them may be mafia, but they all care. If I am mafia, I let this happen but still feel the need to post". So I started thinking about people I remember posting, but don't remember if they said anything of value. I 100% admit that the first person I could think of filling the description of my supposed mafia was forumite. So I decided to read his filter, and that is when I said he's 99% mafia. The strong theme in forumite's filter is that he says stuff that mostly is just there to be around. It's not particularly investigative or contentious, but it is there. I'm gonna give a bunch of examples: I already had noticed this post: the reason it's scummy is because he specifically announces it's not his 1st pick. So any illusion of it actually being a pressure vote or whatever else bullshit you can think of is already shattered. It's completely pointless. In fact, he even apologizes for making this vote when I call him out on it. On December 12 2017 19:38 Forumite wrote: I know. I was just about to suggest HF when prplhz picked you and didn't want to divide attention. HF for later, you first. Do you have any thoughts on the setup and current blue/black-tells? Right, you can in theory argue that all this, and every post up to this in his filter is just trolling. The rest of his early filter are mostly random shitty questions with some tiny mechanics or role discussion thrown in. Like while I'm editing this a bit for effect, below is literally everything Forumite contributed to the game early on. On December 12 2017 06:00 Forumite wrote: Noone´s dead yet, planning to survive the first night? On December 12 2017 08:09 Forumite wrote: Hi prplhz. Are you scum or town? On December 12 2017 19:38 Forumite wrote: Do you have any thoughts on the setup and current blue/black-tells? On December 13 2017 07:05 Forumite wrote: Yes, that´s possible, but it doesn´t really give town-points unless Palmar is lynched and they lead the lynch. Why do you say it´s stupid? This is one of your first real posts in this game, and also full of WIFOM and a soft-defend on someone you are voting for. Would you please explain these two? None of this is actually valid scum hunting. None of this seems designed to lead anywhere. There is no follow up, no thread. Just random shitty questions. I kinda remembered this yesterday, so this post here: On December 13 2017 19:19 Forumite wrote: Hi Koshi. Is HF town? What is the case on Conversion? Around page 10 there were a lot of accusations towards him, is there any post in particular that started this? which is just a continuation of the same bullshit really struck me. He continues to sort of mull over the conversion thing which is actually the first thing he kinda follows up on, but again the tone seems super mild and overly diplomatic: Why, for example, does he repeatedly ask people to explain the case on Conversion or says he doesn't follow it. It's super clear (I think I quoted koshi's point about conversion and called it good yesterday). This is just a result of forumite either not reading the thread, or just posting shit so he can talk about stuff while pretending to know nothing about it so it's not suspicious that he's actually not contributing anything to the discussion at hand. He does end up making a call on Conversion's alignment, while still inviting more discussion on it without actually pushing his own alternatives all that much. To summarize, it's the mindset in forumite's posting that makes him mafia: 1) He asks questions with no intention to follow up or investigate the answers. 2) He makes alignment calls with no intention of using that information to move the game in a different direction It's a rather good case. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 14 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote: Ya since my Arya account just got flood controlled I just doing 1 post here and hope it clears in about 1 hour or so. Palmar what makes you so certain that Forumite is mafia? Just wrote the case. Reading the summary is enough, but I did decide to throw it all together in a large post for reference. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 14 2017 00:36 Forumite wrote: Would you mind elaborating? It´s not scummy to call me mafia but you´ve been quiet for a while and I just started throwing suspicion on Oats who´s gotten a few votes allready. Are you defending Oats, or are you setting up for an easy lynch on me D2? get out of your shell scum. Why on earth are you excusing me for calling you mafia. I'm fucking great at this, I should not be wrong when I'm convinced. If you're town you surely must consider I'm mafia. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 14 2017 00:34 Conversion wrote: I'm pretty wary of following Palmar's lynch after last game I'd be okay with a Kmatt/Oats lynch today. I forget who my other scum reads were. I think I don't like HF's face but that's not a legit scum read bitch I didn't read that one. I'm reading this one. I actually made a case. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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2) From where I'm sitting, he's voting for someone he's made an alignment call on. That quite literally moves the game in a different direction. Your case is fucking awful Palmar and it took you a really long time to bullshit through. What are you doing? | ||
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Conversion
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On December 14 2017 00:48 Palmar wrote: bitch I didn't read that one. I'm reading this one. I actually made a case. your case was pretty spicy. better than last game for sure not sure if I buy it 100% though. you and I agree on the same thing earlier, but have diverging views on the later half. probably because he's telling people to hop off my case and I'm biased because of that but I'm also wary bc he's doing what Oats is doing but less abrasive | ||
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Palmar
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On December 14 2017 00:49 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) I don't believe he has no intention of following up or investigating answers. For example he's repeatedly sought my opinion on things and I believe it's to do with the fact that I've answered him already so he knows I'll get to him. It's possible others are just ignoring his questions or the questions in question weren't really meant to be answered (a la "do you intend to live tonight?" and "are you mafia?" 2) From where I'm sitting, he's voting for someone he's made an alignment call on. That quite literally moves the game in a different direction. Your case is fucking awful Palmar and it took you a really long time to bullshit through. What are you doing? It's not asking questions that is the problem It's the intent with which they are asked, and the follow up that they generate. I know you like people who think you're smart enough to be asked about shit, but it really is a futile excercise. I don't really know his meta, maybe this is just what he does, but it's completely antiproductive. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On December 14 2017 00:49 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) I don't believe he has no intention of following up or investigating answers. For example he's repeatedly sought my opinion on things and I believe it's to do with the fact that I've answered him already so he knows I'll get to him. It's possible others are just ignoring his questions or the questions in question weren't really meant to be answered (a la "do you intend to live tonight?" and "are you mafia?" 2) From where I'm sitting, he's voting for someone he's made an alignment call on. That quite literally moves the game in a different direction. Your case is fucking awful Palmar and it took you a really long time to bullshit through. What are you doing? Anyone who is saying Palmar's case is good needs to answer these points for Palmar if he doesn't. Forumite MIGHT be mafia, but not for the reasons Palmar is saying here, and he's representing it as a good case. | ||
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