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The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 05 2017 18:06 GMT
#1041
Gonna vote for Ruxxar at this point. His posts recently have been really weird and he ignores posts and distorts what actually happened to fit his own views which I've already mentioned in my earlier posts. It also seems to be me vs him at this point and I know for a fact that I'm town but not sure about him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 05 2017 18:06 GMT
#1042
oh boy an oats lynch, I can already smell the victory
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 05 2017 18:13 GMT
#1043
On November 05 2017 04:20 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 03:41 ritoky wrote:
why exactly are you lynching someone who lynched mafia on a 4/4 split vote the subsequent day, even if by accident?


because he tried to swap out of the wagon, failed, and now is saying he didn't mean to lynch mafia

?? why would he even say that as town, and then try to defend his position on swapping off TT wagon. I would have just parked the vote on TT as town and gone "lol mafia lynch I'm good"


Wouldn't taking credit for it as mafia make more sense? I wanted to be honest about what happened so I told everyone how it was. A better question is why would I not take credit for it as mafia? Could it be that maybe I'm not mafia?
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 05 2017 18:26 GMT
#1044
Also Ruxxar and Conversion, I want to hear why all the arguments you made against me also don't apply to Conversion? His vote switch is even scummier because there was no accidental voting there, he wanted to vote against Ruxxar which would have saved TT. I asked him about it and this:

On November 03 2017 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Wow, okay. That was super good for us but I have to be honest, my vote on tick was just a mistake. I can't take credit for it at all since I originally just wanted to vote shock. But in case you guys didn't notice, CONVERSION JUST TRIED TO SAVE TICKTOCK THE MAFIA!


why would I switch onto ruxx literal seconds and risk not getting my vote counted (which happened exactly) if I was trying to save my scum partner? wtf?


On November 03 2017 07:25 Conversion wrote:
especially since TT flipped godfather.. why would I even risk him getting remotely closed to lynched and not vote earlier and push ruxxar hard?


I was the one that asked this and the reason I had no follow up is because what Conversion said here makes sense. And the same way it can used as an argument for me. What dosen't make sense is why Conversion now suddenly is pushing me for something that basically he also did.
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 05 2017 18:30 GMT
#1045
On November 05 2017 05:03 ritoky wrote:
i don't buy what you're selling.

you say he made it up, when clearly he is being honest. he either accidentally'd a mafia as town or accidentally'd his partner; but i think it is pretty clear he is being honest.

you say his admission makes no sense as town, when it quite obviously makes more sense as town being honest than it does from any mafia perspective where it is significantly more beneficial to take the credit.

you say he tried to last minute derail a vote off of confirmed mafia, when you did the same thing.

i find that evidence lacking when put next to "lynched mafia yesterday".


I have been losing my mind trying to say this the past few days but they won't listen. Ruxxar ignores posts and tries to fit everything into his narrative, even if that narrative dosen't fit with reality. He is tunneling me stupidly hard right now.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 05 2017 18:35 GMT
#1046
On November 06 2017 03:26 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Also Ruxxar and Conversion, I want to hear why all the arguments you made against me also don't apply to Conversion? His vote switch is even scummier because there was no accidental voting there, he wanted to vote against Ruxxar which would have saved TT. I asked him about it and this:

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 07:22 Conversion wrote:
On November 03 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Wow, okay. That was super good for us but I have to be honest, my vote on tick was just a mistake. I can't take credit for it at all since I originally just wanted to vote shock. But in case you guys didn't notice, CONVERSION JUST TRIED TO SAVE TICKTOCK THE MAFIA!


why would I switch onto ruxx literal seconds and risk not getting my vote counted (which happened exactly) if I was trying to save my scum partner? wtf?


Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 07:25 Conversion wrote:
especially since TT flipped godfather.. why would I even risk him getting remotely closed to lynched and not vote earlier and push ruxxar hard?


I was the one that asked this and the reason I had no follow up is because what Conversion said here makes sense. And the same way it can used as an argument for me. What dosen't make sense is why Conversion now suddenly is pushing me for something that basically he also did.


? I voted you because you forever to give me one more thing to my question. also why would I scumread myself lol.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 05 2017 18:41 GMT
#1047
who do I sheep before deadline
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 05 2017 18:51 GMT
#1048
On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"


At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch. Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible.


This seems very honest.
I think I believe you.

Unvoting.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 05 2017 18:51 GMT
#1049
On November 05 2017 03:46 ritoky wrote:
i mean really the only alignments that interest me are ruxxars and zen's tbh. seems like i subbed into a pretty favorable game state.

the worlds are ruxx + 1, zen +1, or basically auto with 6 conf town.

4/4 split lynching mafia means likely pure wagon. vigi shoots from outside the wagon is 5th conf town. i am 6th.


like if the worlds are ever ruxx + 1 and zen + 1 in your head, why do you go away after trying to shut down an on wagon lynch? who are you even gonna lynch today? oats?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2017 18:59 GMT
#1050
i am not going to lynch anyone who lynched mafia yesterday cuz i am not an idiot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 05 2017 19:00 GMT
#1051
that answered my question. really proved that you're not an idiot
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 05 2017 19:01 GMT
#1052
On November 06 2017 03:59 ritoky wrote:
i am not going to lynch anyone who lynched mafia yesterday cuz i am not an idiot.


Why is your world rux+1 or zen+1 when you’re saying you’re not gonna lynch people that lynched mafia?...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2017 19:05 GMT
#1053
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.

the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.

elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2017 19:12 GMT
#1054
i wish i had been mafia in the past with any of the people i am considering lynching, so i could nk wifom who doesn't procedurally understand that you need to shoot on the wagon last night to maximize your lynch pool.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 05 2017 19:15 GMT
#1055
On November 06 2017 04:12 ritoky wrote:
i wish i had been mafia in the past with any of the people i am considering lynching, so i could nk wifom who doesn't procedurally understand that you need to shoot on the wagon last night to maximize your lynch pool.


What does that tell you about the mafia team?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2017 19:19 GMT
#1056
On November 06 2017 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
oh boy an oats lynch, I can already smell the victory

Totally doesn't help that zen jumped on the counter wagon
No gg, No skill.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 05 2017 19:20 GMT
#1057
On November 06 2017 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 04:12 ritoky wrote:
i wish i had been mafia in the past with any of the people i am considering lynching, so i could nk wifom who doesn't procedurally understand that you need to shoot on the wagon last night to maximize your lynch pool.


What does that tell you about the mafia team?


that it lacks a controlling vet player who believes strongly in mechanics in terms of choosing nks.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2017 19:22 GMT
#1058
On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.

the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.

elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.

There were no alternatives for rux that was reasonable. The only reason why you guys though that his 180 on TT was believable was because TT was mafia.

If he 180ed on to a town!shockey, he staight up dies today.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2017 19:22 GMT
#1059
On November 06 2017 04:20 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
On November 06 2017 04:12 ritoky wrote:
i wish i had been mafia in the past with any of the people i am considering lynching, so i could nk wifom who doesn't procedurally understand that you need to shoot on the wagon last night to maximize your lynch pool.


What does that tell you about the mafia team?


that it lacks a controlling vet player who believes strongly in mechanics in terms of choosing nks.

Guys pls the last game my nightkills were perfect. Why would I screw it up this game
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2017 19:23 GMT
#1060
Btw ritoky could totally be mafia
No gg, No skill.
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